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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAbigail Spanberger says Democrats' election wins aren't a green light to extend shutdown
The Democratic Virginia governor-elect said both parties should vote to open the government even if there's no deal to extend health care subsidies.
By Alexandra Marquez and Katie Taylor
Virginia Gov.-elect Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat, said Sunday that Democrats in the Senate should join a majority of Senate Republicans to vote to reopen the government, regardless of whether both sides reach a deal on extending Affordable Care Act subsidies.
The government needs to open and it needs to open immediately. We need the president to demonstrate leadership, bringing people together, endeavoring to get through whatever negotiations need to get through, whether its before or after, Spanberger told CBS Face the Nation on Sunday.
She added that her priority as the incoming governor of Virginia is focusing on the needs and the devastation, frankly, that more than 300,000 Virginians are facing.
Asked whether congressional Democrats should view Democratic victories last week as a sign that voters support their push to keep the government closed until they reach a deal on ACA subsidies, Spanberger said, Absolutely not.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/abigail-spanberger-democrats-election-shutdown-healthcare-virginia-rcna242859
Blue Owl
(57,890 posts)johnnyfins
(3,235 posts)There is no "good faith" when negotiating with these MAGAS.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)Irish_Dem
(77,800 posts)dweller
(27,572 posts)On your 2nd term reelection bid , isnt it ?
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Bookreadingliberal53
(122 posts)dweller
(27,572 posts)That checks
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ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)Good luck with that, Governor.
BlueKota
(4,883 posts)will happen when hell freezes over.
RandySF
(79,647 posts)Again, Virginia is not NYC.
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)335, 255 receive ACA subsidies, but I guess they don't matter.
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krawhitham
(5,044 posts)827,800 SNAP recipients, but I guess they don't matter.

https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-people-receive-snap-benefits-in-the-us-every-month/state/virginia/
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)Do you trust the Republicans who are keeping SNAP money hostage right now to keep their promises?
krawhitham
(5,044 posts)If you can stop a bad thing and don't, you are not BLAME FREE. This is not a zero sum game, people will starve, the GOP is good with that. Are you?
This stop gap is only til January (2 months), by which time the SNAP appeal will be won and you can start the whole shutdown over with a lot more staying power
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)Interesting take.
Cha
(315,774 posts)Spanberger is looking out for her Constituents, who Voted her into Office.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)voted for her, so it seems that VA. is like NYC when it came to voting on Tues.
EdmondDantes_
(1,142 posts)Would you have said that just because they both won elections in 2012 that Elizabeth Warren's Massachusetts voters were the same as Joe Manchin's voters in West Virginia? Because that's obviously not true.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)I said that judging by the margins of victory between NYC and VA, then it was comparable.
JI7
(92,944 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,952 posts)lose their opportunity to get insurance? I guess COBRA but good luck making those payments with no job.
Hopefully the Va Governor can cover those fired employees with a state health insurance program.
Emile
(39,090 posts)SunSeeker
(57,216 posts)Emile
(39,090 posts)God help us!
SunSeeker
(57,216 posts)God help us if we walk away from this coalition.
Bread and Circuses
(1,367 posts)Wanderlust988
(691 posts)We brought about intense media coverage on subsidies and SNAP. Before, you didn't hear a peep about it. Now, when those price hikes hit, they will blame Trump. Also, not getting SNAP is a big deal. The people on DU saying it's a cave don't worry about their food. People need to eat. This shutdown can't go on forever. It's about humanity, irrespective of Trump.
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)That isn't a fucking "victory".
dem4decades
(13,390 posts)EdmondDantes_
(1,142 posts)So we are absolutely the cause of these subsidies expiring now because we were keeping the Inflation Reduction Act budget neutral to pass it without Republicans. But these subsidies were said to be necessary because of covid. Extending them indefinitely because healthcare costs have skyrocketed is an entirely different argument for why the subsidies are needed and frankly don't do anything to address the cost of healthcare being unsustainable.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)SheLiberal
(78 posts)But I have to agree, I would love to stand on principle but if the Republicans will not compromise at all we have little choice and the government can not stay closed forever. We are dealing with sociopaths and there is a limit to how much pain Democrats are willing to put the people through. The question I have will losing the ACA be enough for people to vote in the midterms?
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)If the Democrats fail to protect it this time, why would they be trusted again?
LearnedHand
(5,133 posts)Do we even have a red line anymore?
leftstreet
(38,208 posts)Most Americans don't get their coverage through the ACA
(roughly)
Employer - 165 million
Medicare - 70 million
Medicaid - 77 million
ACA - 24 million
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)If the Dems cave on this, then we will get our asses kicked in 2026 and 2028, why would we come out to vote after a betrayal like this if it's true?
All this will just prove that Dems don't stand on principles and will blame us for caving to the repigs.
Emile
(39,090 posts)But I have family members that used it and we were all very grateful for the ACA. I wish we had Medicare for all but I dont see how we can get there with the current state of this country.
Maybe I am just too discouraged by the current government.
Irish_Dem
(77,800 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)They were all just thrown under the bus.
https://acasignups.net/tags/virginia#:~:text=How%20much%20more%20will%20VIRGINIA,ACA%20subsidies%20expire?%20

Silent Type
(11,959 posts)question everything
(51,378 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,895 posts)I might show up to the polls next year, but it wont be to vote for Democrats. It will only be to vote against Republicans.
Id rather drown in my own blood than vote Republican, but if Democrats wanted to depress and deflate my enthusiasm, they did so flawlessly.
And I highly doubt Im the only one who feels this way.
Mr.WeRP
(1,050 posts)This doesnt mean dems should cave! Peoples lives are on the line. Fight for them!