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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUnofficial Tally as of 7:15 PM Yea 59 Nay 40. Thune clearly got his 8 Democratic Yeas
Thune reportedly wanted eight yes Democratic votes
With a total of 40 Nays
38 of 45 Democrats
Bernie
Rand Paul
I am guessing the hold out Republican vote is Rand Paul, who said he would drag out the vote until the agriculture part of the minibus gave him what he wants on hemp.
Missing vote is Cornyn
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Motion to Invoke Cloture on H.R.5371 (House CR)
Unofficial Tally 7:15 PM PST
Yea 59
Nay 40
Stargleamer
(2,561 posts)pat_k
(12,436 posts)Rand voted No.
pat_k
(12,436 posts)With Rand the 40 must be:
38 of 47 45 Dems
Rand Paul
Bernie Sanders
I don't know why, but that feels a lot worse than the difference of one vote should.
There are 53 Republicans. Rand voted No. Counting Cornyn, 52 will vote Yes. 8 Dems will also vote Yes. That's the 60.
pat_k
(12,436 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,047 posts)But the little fucker will fold after he gets what he wants.
Polybius
(21,156 posts)Rand was always a No. In fact, he voted No the last time too.
eppur_se_muova
(40,530 posts)pat_k
(12,436 posts)It was unclear to me if Thune just wanted promises of eight Democratic yes on cloture only, or on the minibus package, extension to Jan 30, and whatever other amendments are in his "deal."
In any case, there is no guarantee he'll hold together the Senate Republican conference.
eppur_se_muova
(40,530 posts)Polybius
(21,156 posts)This is the filibuster. The next vote will just require 50.
eppur_se_muova
(40,530 posts)Polybius
(21,156 posts)To break a filibuster and get out of closure, 60 is needed. Once it's broken, the next vote will take 50 votes to pass.
eppur_se_muova
(40,530 posts)This year, it's hard to know when you're double-thinking enough.
Polybius
(21,156 posts)Before Cornyn arrives, can any of those 8 Dems change their minds and vote No?
Polybius
(21,156 posts)It's almost certain to achieve that.
Polybius
(21,156 posts)51 voted Yes. One is on his way (John Cornyn) and will vote Yes. Rand Paul voted No. 8 Democrats voted Yes. That's the 60.