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SocialDemocrat61

(6,420 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:28 PM Sunday

Abigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown

Abigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown
The Democratic Virginia governor-elect said both parties should vote to open the government even if there's no deal to extend health care subsidies.
By Alexandra Marquez and Katie Taylor

Virginia Gov.-elect Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat, said Sunday that Democrats in the Senate should join a majority of Senate Republicans to vote to reopen the government, regardless of whether both sides reach a deal on extending Affordable Care Act subsidies.

“The government needs to open and it needs to open immediately. We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together, endeavoring to get through whatever negotiations need to get through, whether it’s before or after,” Spanberger told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

She added that her priority as the incoming governor of Virginia is “focusing on the needs and the devastation, frankly, that more than 300,000 Virginians are facing.”

Asked whether congressional Democrats should view Democratic victories last week as a sign that voters support their push to keep the government closed until they reach a deal on ACA subsidies, Spanberger said, “Absolutely not.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/abigail-spanberger-democrats-election-shutdown-healthcare-virginia-rcna242859
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Abigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Sunday OP
Isn't this ball in the Republican's court? Blue Owl Sunday #1
I simply do NOT agree with her on this point johnnyfins Sunday #2
And I had such high hopes for her. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #3
They always fool us. Irish_Dem Sunday #16
A little soon to be working dweller Sunday #4
Governors only serve 1 term in Virginia nt Bookreadingliberal53 Sunday #12
In this case dweller Sunday #32
"We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together" ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #5
Him demonstrating leadership BlueKota Sunday #45
Virginia has over 100,000 federal employees. RandySF Sunday #6
And 388,000 with ACA marketplace plans. ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #18
And 827,800 SNAP recipients krawhitham Sunday #36
Do you think it's the Democrats that are holding SNAP hostage? ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #37
Hostage, no. krawhitham Sunday #41
So you think Democrats are to blame? ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #43
Right? That's what I was thinking of.. Gov Cha Sunday #19
And yet, the vast majority of Virginians, including those Fed. employees, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #21
Except she isn't Mamdani, two different electorates EdmondDantes_ Sunday #34
Yeah, I know she's not like Mamdani, that's not the comparison I made, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #35
She is going to be Governor Of Virginia JI7 Sunday #7
If Obamacare dies won't many fired Va fed employees bronxiteforever Sunday #8
Did she run as a centrist dem? Emile Sunday #9
Yes. And won by double digits. nt SunSeeker Sunday #28
So that's the future of our party? Emile Sunday #29
She represents a large and crucial set of Democrats who will get us back in the White House and save our country. SunSeeker Sunday #44
NO. Send her back . She's another sellout Bread and Circuses Sunday #10
We have no power. At this point, we need to call it a day and claim VICTORY Wanderlust988 Sunday #11
Victory when millions are cut off from healthcare? ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #14
So it was the Democrats that caused this all along? That's what you're saying. dem4decades Sunday #15
We did put the end to the subsidies to be now because we wanted to pass them via budget reconciliation. EdmondDantes_ Sunday #39
I really wish we still had the UnRec. function, but in light of the fact that we don't, this will suffice. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #17
I hate to say it SheLiberal Sunday #20
Why would it be enough? ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #24
So it's okay to compromise on the lives of those on the ACA? LearnedHand Sunday #25
It's not okay, but it makes sense leftstreet Sunday #42
.... MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #26
I take it you are not on the ACA? Emile Sunday #27
No SheLiberal Sunday #33
Good God. Irish_Dem Sunday #13
335,255 Virginians receive subsidized healthcare insurance via an ACA plan. ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #22
Could she be another moderate that we'll eat at some point. Silent Type Sunday #23
Apparently we already do question everything Sunday #30
Better to "eat" a politician than let millions die without healthcare. ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #38
This is not a good day to be a Democrat EnergizedLib Sunday #31
Of course she says this. She runs a state with a high percentage of gov contractors! Mr.WeRP Sunday #40

johnnyfins

(3,235 posts)
2. I simply do NOT agree with her on this point
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:32 PM
Sunday

There is no "good faith" when negotiating with these MAGAS.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,135 posts)
5. "We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:33 PM
Sunday

Good luck with that, Governor.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,135 posts)
18. And 388,000 with ACA marketplace plans.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:42 PM
Sunday

335, 255 receive ACA subsidies, but I guess they don't matter.

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ForgoTheConsequence

(5,135 posts)
37. Do you think it's the Democrats that are holding SNAP hostage?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:12 PM
Sunday

Do you trust the Republicans who are keeping SNAP money hostage right now to keep their promises?

krawhitham

(5,044 posts)
41. Hostage, no.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sunday

If you can stop a bad thing and don't, you are not BLAME FREE. This is not a zero sum game, people will starve, the GOP is good with that. Are you?

This stop gap is only til January (2 months), by which time the SNAP appeal will be won and you can start the whole shutdown over with a lot more staying power

Cha

(315,774 posts)
19. Right? That's what I was thinking of.. Gov
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:43 PM
Sunday

Spanberger is looking out for her Constituents, who Voted her into Office.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
21. And yet, the vast majority of Virginians, including those Fed. employees,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:45 PM
Sunday

voted for her, so it seems that VA. is like NYC when it came to voting on Tues.

EdmondDantes_

(1,142 posts)
34. Except she isn't Mamdani, two different electorates
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:03 PM
Sunday

Would you have said that just because they both won elections in 2012 that Elizabeth Warren's Massachusetts voters were the same as Joe Manchin's voters in West Virginia? Because that's obviously not true.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
35. Yeah, I know she's not like Mamdani, that's not the comparison I made,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:06 PM
Sunday

I said that judging by the margins of victory between NYC and VA, then it was comparable.

bronxiteforever

(10,952 posts)
8. If Obamacare dies won't many fired Va fed employees
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sunday

lose their opportunity to get insurance? I guess COBRA but good luck making those payments with no job.
Hopefully the Va Governor can cover those fired employees with a state health insurance program.

SunSeeker

(57,216 posts)
44. She represents a large and crucial set of Democrats who will get us back in the White House and save our country.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:40 PM
Sunday

God help us if we walk away from this coalition.

Wanderlust988

(691 posts)
11. We have no power. At this point, we need to call it a day and claim VICTORY
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:36 PM
Sunday

We brought about intense media coverage on subsidies and SNAP. Before, you didn't hear a peep about it. Now, when those price hikes hit, they will blame Trump. Also, not getting SNAP is a big deal. The people on DU saying it's a cave don't worry about their food. People need to eat. This shutdown can't go on forever. It's about humanity, irrespective of Trump.

EdmondDantes_

(1,142 posts)
39. We did put the end to the subsidies to be now because we wanted to pass them via budget reconciliation.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sunday

So we are absolutely the cause of these subsidies expiring now because we were keeping the Inflation Reduction Act budget neutral to pass it without Republicans. But these subsidies were said to be necessary because of covid. Extending them indefinitely because healthcare costs have skyrocketed is an entirely different argument for why the subsidies are needed and frankly don't do anything to address the cost of healthcare being unsustainable.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
17. I really wish we still had the UnRec. function, but in light of the fact that we don't, this will suffice.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:41 PM
Sunday

SheLiberal

(78 posts)
20. I hate to say it
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:44 PM
Sunday

But I have to agree, I would love to stand on principle but if the Republicans will not compromise at all we have little choice and the government can not stay closed forever. We are dealing with sociopaths and there is a limit to how much pain Democrats are willing to put the people through. The question I have will losing the ACA be enough for people to vote in the midterms?

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,135 posts)
24. Why would it be enough?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:51 PM
Sunday

If the Democrats fail to protect it this time, why would they be trusted again?

LearnedHand

(5,133 posts)
25. So it's okay to compromise on the lives of those on the ACA?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:52 PM
Sunday

Do we even have a red line anymore?

leftstreet

(38,208 posts)
42. It's not okay, but it makes sense
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sunday

Most Americans don't get their coverage through the ACA

(roughly)
Employer - 165 million
Medicare - 70 million
Medicaid - 77 million
ACA - 24 million

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
26. ....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:54 PM
Sunday
The question I have will losing the ACA be enough for people to vote in the midterms?


If the Dems cave on this, then we will get our asses kicked in 2026 and 2028, why would we come out to vote after a betrayal like this if it's true?
All this will just prove that Dems don't stand on principles and will blame us for caving to the repigs.

SheLiberal

(78 posts)
33. No
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:02 PM
Sunday

But I have family members that used it and we were all very grateful for the ACA. I wish we had Medicare for all but I don’t see how we can get there with the current state of this country.

Maybe I am just too discouraged by the current government.

EnergizedLib

(2,895 posts)
31. This is not a good day to be a Democrat
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:00 PM
Sunday

I might show up to the polls next year, but it won’t be to vote for Democrats. It will only be to vote against Republicans.

I’d rather drown in my own blood than vote Republican, but if Democrats wanted to depress and deflate my enthusiasm, they did so flawlessly.

And I highly doubt I’m the only one who feels this way.

Mr.WeRP

(1,050 posts)
40. Of course she says this. She runs a state with a high percentage of gov contractors!
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sunday

This doesn’t mean dems should cave! People’s lives are on the line. Fight for them!

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