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Democrat caving to the Repig criminals.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,447 posts)It made me give up hope quite a while ago.
leftstreet
(38,208 posts)OneGrassRoot
(23,906 posts)where he said something to the effect how will Dems squander this amazing victory - and of course 98% of the comments were basically fuck him, hes dead to me - is all I can think about. It took a mere few days.
FHRRK
(1,302 posts)Like the Garland defenders, you will at least know who you are dealing with.
True Dough
(25,116 posts)Let's see those "Stewart is a turncoat" types defend their misdirected anger at a man who is a longtime ally to the Dems -- his only "crime" being that he just happens to voice his valid criticism.
Bettie
(19,116 posts)for the first time since the election.
Now? We're utterly fucked.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)
fucked us and didn't even use lotion.
He may have voted no, but make no mistake, he already knew he had the votes to pass this CR, so he could confidently vote no knowing that his vote would not count.
Time for Chucky to retire and let someone who's in tune with the American people to take the reins and fight for the principles of this country.
flashman13
(1,755 posts)applegrove
(129,257 posts)and backed Democrats while they were doing that over-the-top. So healthcare is the issue of our times.
Arazi
(8,547 posts)Justifiably so.
Arazi
(8,547 posts)If they werent going to fight til the end, theyve caused weeks of anguish and hardship for nothing.
Im furious and disgusted at them now for the shutdown and Im a hardcore Dem.
applegrove
(129,257 posts)of food and healthcare for Americans. Do you really think anyone thinks the MAGA Republicans gained on either of those two issues?
Arazi
(8,547 posts)Many federal workers, soldiers and their families have been in food lines for weeks. For nothing.
And this is literally the death knell of the ACA.
Millions of people will leave the marketplace effectively destroying it. The only way the ACA works is if theres a large pool of people participating.
CountMyVote4Reality
(287 posts)bc the Democratic opposition leadership will cave every time. FOR WHAT?
Happy Holidays, Suckers! Even more goes away on 1/30/2026.
Onama Biden Man
(37 posts)These 8 senate democrats literally just killed the ACA.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)That is all.
Arazi
(8,547 posts)The reasons for doing the shutdown are contradictory and nonsensical in light of the capitulation; claiming they won something on health care when they didn't; saying they won things that were already law.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)I truly thought that we had the momentum and high road, only to get screwed by our fellow Dem Senators.
Maru Kitteh
(31,000 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)Why, as a loyal progressive Democrat, should I vote if my Party constantly kowtows to the repigs when the going gets tough?
I suspect that a lot of Dems are questioning why we support only to get fucked in the end.
FHRRK
(1,302 posts)Wonder what the payout is to screw over your own party.
Maru Kitteh
(31,000 posts)fujiyamasan
(948 posts)Didnt even last a week.
And with that, all excitement for 2026 is deflated. Good luck to the leadership telling the base theyre fighting Trump. Trump can claim to be the best and toughest negotiator.
Easy to claim when the likes of Schumer are your opponent. Lol
AverageOldGuy
(3,152 posts)Senate Democrats are caving on the shutdown.
The broad framework for agreement, which was negotiated in part by Sens. Angus King, Jeanne Shaheen, and Maggie Hassan, as well as GOP senators, has more than enough members of the Senate Democratic Caucus to advance, according to two people granted anonymity to disclose the terms, Politico reported.
In exchange for their votes, these handful of moderate Democratswhich notably does not include Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumerare getting nothing.
Well, thats not true.
Theyre getting a promise of a vote on ACA subsidies in the Senate, which will easily go down in defeat. Not to mention, Speaker Mike Johnson has said hell never even bring the matter up for a vote in the House.
LuvLoogie
(8,404 posts)to a criminal, racist regime.
For donor largess and 4 hour K Street lunches.
JHB
(37,865 posts)yliza
(195 posts)Thats what he has over us, his willingness to let others suffer and die to get what he wants. Im not happy about the deal, but Im not a parent who is wondering how Im going to feed my kids if the orange shitstain doesnt release the hold on SNAP benefits. Im pretty pissed off, but what Im mostly pissed about is that it came to this. The entire republican caucus, including Moses Mike, is willing to put people in existential danger just to force their agenda.
This is actually the messaging that dems need to go with, loud and clear. Trump was going to let Americans starve, he didnt care. Dems took a black eye so that Americans could put food on the table.
C_U_L8R
(48,521 posts)and hope they prove us wrong on that.
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