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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, if this "deal" is approved by the Senate doesn't the House have to vote on it?
That would mean calling the House back into session and gaining the 218th signature on the Epstein petition, no?
lostincalifornia
(4,832 posts)Lovie777
(21,088 posts)lapucelle
(20,864 posts)Folks, we need to have a little Civics #101 chat, because apparently the media no longer seems fit to explain to you whats happening.
— STEMthebleeding (@stemthebleeding.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:32:26.566Z
So quick review:
The House passed a clean CR.
The senate has not passed anything.
The ONLY way this "deal" (taken with several grains of salt) ends the shutdown is if it's identical to the house version.
— STEMthebleeding (@stemthebleeding.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:32:26.567Z
The alleged "cave" by the GOP staff regurgitators at Axios is nowhere close to the house bill.
Which means it forces Johnson to convene the house to vote on it.
This means among other things, that our awaiting reps can be seated.
— STEMthebleeding (@stemthebleeding.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:32:26.568Z
But it also means that Senate Republicans betrayed Trump.
He wants them to pass the clean CR by nuclear option because he wrongly thinks he'll be able to end mail in voting.
But regardless, it means the Senate betrayed him.
So what happens?
— STEMthebleeding (@stemthebleeding.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:32:26.569Z
Well, the likelihood of the House GOP passing this bill is between 0 and absolute 0. It would be seen as a betrayal by THEIR base.
But it does mean that Dems get the 218th discharge vote for the Epstein files.
It also means that Dems can filibuster the NEXT House bill.
Raven123
(7,300 posts)It adds money to Trump's priority- deporting immigrants.
markodochartaigh
(4,617 posts)it deserves its own post.
Javaman
(64,881 posts)The orange asshole has commanded him to keep it closed, never swear in the new Dem and better make sure the Epstein vote either goes away or he better make sure its guaranteed its bound to fail if the reopen.
So the long and short of it is; it aint opening back up
Nictuku
(4,461 posts)I've been away from media all day. It sounds like a senate deal is underway. I turned to C-SPAN 1 and 2 and Zilch. Other programming.
I googled (er, duckduckduckGo'ed_ and have not seen anything relevant to this happening now.)
OK, as I was writing this, I found a CNN article that required me to sign up or something (really CNN? Something SO IMPORTANT to the Country?) Maybe all they wanted was my email address, but even that is too much (besides, they get it already just by visiting the website) I digress.
This is what I was able to find, from The Hill:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5597679-senate-funding-measure-shutdown-end/
Politico:
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/09/congress/prewrite-congress-finalizes-3-bill-funding-package-to-sweeten-shutdown-endgame-00643762
Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/shutdown-congress-republicans-democrats-deal-b2861825.html
pat_k
(12,436 posts)pat_k
(12,436 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:50 PM - Edit history (2)
From The Guardian
From WaPo
The minibus appropriations package consists of three bills to fund military construction, veterans affairs, the Department of Agriculture and the legislative branch through fiscal 2026.
Sounds like the main drivers of the minibus negotiations from the Democrats side (negotiations that have been going on for some time) are Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.) and Maggie Hassan (N.H.) and perhaps other ranking members of the relevant committees.
Jeanne Shaheen is the Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. the Ranking Member of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense and the Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs
Senator Maggie Hassan is the ranking member of the Joint Economic Committee and the Subcommittee on Health Care of the Senate Finance Committee.
Some are reporting that the minibus package does not include some of the cuts that were in HR-1 (MAGA Murder Budget). Text has been released, but I can't find specifics of what the Republicans have agreed to jettison or scale back on. Who knows? Maybe they quietly jettisoned the cuts to SNAP in the USDA bill and aren't being noisy about it because they don't want a bruhaha about it from the felon and he'd be clueless if fox doesn't report it.
Others reportedly in on the negotiations, some of which are likely to be Yes votes tonight (if there ever is a vote tonight): Sens. Jacky Rosen (Nev.), Tammy Baldwin (Wis.), Mark Kelly (Ariz.), Jon Ossoff (Ga.), Gary Peters (Mich.) and Dick Durbin (Ill.)
Apparently, whatever wins they got into the minibus are enough for the necessary handful of Democrats to accept Thune's "handshake" agreement to put a bill on extending the ACA subsides to a vote in the Senate in December. That doesn't actually matter much. Johnson says he won't put ACA subsidies to a House vote, but he's getting pressure from his own people, so if Thune comes through and an ACA extension does pass the Senate in December, he will be hard pressed to keep it from going to the House floor.
On edit: Bit from NBC:
If it passes, it would then head to the House, which has been on recess since September. And it is not clear that the deal has the support of House Democrats.
Rand Paul has already said he would drag it out if the agriculture part of the minibus doesn't give him what he wants on hemp for his state.
Nictuku
(4,461 posts)Thank you so much for setting everything out so clearly in this firehose of information. I REALLY appreciate it.
Lovie777
(21,088 posts)Democrats in my opinion kinda sorta made the Republicans stink. All of this bullshit because they did not want to extend the ACA subsides.