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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Breaking *** SCOTUS Refuses To Hear Kim Davis's Case To Overturn Obergefell
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Lovie777
(21,088 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,482 posts)If we followed the letter of the Bible divorced people couldn't remarry and neither could people of different faiths.
2MuchNoise
(603 posts)Trueblue1968
(18,946 posts)valleyrogue
(2,463 posts)not relevant to her non-existent case.
Eventually, there will be a case that directly addresses same-sex marriage.
EdmondDantes_
(1,142 posts)FBaggins
(28,577 posts)The claims that SCOTUS was "considering" it were basically click bait.
As predicted - It was jut one of a long line of "cert denied"s without comment.
underpants
(193,868 posts)Arazi
(8,547 posts)Crumbs.
Were cheering that were getting crumbs.
So damn discouraging being in this place
speak easy
(12,502 posts)but I'm not sure Pete Buttigieg would agree that his marriage to Chasten is a crumb.
Arazi
(8,547 posts)The GOP will find a better case in the future but Obergefell was never in danger on this go around.
Im sure even Pete and Chasten recognized that
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)SCOTUS actually did something right.
AllaN01Bear
(27,996 posts)Rebl2
(17,204 posts)regarding this case, for now.
YodaMom2
(131 posts)But a less odious plaintiff and a more narrowly crafted and better case, and all bets are off.
fujiyamasan
(948 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Its that they didnt do something bad.
Thats what weve come to expect.
haele
(14,845 posts)If it was "They're forcing a church to host their wedding" situation, there might be some right to service issue the SCOTUS might hear, but a Government Office providing a general Government service doesn't (yet) have the right to deny that service based on an individual's belief.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,482 posts)Though in questioning I thought he got to the heart of the matter and I'm paraphrasing by asking if Joe can marry Jane why can't he marry Mike.
haele
(14,845 posts)Sort of like an LLC...so long as the people involved are not in a competing arrangement (already married), competent, not acting fraudulently, not under duress and are consenting adults, there's absolutely no reason why two households
A Religious marriage is just the marriage ceremony. Not necessarily the partnership. People can be married in a Church, but unless the state has a common-law marriage statute in which co-habitation for a long period of time can be considered legal, the official civil document is still the determining factor as to if the marriage is a legal contract in terms of tax or other spousal legal situations and benefits.
MineralMan
(150,208 posts)yellowcanine
(36,662 posts)A hateful multiple divorced woman who lectures about the sanctity of marriage. No thanks.
Borogove
(316 posts)UTUSN
(76,293 posts)AllaN01Bear
(27,996 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,188 posts)She's been irrelevant for some time. This cements that fact.
Emile
(39,090 posts)If anyone knows anything about being judgemental, the Supreme Court should know. LOL
EnergizedLib
(2,895 posts)Im still not really happy, and wont be at my own party, but after reading this, Im in a better mood to learn this wont be heard.
Celerity
(53,014 posts)Norrrm
(3,399 posts)Jesus said some significant things about divorce and adultery for second marriages.
Trump, Reagan, Gingrich, Giuliani?
Is Kim Davis continually committing adultery in her current marriage?
According to the teachings of Jesus.

PJMcK
(24,384 posts)SMDH
2MuchNoise
(603 posts)oasis
(53,175 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,482 posts)He also said if you marry an unbeliever you're unevenly yolked. Her opposition to not marrying gay couples was hypocritical.
Shrek
(4,369 posts)Upthevibe
(9,864 posts)Thanks for the post.
I'm not conspiracy theory kind of gal but I believe this lady, Kim Davis, is being paid and/or compesated.
2MuchNoise
(603 posts)Bluestocking
(392 posts)Her handlers certainly arent going to pay that for her. They are done with her. She has served her purpose.
TommyT139
(2,071 posts)...even if simply to avoid discouraging other potential plaintiffs from stepping up to cry fake tears in other cases the theocrats want to pursue.
AverageOldGuy
(3,152 posts). . . what's a poor ol' bigot to do? Does everyone understand that she has been married FOUR times --
1. first husband, divorce
2. second husband, divorce
3. first husband again, divorce
4. third husband, still married
Somewhere along the line she had twins and then one or two single births. One of her kids works for her in the County Clerk's office -- remember, this is Appalachia where the rule is "hire your kin."
Obergefell may not be safe because when the Not-So Supreme Court tossed Roe, Justice Thomas said they should take another look at Obergefell (same gender marriage); Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage); and Griswold v. Conn (legalized contraception).
The biblethumpers will come after Obergefell again. Attacks on Loving and Griswold are not out of the question.
Marthe48
(22,335 posts)Some of my friends are really happy
Orrex
(66,376 posts)I honestly figured it was a done deal.
malthaussen
(18,314 posts)Okay, apparently the case was really poorly crafted, but so what, really? Does anyone think this Court is going to rule on the merits of a case? Considering some of the rulings that they have handed down, I'm surprised they didn't take advantage of this opportunity to blow Obergefell out of the water and are apparently willing to wait for a better case. I wonder what was in Davis's suit that they couldn't, or wouldn't, swallow.
-- Mal
Initech
(106,872 posts)Please kindly go crawl back under the troll bridge you came from and never come back! And don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
no_hypocrisy
(53,744 posts)Initech
(106,872 posts)And then they don't pay anything back. These morons would be nothing if they didn't file frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit.
Crowman2009
(3,353 posts)Me and my wife frequently quote "I'm washed clean!" in her accent after taking a shower.
TBF
(35,278 posts)JCMach1
(29,046 posts)For both my bros and sisters.
And also knowing if Obergefell falls they come for Loving v. Next.
The fascists wont stop.
Ontheroad
(24 posts)So I don't anticipate this will be overturned. Republicans would lose a lot of donations.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,482 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,980 posts)Except in someone's little pea brain.
Too bad the media adopted her unrealistic framing as to what the case was about.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,482 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,683 posts)were smart-enough to realize that overturning Obergefell would find them tarred, feathered, and glittered.
Ms. Toad
(37,980 posts)except in the imagination of Davis, and anyone reporting it who didn't bother to check with a lawyer.
MurrayDelph
(5,683 posts)But when has that stopped the Republicans on the court from repurposing a case before?
Ms. Toad
(37,980 posts)Crazy misreading of the law as applied to facts and legal issues actually cases in front of them - yes. Reaching issues within a case that were not necessary to resolve the case - yes.
But this case was about whether she is free to exercise her religious beliefs when doing so violates a generally applicable law and harms individuals in the process. It had nothing, legally, to do with the constitutionality of same gender marriage - no matter how many times, or in how many courts, she stomped her feet and insisted it did.
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Ruby the Liberal
(26,572 posts)This one was weak sauce.
LetMyPeopleVote
(172,486 posts)The county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples had filed a long-shot petition to the justices.
Hallelujah!!!
— Stephen Trumbull (@smtrumbull.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T14:45:07.808Z
Supreme Court denies review of Kim Davisâ petition that sought to overturn Obergefell www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/supreme-court-kim-davis-petition-obergefell-same-sex-marriage-rcna242618
It would have taken four justices to grant to review. No justices noted any dissent from the denial.
Davis is the former Kentucky county clerk who made headlines a decade ago for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples on religious grounds in the wake of the Obergefell decision.
Her failed petition sought to upend a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit, which affirmed her loss in a civil case brought by David Moore and David Ermold, whose marriage license she refused. Successfully opposing Supreme Court review, Moore and Ermold wrote that Obergefell was correctly decided, and there is no need to revisit it.