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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,849 posts) Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:51 AM Monday

In SNAP appeal, Trump admin says it faces more harm than those without food: ANALYSIS

There is a paragraph on page 22 of the Trump administration's appeal of a federal judge's requirement that it make full November SNAP payments that has to be seen to be believed.

The opening sentence asserts that "the district court's order threatens significant and irreparable harm to the government which outweighs any claimed injury to plaintiffs."

In plain English, the Justice Department is telling the court that it would hurt the federal government more to comply with a judge's order requiring full food stamp payments than it would hurt millions of low-income Americans to potentially starve.

Let's simplify this further: the government is arguing that once the money is spent, it can't be unspent (and that would be horrible). But the hungry can't eat tomorrow (and that's not as bad). That is the contention.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/snap-appeal-trump-admin-says-210717464.html

Trumpian logic.

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In SNAP appeal, Trump admin says it faces more harm than those without food: ANALYSIS (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday OP

Once the government reopens this may be determined moot. Raven123 Monday #1

The absurdity of their arguments know no bounds pat_k Monday #2

Ballroms and bombs, yes, babies no. niyad Monday #3

They seem to assume... 2naSalit Monday #4

Raven123

(7,300 posts)

1. Once the government reopens this may be determined moot.

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:15 AM

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pat_k

(12,436 posts)

2. The absurdity of their arguments know no bounds

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:04 AM

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Consider:

- The current balance of Section 32 is reported to be 23 billion.

- Funding Food Nutrition Service (FNS) Child Nutrition Programs is a key purpose for the Section 32 fund.

- 39% of SNAP recipients are children. That makes it a child nutrition program as important as WIC and school lunch programs.

- WIC costs 600 million per month.

- SNAP costs 8 billion.

- The balance of the SNAP contingency fund is reported to be at least 5 billion, leaving 3 billion to be made up from Section 32.

- Section 32 is funded by 30% of customs duties from the prior year. Hasn't Trump been telling us that they've collected trillions in tariffs? Even if reality is closer to 100 billion, that means come 1/1/2025, the Section 32 fund is getting a deposit of about 30 billion that is COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF APPROPRIATIONS.

Even if SNAP and WIC had needed to be fully funded from Section 32 funds for both November AND December, the balance in Section 32 is only reduced to somewhere around 10.8 billion -- and will be replenished with 30% of tariffs collected in 2024, completely independent of the budget appropriations process.

3 billion SNAP Nov
8 billion SNAP Dec
O.6 billion WIC Nov
0.6 billion WIC Dec
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12.2 billion total

Their claims of some unacceptable risk or needing the money for WIC or some disaster are nonsense. Utter nonsense.

niyad

(128,431 posts)

3. Ballroms and bombs, yes, babies no.

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:19 AM

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2naSalit

(98,844 posts)

4. They seem to assume...

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:56 AM

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That this money in the treasury belongs to them and their bank accounts. Sure, that's what they want to end up with but we are the owners of those funds. Never forget that, it's taxpayer money meaning, it's our money and that's that.

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