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spanone

(140,655 posts) Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:40 AM Monday

trmp has pardoned Rudy Giuliani and the rest of the 2020 traitors

The corruption never ends
— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T04:54:12.779Z

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trmp has pardoned Rudy Giuliani and the rest of the 2020 traitors (Original Post) spanone Monday OP

Always remember: Hieronymus Phact Monday #1

It also means you can testify under oath and NOT plead the 5th. Volaris Monday #2

This is an old myth. A pardon is an act of grace, not an admission of guilt. tritsofme Monday #3

Fauci and miley weren't charged with anything so theres no guilt to be had there. Hieronymus Phact Monday #4

Hieronymus Phact

(691 posts)

1. Always remember:

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:07 AM

Monday

A pardon means you accept the guilt.
They are GUILTY of these crimes by their own admission.

Volaris

(11,265 posts)

2. It also means you can testify under oath and NOT plead the 5th.

Reply to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:33 AM

Monday

tritsofme

(19,727 posts)

3. This is an old myth. A pardon is an act of grace, not an admission of guilt.

Reply to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:39 AM

Monday

Trump obviously bastardizes this process.

But Dr. Fauci and General Milley were certainly not guilty of any crime in receiving a pardon from President Biden.

Hieronymus Phact

(691 posts)

4. Fauci and miley weren't charged with anything so theres no guilt to be had there.

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 09:58 AM

Monday

Case law is split on this, its not a "myth" its just a gray area of the law.

(from google) Supreme Court precedent:
In the 1915 case Burdick v. United States, the Supreme Court ruled that accepting a pardon is "an admission of guilt". This precedent has been cited in arguments that accepting a pardon implies guilt.

Other cases have different conclusions.

I think i can honestly still call these criminals out as guilty regardless.

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