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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Schumer and Durbin both resign their Senate leadership positions immediately (but not resign from the Senate)?
I think both have failed the party by allowing the shutdown to end with absolutely no concessions from Republicans.
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Amaryllis
(10,829 posts)usonian
(22,371 posts)FHRRK
(1,302 posts)So I voted yes, but really think they should be pushed to resign immediately.
Silent Type
(11,959 posts)etc., is good news. Wish it had worked differently, but hey . . . .
pat_k
(12,436 posts)Jeanne Shaheen and Dick Durbin are no slouches.
Yes. I believed that if we kept hammering Republicans on how unreasonable they were being -- particularly the rejection of Schumer's incredibly reasonable compromise to have a "win win" of extending the ACA subsidies for a single year to provide time to negotiate further after the government is reopened.
How reasonable that proposal was, and how unreasonable Thune's gang was being, had barely had a chance to sink in. I figured within a week the Republicans were likely to cave because they REALLY didn't like the thought of people hating on them over Thanksgiving Dinner.
But I could be wrong.
And the thing is, all along, there WERE negotiations going on -- negotiations on actual appropriations bills. Almost like a functional Congress does as a matter of course.
The thing is, the funding cuts in the MAGA Murder Budget are meaningless until they are actually implemented in an appropriation bill. I expect the negotiated bills mitigate some of those harms.
For example, the MAGA Murder Budget cut SNAP by something like 20 billion a year for the next 10 years. The Agriculture appropriations bill negotiated as part of the deal to end the shutdown fully funds SNAP at current levels through fiscal 2026.
I think we'll be hearing about a number of other "wins" for Democrats in the minibus appropriations bills
And, in addition to any concessions in those bills, we may yet get an extension of the ACA subsidies. This stand off has raised public awareness and anger about the catastrophic ACA premium increases. It's possible, perhaps even likely, that enough Republicans decide they are more afraid of their voters than trump.
Plus, the felon exposed himself as the Grinch who literally went to the Supreme Court to steal Christmas.
All in all, I don't think we are in such a bad place. Time will tell.
Trueblue1968
(18,946 posts)John Coktosten
(82 posts)Just reported that Schumer is voting NO other deal. I'm still stunned.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)he knew his no vote was inconsequential ahead of time, he, and I'm just speculating here, thought that he would be protected from the fallout of this betrayal, well, as the plaque on Pres. Harry S. Truman's desk said, "The Buck Stops Here".
AFAIC, he gave the green light for this betrayal of Dems who fought like hell and won this last Tuesday's elections by wide margins to give the Democratic Party the momentum to take back the House and possibly the Senate in 2026, but after this crap, IMHO, this is going to depress Democrat voters because why should they come out to vote when time after time after time after time after time, our Rep. and Sen. cave?
I'll still religiously vote for my Dem Rep and Sen., but how many other Dems are now going to say "fuck it, why vote when it doesn't matter because the Dems are going to cave every fucking time?
Ok, that's my tipsy rant for the night.
Good night.
RainCaster
(13,315 posts)This limp dick vote will certainly depress the vote next year. We finally had a small amount of power and Schumer gave it all away for nothing.
John Coktosten
(82 posts)Totally agree.
I don't live in Virginia now but I am from there, lived my first 25 years there. Am embarrassed and ASHAMED to have that pussy Kaine as a Senator right now.
fujiyamasan
(948 posts)Just warm bodies collecting paychecks at this point.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(130,849 posts)Durbin voted to end the shutdown. Schumer did not.
RainCaster
(13,315 posts)He owns it
"The buck stops here"
Midwestern Democrat
(1,012 posts)JCMach1
(29,046 posts)This was a betrayal of the worst kind.
tritsofme
(19,727 posts)I havent seen a single one modify that support.