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OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:00 AM Monday

Okay, I'll go into the lion's den...

Last edited Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:30 PM - Edit history (3)

because I think things are likely to get more and more tense here after the events of yesterday.

Whenever people post complaints, borne of frustration, about the Democrats in Congress and Dem leaders, they are often met with "What do you want them to DO??? They have no power right now. The GOP controls the narrative and the media."

I don't know what I want them to do other than, somehow, hold a daily press conference. Alternate AOC and Jasmine Crockett and other strong progressives. Every day, like clockwork. People will start to look forward knowing it's coming and tune in. Address everything that happened in the previous 24 hours. And use language that will get attention every single day. Use every social media platform consistently to get that daily message out. More and more are tuning out traditional media; we want to hear directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak. I think that's especially true of young people. AOC and Jasmine and others know how to create content that will spread on social media. Fuck MSM. Get the friggin podcasters and "influencers" (ugh, I loathe that term) to cover them religiously because they're visibly fighting hard. Every day. Loudly. They're creating reliable, consistent content, addressing the barrage of BS. In unison versus everyone's individual social media content.

There is white noise everywhere. They need to come together to break through with clarity and that will require consistency. Not all of them have to get on board; there are probably only a handful or so who can do this effectively.

LET THEM. The rest can amplify the message, or at the very least don't shit on it.

I don't know what I want them to do beyond becoming much, much more visible, with clear, unified messaging in the face of authoritarian chaos, and I/WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. We elect the best and brightest among us and, together, THEY are the ones who should be figuring this shit out. It's not on us to come up with a gameplan for them and we have every right to express frustration, regardless of the obstacles they face. Let them speak out loudly about that too, and why they're having to take a different approach.

I don't care if NYC doesn't represent the whole country. The Mamdani template should be used. There is an alleged POTUS who is demented and deranged and floods the zone every day through his own platform. Newsome is combatting this most effectively and consistently (key) thus far.

BE VISIBLE. BE LOUD. BE CONSISTENT. BE HUMOROUS and ENGAGING when possible. Even if it's only a relative handful doing it. When they get reliable attention, others will want to be part of it. We desperately need that.

And until they figure out what to do, our frustration is understandable and it's not always going to be expressed rationally after a huge event like yesterday, nor calmly. No one is cheering for them harder than we here at DU.

Only my 2 cents, of course.

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Okay, I'll go into the lion's den... (Original Post) OneGrassRoot Monday OP
Right on Easterncedar Monday #1
Let me rec and second AKwannabe Monday #39
The OP is perfectly stated Bluetus Monday #86
How about we replace Schumer for a start, then move on from there. dem4decades Monday #2
I received two pieces of marketing mail on Saturday. Frasier Balzov Monday #4
😂😂😂😂 Well done. n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #6
Instead, we're just left with the image shelshaw Monday #16
Yes. Replacing Schumer has to happen. yellow dahlia Monday #45
"I don't care if NYC doesn't represent the whole country. The Mamdani template should be used." J_William_Ryan Monday #3
How about a leader that inspires the base? Can we have that? dem4decades Monday #7
Here I thought that the Mamdani victory gab13by13 Monday #13
He didn't win because he was a democratic socialist misanthrope Monday #87
We should have leaders who truly represent us Grim Chieftain Monday #42
My idea for leader is Chris van Hollen. yellow dahlia Monday #49
Great answer, thank you. dem4decades Monday #50
I understand that is the counter and appreciate the respectful reply. OneGrassRoot Monday #9
How do you think Schumer plays across America? dem4decades Monday #11
Well, if AOC runs against him, if he runs, gab13by13 Monday #14
I'm not saying AOC should be the leader either, but someone? dem4decades Monday #19
I am a strong supporter of Murphy. He is a great communicator. yellow dahlia Monday #52
Are you asking me? I don't think he inspires confidence in the majority of the base... OneGrassRoot Monday #15
Unrec LearnedHand Monday #62
Kick! Clouds Passing Monday #5
Well said. A clear, concise and consistent message is needed. Watch and learn from Bernie Raven123 Monday #8
Also well said. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #10
There was a time when Republicans had no overwhelming power. avebury Monday #12
I agree with you in principle. The Republicks had their plan, plus........... mjvpi Monday #33
I like the idea of a daily presser at a specific time. Hope22 Monday #17
That did work well in Illinois. murielm99 Monday #20
That's what they pay the dozens of kacekwl Monday #21
If they don't know how to capitalize on the (essentially free) use of social media... OneGrassRoot Monday #29
The Dems need to publicize it! Hope22 Monday #23
Social media, especially YouTube... OneGrassRoot Monday #27
Also we can't just be reactive, hoping folks recoil at the GOP so hard they vote Dem Arazi Monday #18
And yet the orange monster has recently doubled down on his threats to SS and Medicare. Hope22 Monday #26
i depend on social security and medicare, rampartd Monday #57
These are all great suggestions FakeNoose Monday #22
YES! They most certainly are! OneGrassRoot Monday #30
I don't think that it's a matter of being "progressive" other than being a great communicator w/a great message Jbraybarten Monday #24
Not sure how I feel about that... OneGrassRoot Monday #31
What I'm saying isn't about a progressive or centrist message, but that we need to have good messengers & good messaging Jbraybarten Monday #37
Yes we do. n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #41
yeah Jbraybarten Monday #58
Thank you OneGrasRoot. Just so you know, Kieth Olbermann, someone who knows something about flashman13 Monday #25
Agree 100% n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #35
Another perspective Freddie Monday #28
Be FOR something Wild blueberry Monday #32
K&R spanone Monday #34
"Make good trouble." BarbD Monday #36
Yes - they should be at the microphones KT2000 Monday #38
This. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #40
I agree - Dems need to be in front of the microphone constantly. There are some other great messengers, yellow dahlia Monday #43
I agree w/everyone you mentioned. We DO have some great people... OneGrassRoot Monday #46
I'm going to start writing (more) letters and encourage them to do just what you said. n/t yellow dahlia Monday #54
Your 4 cents worth is quite impressive to me. Prairie_Seagull Monday #44
That's very kind of you, and I agree with your points as well. n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #47
A bunch of COPIUM bullshit Mr.WeRP Monday #48
.... OneGrassRoot Monday #51
If you cared, you would stop trying to justify what the Democrats just did. Mr.WeRP Monday #53
Two things: H2O Man Monday #61
I've been fighting the fight for as long if not longer Mr.WeRP Monday #64
Ah, I see... OneGrassRoot Monday #67
Gracious. H2O Man Monday #72
Hmmmm.... OneGrassRoot Monday #63
Maybe I misunderstood your post but this part in particular Mr.WeRP Monday #66
I'm obviously not communicating well (not a new development...lol) OneGrassRoot Monday #68
Ok, I apologize. Clearly did not understand your intent. Mr.WeRP Monday #69
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Monday #73
I think you completely misread what OneGrassRoot is saying. Scrivener7 Monday #80
Fight JCMach1 Monday #55
YES ms.pamela Monday #56
Thank you! H2O Man Monday #59
... OneGrassRoot Monday #65
Preach it! LearnedHand Monday #60
"I/WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT." OldBaldy1701E Monday #70
We shouldn't have to figure out.. OneGrassRoot Monday #75
Oh, I agree with you. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Monday #76
Exactly. These programs have been financially supported by the people. Hope22 Monday #79
I agree totally, BUT... Wednesdays Monday #71
Say what you will about Cuomo, but during Covid, when no one else was out there Scrivener7 Monday #78
Yes I do! n/t OneGrassRoot Monday #84
My point is to bypass them... OneGrassRoot Monday #81
Exactly! happy feet Monday #74
Agree with every point. SO well said! Scrivener7 Monday #77
They do! Google daily press democrats! Tesha Monday #82
It's not being done effectively then... OneGrassRoot Monday #83
Love it! Joinfortmill Monday #85
My 2 cents... Question: Wasn't the Nov 4 landslide win enough to prove that Democrats are doing the work? ancianita Monday #88
Well, that was unnecessarily condescending AF... OneGrassRoot Tuesday #89
You take offense where not intended. I hear you. I just offered some factual context to consider. ancianita Tuesday #95
Hmm... 2naSalit Tuesday #90
I agree... OneGrassRoot Tuesday #91
We don't elect the best and brightest. We elect NewHendoLib Tuesday #92
THAT is an excellent point. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Tuesday #93
Don't know why they haven't been doing this. yardwork Tuesday #94

Bluetus

(1,894 posts)
86. The OP is perfectly stated
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:01 PM
Monday

Standing in the well of the House or Senate with a flip chart is not an effective communication strategy in 2025.

There are plenty of ways to be creative about getting in front of the public, but all of these things start with the message. AOC is clear about her message, and it is a message that connects strongly with the grass roots, and even with some MAGA people. It is all about economic fairness, investment in our future, and countering the spiraling corruption.

Schumer and the DNC have no message. None, so it makes no difference what media they use.

Newsom is very clear with his messaging, as is Pritzker and it aligns with AOC and Bernie about 90% or more. So the reality is we just can't expect much out of many of the DC players. They simply are not grounded in anything outside the Beltway. And the Betlway is loaded with thousands of lobbyists and consultants that are all working 180 degrees opposite the interests of average Americans.

Frasier Balzov

(4,722 posts)
4. I received two pieces of marketing mail on Saturday.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:14 AM
Monday

One was from Sharper Image the other was from Chuck Schumer.

Yes! I said. This is what I want for Christmas!

A Sharper Schumer.

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
45. Yes. Replacing Schumer has to happen.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:27 PM
Monday

There have been several opportunities for a paradigm shift, that have passed us by.

I felt the pathway for a paradigm shift after Cory Booker spent 25 hours on the Senate floor. The momentum was there.

And then Tuesday's election results were screaming for a paradigm shift. The power is there - take it.

Schumer does not have the power. He is not the leader for the moment.

J_William_Ryan

(3,144 posts)
3. "I don't care if NYC doesn't represent the whole country. The Mamdani template should be used."
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:11 AM
Monday

Disagree.

Because NYC doesn't represent the whole country.

Otherwise, it was naïve to believe the shutdown would last much longer; naïve to believe Congressional Democrats would allow Americans to continue to suffer the consequence of the shutdown, putting what’s best for the country before what’s best for the party.

Last, this is the mechanics of American governance – where the party out of power is indeed voiceless, powerless, and unable to affect change.

gab13by13

(30,625 posts)
13. Here I thought that the Mamdani victory
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:32 AM
Monday

only scared the hell out of Magats. A Socialist, populist, with charisma who fights is Magats worst fear, apparently he is also feared by moderate Democrats.

misanthrope

(9,290 posts)
87. He didn't win because he was a democratic socialist
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:36 PM
Monday

He won because he spent a long campaign meeting people where they were and worked to earn the image of someone who wanted to be a public servant, who cared about constituents and the people who feel underrepresented in our current political system. He looked genuine. It is that simple.

Grim Chieftain

(909 posts)
42. We should have leaders who truly represent us
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:17 PM
Monday

We should not be of the mindset that once they are elected they should be immune from criticism. No! They should be held to account. I am a retired professor and at the end of each semester we passed out student evaluations for students to evaluate how each professor was doing. Those evaluations were instrumental in making sure the best possible people were teaching the students. Professors were held accountable. Is it too much to expect that our elected representatives be likewise held accountable?

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
49. My idea for leader is Chris van Hollen.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:33 PM
Monday

I think he is creative and brave. He thinks outside the box.

He showed his moxie when he dared to go to El Salvador on behalf of one of his constituents.

I also seem him as someone who can communicate with a variety of personalities, such as part of the Dem caucus. He seem him as someone who can foster cooperation.

We need a leader for the moment.

He is not the only one who would do a great job.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
9. I understand that is the counter and appreciate the respectful reply.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:27 AM
Monday

Of course, I and others disagree but I respect that that is your position. Norms have been increasingly shattered since 2015, and are being destroyed daily over the last year, not the least of which is the mechanics of American governance.

There is nothing preventing the unified, consistent, daily presser w/consistent social media content as I described. The party out of power no longer needs to be voiceless, powerless or unable to affect change. We have new tools now and need to use them most effectively. And those tools are likely to always be changing now. That's why this is a younger person's game moving forward, imo.

dem4decades

(13,390 posts)
11. How do you think Schumer plays across America?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:30 AM
Monday

Pelosi was a great leader, Schumer some how keeps his post.

dem4decades

(13,390 posts)
19. I'm not saying AOC should be the leader either, but someone?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:41 AM
Monday

Murphy? Or someone else? I'm just spitballing.

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
52. I am a strong supporter of Murphy. He is a great communicator.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:41 PM
Monday

He may be our best bet for 2028.

These past ten months, he has been adamant that we need to focus first on saving Democracy, or we won't have any free and fair elections. I agree.

I think Tuesdays elections show that there is a mandate against the authoritarian take over and corruption of the regime. With a mandate, it is harder to to "steal" elections.

I think we need to not "screw up" between now and the midterms. Which is why we need the right leader(s).

I'm going to write to my Democratic Senators and express my opinion that Schumer is not the leader for the moment.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
15. Are you asking me? I don't think he inspires confidence in the majority of the base...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:34 AM
Monday

and is increasingly frustrating many of us. I feel that way about many of the older Dems especially.

I didn't always agree with Nancy's positions but there is zero doubt that she was an effective leader.

LearnedHand

(5,133 posts)
62. Unrec
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:02 PM
Monday

They may not have legislative power, but they always have a voice and a microphone. They simply choose not to use it and totally choose not to learn from Crockett, Newsom, Mamdani, Sanders, AOC, etc.

Also, your reasoning falls completely apart when you look at how successful republican stalling tactics have ALWAYS been when they were out of power. These milquetoast dem “leaders” could at least take a page from that book.

Raven123

(7,300 posts)
8. Well said. A clear, concise and consistent message is needed. Watch and learn from Bernie
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:26 AM
Monday

I am NOT saying Dems should copy him. They MUST recognize and replicate his ability to drive a message that is easy to understand and put the pedal to the metal. I don’t think every Dem needs to be out there at this point. As we get closer to the 2026 Election Day, of course that will change. The rhetorically challenged are not our best assets at this point (Schumer included).

avebury

(11,176 posts)
12. There was a time when Republicans had no overwhelming power.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:31 AM
Monday

They dug in, chose what to fight for and became relentless with laser focus. Now they control everything.

The point is that once the Democrats lost pretty much all power they should have gotten together and worked out a multi year plan to take back power. Ditch the egos, form a solid plan and flight relentlessly. There won't be quick results but failure to essentially adopt a similar playbook has give the Republicans more time to become entrenched.

You can dispise the Republicans while also admitting that the excel at strategy. Democrats spend too much time trying to be the nice guy. Republicans can take steps that hurt people because they know the Democrats will be the bigger person to try to help the people. The result is the the Republicans make constant gains in their plans. It has taken time but the eventually reach their goals.

mjvpi

(1,809 posts)
33. I agree with you in principle. The Republicks had their plan, plus...........
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:27 AM
Monday

…….the Heritage Foundation and company focusing Dark Money. Terribly effective. Plus a propaganda outlet like Fox. It’s the formula to concentrate power.

Empathy and a belief that government can solve problems are what binds us together as a party. I will include Democratic Socialists under that tent. It’s really hard to put on blinders and soullessly repeat the “ talking points of the day” when you’ve got a soul and a mission.

Again, I agree with your analysis of the effectiveness of the Republicks.

Hope22

(4,319 posts)
17. I like the idea of a daily presser at a specific time.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:38 AM
Monday

It worked great in my state during the early days of Covid. Communication is key.

murielm99

(32,494 posts)
20. That did work well in Illinois.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:41 AM
Monday

But will anyone publicize it? How do we get attention for a daily presser?

kacekwl

(8,773 posts)
21. That's what they pay the dozens of
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:59 AM
Monday

media expert advisors to do. If they don't know then get better ones.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
29. If they don't know how to capitalize on the (essentially free) use of social media...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:08 AM
Monday

they're useless now. A dedicated YouTube channel. (See post below)

Hope22

(4,319 posts)
23. The Dems need to publicize it!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:03 AM
Monday

How about a TV commercial? MSNBC coverage and notices on signs at demonstrations. Also a national post card campaign. What is the DNC doing?

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
27. Social media, especially YouTube...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:07 AM
Monday

Start a dedicated YouTube channel. Post that daily presser everywhere. Eventually MSM will likely pick up on it, but personally I don't think so much time and energy should be given to MSM any more. None of it. The journos who were on MSM and were fired over the last year are killing it on social media, perhaps getting more attention than when they did have a traditional platform.

These are new times and these new tools need to be capitalized upon much, much better. (It's also a lot cheaper than MSM. A LOT.)

Arazi

(8,547 posts)
18. Also we can't just be reactive, hoping folks recoil at the GOP so hard they vote Dem
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:41 AM
Monday

We saw with the repeal of Roe that doesn’t work. We can’t wait for those who aren’t paying attention to wake up.

We relied on folks being appalled at the ACA costs to apply sufficient pressure that the GOP would repent. That’s reactive.

We need much MUCH more pro-active policies and messaging. AOC’s Green New Deal policy proposals failed initially but she got out there and sold it, relentlessly despite the mocking, and a lot of her ideas made it into the infrastructure bill that Dems passed.

Bernie with his relentless “living wage” message… that’s helped raise the minimum wage in many places.

We need “Medicare for all” grand strategies. And then message the hell out of them

Hope22

(4,319 posts)
26. And yet the orange monster has recently doubled down on his threats to SS and Medicare.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:06 AM
Monday

It is all on the line until a new regime can take over. How or when that happens I don’t know. But time will tell!

rampartd

(2,961 posts)
57. i depend on social security and medicare,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:48 PM
Monday

they are lost, irretrievably, and we will have no help from repubs pr justices saving them.

we need to build an operational safety net including all programs and with as few "means tests" as possible. no corporations either.

FakeNoose

(39,444 posts)
22. These are all great suggestions
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:00 AM
Monday

I have to say that our Democratic Governors have more power and press magnetism right now than the D Senators and Representatives. It's sad to say, but our legislators have all been cut off at the knees on most issues.

The Governors - such as Newsom, Hochul, Pritzker, Shapiro, and several others - can hold a press conference in their capital cities and get noticed by their local and regional media, sometimes national media too. I like that these Governors aren't afraid to talk back to Chump and also get the constituents ready for "action." People will often make phone calls, write emails and letters to the editor after they have heard their Governor's views on certain issues.

The leadership doesn't seem to be coming from Democrats in Congress, other than a few bright stars.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
30. YES! They most certainly are!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:11 AM
Monday

If they could do something similar -- with cohesion and consistency - that would be fantastic. And talk about more than just their state even though, understandably, that's their priority. Show how these issues cross state lines. Be unified. Be consistent, not only in messaging but daily visibility. Be loud and visible.

Jbraybarten

(121 posts)
24. I don't think that it's a matter of being "progressive" other than being a great communicator w/a great message
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:03 AM
Monday

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
31. Not sure how I feel about that...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:15 AM
Monday

but it's a point to ponder. What I do feel is that centrist message being the most visible isn't what is needed in this moment. On the other hand, labels have, for me, become useless. I don't think it's the person so much as the message, beyond the person needing to be very, very effective.

Jbraybarten

(121 posts)
37. What I'm saying isn't about a progressive or centrist message, but that we need to have good messengers & good messaging
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:36 AM
Monday

flashman13

(1,755 posts)
25. Thank you OneGrasRoot. Just so you know, Kieth Olbermann, someone who knows something about
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:03 AM
Monday

journalism and commentary, suggested this approach several months ago. It's a winner of an idea.

I for one am tired of, "We (Democrats) don't have any power. What do you want us to do? Waah!". If you recall, when Republicans were in the minority, Moscow Mitch managed to keep the Senate tied up in knots. I hate the man, but maybe we could learn something from his play book.

Freddie

(9,998 posts)
28. Another perspective
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:08 AM
Monday

Proof again that Republicans will. not. negotiate. This is the party that once claimed “bipartisanship is date rape.” This is a major disappointment but we can’t just throw in the towel and let them win the midterms. We need to remind people that Republicans were going to extreme lengths to STARVE PEOPLE rather than give a little on the healthcare issue. They’d rather throw thousands out of work, refuse to pay the ones still working, and disrupt vital air travel rather than help people. We have to turn this disappointment around and show the people who Republicans really are. In their minds, working together to help Americans is date rape.

Wild blueberry

(8,003 posts)
32. Be FOR something
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:23 AM
Monday

Like Bernie and Mamdani. People all over, of all affiliations respond well to a positive plan.
Food. Housing. Healthcare.

We can be FOR something and defy Frump simultaneously.

BarbD

(1,351 posts)
36. "Make good trouble."
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:32 AM
Monday

We can learn a lot from the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's. Persistent pressure. Re-read MLK's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail. It's all of us together demanding justice.

We shall overcome.

KT2000

(21,812 posts)
38. Yes - they should be at the microphones
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:50 AM
Monday

for the next several days explaining why they did this and the effect of the republicans' desire to take healthcare away from millions of people. The Rs are spreading lies and the resistance from the party leaders is another tired lecture.
Take them out of the picture and put some younger politicians behind the mike and look alive.
How did we get leadership that sounds like college professors instead of inspirational leaders.

I listened to President Obama's interview on Marc Maron's last podcast. He is still inspiring people!!!

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
43. I agree - Dems need to be in front of the microphone constantly. There are some other great messengers,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:19 PM
Monday

who don't get enough attention.

Chris Murphy is a phenomenal messenger. He is genuine and sincere - he is an explainer.

Melanie Stansbury is a great communicator, and smart. Others that come to mind are Dan Goldman, Sheldon Whitehouse, Maxwell Frost. As renowned as he is as a Constitutional scholar, Jamie Raskin doesn't get enough attention.

And the first thing that needs to happen is Schumer needs to step down. I say it often. There needs to be a paradigm shift. The "old school" ways aren't working. The "minority" leader needs to be creative and brave. Chris van Hollen comes to mind. He is also a great communicator.

People on this forum are feeling betrayed by the Dems in Congress. I think we have a right to expect more of our representatives.

Thank you for pointing to solutions.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
46. I agree w/everyone you mentioned. We DO have some great people...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:29 PM
Monday

and I hope they come together to strengthen their "communicator/fighter" coalition.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,552 posts)
44. Your 4 cents worth is quite impressive to me.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:23 PM
Monday

Like the idea of using people power to get a consistent message out. Chewing on MSM's cookie.
IMO the folks speaking clearly about working people are setting the pace. Follow, catch up or run a lonely race. I and many, I believe, will be donating to those who speak clearly about this.

Who am I but nicely done OneGrassRoot.

Mr.WeRP

(1,050 posts)
48. A bunch of COPIUM bullshit
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:32 PM
Monday

For more than two decades, I have watched time and time again the “centrist” ruin any and every chance of furthering a progressive agenda that supports the working class. I have donated the maximum amount to Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Biden and Harris. What was the point?

To have the ACA for 15 years so 8-10 traitors could help undo it?

Sorry folks, I am beyond bitter.

I have protested,
I have organized and knocked on doors,
I have donated 10s of thousands of dollars and am by no means wealthy.

For what?

Democrats are worse off today than when George W. was President.

The party fought the wrong fights with one hand tied behind their back.

We lost the Supreme Court which we should have a majority in.

Red states do whatever the fuck they want while blue states are punished.

SS and Medicare are next on the chopping block while Mango Mussolini is planning to go hard on liberals.

The Democratic leadership has lead us to a place where it is not even safe to be a liberal. We need to punish the Zel Millers, the Sinemas, the Tulsi Gabbards, the Fettermens… all of these 8 assholes who betrayed us and the 10 before who passed the CR in the spring. This weakness in leadership has brought us to this point.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
51. ....
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:41 PM
Monday

I really, really, really hear you and your anger/frustration/bitterness is 100% valid. I wanted to acknowledge and offer a .

H2O Man

(78,253 posts)
61. Two things:
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:00 PM
Monday

First, I have not read anything that would suggest the OP attempts to "justify what the Democrats just did." Second, I do not think you have a clue who you were just responding to. For if you did, you would either not have replied harshly, or would at very least delete such a comment. I say this as someone who has, for over 20 years on this forum, been firmly at the very left edge of the Democratic Party, and who has little faith in establishment Democrats. OneGrassRoot has -- for twenty+ years -- been someone that I recognize as being of like mind.

Mr.WeRP

(1,050 posts)
64. I've been fighting the fight for as long if not longer
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:12 PM
Monday

Not just from the Internet, but on the streets. I was personal friends with SEVERAL truth speakers here who have been banned for speaking the truth, including and certainly not limited to William Rivers Pitt, God rest his soul. I am a Bostonian and a patriot at that. Please take your concerns elsewhere and take a long hard look at what standing up for goodness has gotten us… absolutely nothing that isn’t being undone because a bunch of apologists didn’t like it when people here called out the Bullshit from within the party itself. I know well the players here at this site and in the real world for more than a quarter of a century. You banned people here for calling out Garland FFS and they were right! This site reflects the very same problems that plague the political organization called the Democratic Party. The party has lost labor and farmers which is inexcusable in and of itself. All because the party wanted to quiet dissent to have the appearance of looking as tight as Republicans when it has come to betraying the party. But the reality is its enabled traitor after traitor in the ranks for the sake of being a “Big Tent”.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
67. Ah, I see...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:18 PM
Monday

My final comment about we at DU cheering them on must have felt apologist to you. I get that.

I'm a registered Independent for the last 25 years. Yet the Democratic platform and most candidates have been what I choose to support given our options. I'm not a fan of the two-party stranglehold.

But it is wise to be mindful of where we are speaking right now, and there are rules if we choose to continue to do so.

H2O Man

(78,253 posts)
72. Gracious.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:51 PM
Monday

For the record, I did not ban anyone for "calling out Garland." I was friends with Will Pitt as well. He offered me a position with TruthOut, which I declined as I do not want income for expressing my opinion, or to be well known. I'm simply an old woodchuck who has had the experiences of getting high with Abbie Hoffman, hanging out with Angela Davis, interviewing Mark Rudd for DU, and being a volunteer -- hence, unpaid -- speech-writer for a number of Democratic Party candidates that I have been fond of. I served on my late friend Rubin "Hurricane" Carter's defense team, and worked with the Haudenosaunee's Grand Council of Chiefs, and have been involved in environmental cases in the federal courts. I have no hesitation when it comes to comparing credentials with anyone on DU, yourself included. Yet none of this -- not a single bit -- makes my opinion any more valid or important than anyone else's.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
63. Hmmmm....
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:10 PM
Monday

I definitely am not justifying what happened. I thought your "Copium" comment was aimed toward people who are. I think wires are crossed here somewhere.

Mr.WeRP

(1,050 posts)
66. Maybe I misunderstood your post but this part in particular
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:15 PM
Monday

Rubbed me the wrong way:

There is white noise everywhere. They need to come together to break through with clarity and that will require consistency. Not all of them have to get on board; there are probably only a handful or so who can do this effectively.

LET THEM. The rest can amplify the message, or at the very least don't shit on it.


I’m not singing kumbaya with with folks who are trying to defend what a failure last night was.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
68. I'm obviously not communicating well (not a new development...lol)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:23 PM
Monday

When I say they, I mean the candidates most of us tend to support most strongly, like AOC, Crockett, Raskin, Murphy and others. The fighters. The good communicators. The other dems can help by not shitting on the message, if they can't join in in a cohesive, coherent, consistent way.

Those are the people I want to see out there every day, same time, hammering home a clear message and daily refutations of the previous 24 hours of authoritarian bullshit and criminality. Not watering anything down.

H2O Man

(78,253 posts)
73. Respectfully disagree.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:56 PM
Monday

I think you communicated your thoughts very well. Do you remember an old commercial about consuming "grumpy dog food"? It is just my opinion, but the old saying "you are what you eat" comes into play here. Those who consume grumpy dog food risk being consumed by grumpy dog food. For this very reason, I have long held that "you are who you eat" is more enlightening.

JCMach1

(29,046 posts)
55. Fight
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:46 PM
Monday

By any means necessary.

Moderation and compromise does not work against fascists. How do these senators not understand that???

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
65. ...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:12 PM
Monday

Thanks, Dear Sir, and thanks for the support above. I think wires got crossed somewhere. lol

OldBaldy1701E

(9,487 posts)
70. "I/WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT."
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:45 PM
Monday

Well, guess what?

(Ain't no hero coming to save us. The broken system isn't going to help us. The programming worked.)

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
75. We shouldn't have to figure out..
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:07 PM
Monday

what Dems do as far as strategy.

We the People can and are doing what we can in a variety of ways including and beyond voting.

My OP is a response to the many cries of “what do you want/expect Dems to DO!” not being in power.

Hope22

(4,319 posts)
79. Exactly. These programs have been financially supported by the people.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:24 PM
Monday

Self employed people and small business owners have paid double for their share and half again for each employee. This is theft on a very large scale and I am sick of dead beat politicians saying differently.

Wednesdays

(21,300 posts)
71. I agree totally, BUT...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:47 PM
Monday

...what M$M channel, owned by Republican billionaires, will air AOC or Crockett?

Oh yeah, C-SPAN will carry them!

Scrivener7

(57,772 posts)
78. Say what you will about Cuomo, but during Covid, when no one else was out there
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:24 PM
Monday

talking any sense, he started daily briefings on YouTube. He got so many views that the media started to cover him.

Did you watch them? Do you remember that feeling of, "Finally, I'm not alone in this. Finally, someone with information is telling me what we know and what I can do."

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
81. My point is to bypass them...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:27 PM
Monday

Perhaps those of us who are older and don’t participate in social media don’t recognize its power to shift the narrative. So many former journos fired by MSM went to YouTube.

If Dems held a daily presser, it would get out without MSM. I’m old but I believe the MSM needs to made irrelevant until something drastic changes, and there are ways around them.

Tesha

(21,074 posts)
82. They do! Google daily press democrats!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:35 PM
Monday

They do, and what do the local news cover, a sound bite from the right and maybe a glance at the left

Cable news only covers what’s interesting to their audience, anything else and they get slammed.

The Senate cannot force people to listen to the press conferences,, oh this is so frustrating

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
83. It's not being done effectively then...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:44 PM
Monday

I agree it’s frustrating. They ARE doing things. I’m saying to get away from traditional boring pressers. Don’t do them with the goal of getting traditional media to cover it. And do them in a way that attracts attention.

We pay attention here, much more than the average person. But their pressers aren’t even on our radar.

Someone needs to be clever and think way outside the box, like Newsome’s team has.

ancianita

(42,539 posts)
88. My 2 cents... Question: Wasn't the Nov 4 landslide win enough to prove that Democrats are doing the work?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:59 PM
Monday
I don't know what I want them to do other than, somehow, hold a daily press conference. Alternate AOC and Jasmine Crockett and other strong progressives. Every day, like clockwork.


Here's a suggestion:
Why complain here about daily press conferences when you can email or call AOC, Jasmine, Schumer, Jeffries to lodge your daily presser suggestion, and that you speak for at least 213 Democrats who recommended daily pressers. You get back what you put into it. And where. Maybe those 213 can pitch in and distribute the effort.

If Democrats don't check their independent sources, they can miss even the weekly pressers.
I just got all these on YouTube. Took 10 minutes. Pretty easily. You might also keep a daily log of which Democratic leaders show up on CSPAN channels (tv or YouTube), and nightly cable news.
I see them every single day and night.

Senate Democratic Leadership Press Conference 09/03/2025
Senate Democratic Leadership Press Conference 09/09/2025
Senate Democratic Leadership Press Conference 09/16/2025
Senate Democratic Leadership Press Conference 09/30/2025

October 20, 2025: Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, Senators Patty Murray, and Brian Schatz spoke to reporters
October 28, 2025: Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and others held a press conference.

LIVE: House Leaders Hold Weekly Press Conferences (Sept …

October 6, 2025: House Minority Leader Jeffries News Conference on Government Shutdown
October 14, 2025: House Democratic Leaders Hold News Conference on Day 15 of Shutdown
October 21, 2025: House Democratic Leader Jeffries & Dems Hold News Conference on Gov't Shutdown Day 22
October 29, 2025: House Democratic Leader Jeffries Holds News Conference on Day 30 of Federal Shutdown
October 30, 2025: House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries held a press availability

November 5, 2025: House Democratic Leaders Hold News Conference
November 8, 2025: House Minority Leader Jeffries Holds News Conference on Day 41 of Government Shutdown
November 9, 2025: Senate Democratic Leader Schumer Speaks on the Senate floor

If your frustration is about how much work you'd have to do to find out what Democrats do daily, maybe check your effort level daily. Looks pretty easy to see that they're out there daily.
This post took me 15 mins to collect data and write.
Finding a Democratic presser daily would probably take you a minute on YouTube...or
Like this one today posted by Rhiannon12866:
https://democraticunderground.com/132160233



OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
89. Well, that was unnecessarily condescending AF...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:48 AM
Tuesday

1. My OP was primarily aimed at the DUers who, when other DUers create OPs and complain about Dems, reply asking "What do you want them to DO? They aren't in power."

I offered my thoughts about that, anticipating a lot of OPs expressing strong frustration about the Sunday deal, leading to the "What do you want them to DO?" replies. I also wanted to make the point that I personally don't feel it's up to us to figure out what they should do as far as a strategy; they are the best and brightest among us and that's why we voted them in.

2. That said, of COURSE we have responsibilities on our end. You have absolutely no idea what I do to engage politically or within the community. I'm old enough now that I don't feel compelled to share the list of my activities, which do happen to include regularly contacting local, state and federal elected officials.

3. This OP wasn't a complaint about Dems as many other posts today have been. To reiterate, it was a message to fellow DUers who get frustrated with other DUers' frustrations with congressional Dems, and I offered one answer to the standard question of "What do you want them to do?"

4. OF COURSE the Dems are doing something. The win on Tuesday made me ecstatic. I never said they aren't doing anything, nor did I say they haven't accomplished anything.

5. I realize there are a variety of pressers. That's part of the problem. It's disjointed and primarily intended for news media, which isn't exactly our friend.

Perhaps we're all swimming in different content and media. From where I and many others sit, the Dems do NOT control the narrative at all with their efforts thus far, including the various pressers. They have the goods; they have the vision and are doing the work for the people. What isn't happening is getting that info out there in a way that engages more and more people. Traditional media won't do it any more; too many are tuning out. Traditional media tends to pick up on what goes viral in independent and social media now.

I'm far, far from alone in the critique about Dems still not having found their footing regarding CONSISTENT, COORDINATED messaging that goes viral and maintains attention.

I suggested that I would like to see is something that controls the narrative. I shared what my idea is, for whatever it's worth; I won't repeat my OP's suggestion here, but it would do something different from your list of pressers.

ancianita

(42,539 posts)
95. You take offense where not intended. I hear you. I just offered some factual context to consider.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
Tuesday

2naSalit

(98,844 posts)
90. Hmm...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:53 AM
Tuesday
I/WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. We elect the best and brightest among us and, together, THEY are the ones who should be figuring this shit out. It's not on us to come up with a gameplan for them and we have every right to express frustration, regardless of the obstacles they face. Let them speak out loudly about that too, and why they're having to take a different approach.


Actually, I think it IS on us to work with them in finding solutions. Sure, they need to work on it more closely but they REPRESENT us which means we need to supply input for them to work with, it isn't entirely on them to figure this shit out. We're supposed to work together with our representatives which also requires the electorate to be educated in their responsibilities in this democracy thing. Elections are only a part of the whole thing.

It's a participatory government, you can't put this entirely on them, we have to provide them with info and support too.

IMHO.

OneGrassRoot

(23,906 posts)
91. I agree...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 06:04 AM
Tuesday

And I believe many of us here are very active in communicating with elected officials, offering feedback and suggestions.

I shared one thing I would like to see them do. I don't see it as a complicated suggestion, certainly not rocket science. Controlling the narrative has always been our/their challenge and I don't believe their efforts thus far have any hope of doing that. Only they can do it; we can suggest it and amplify it. I have offered it as a suggestion via official channels and on various social media platforms of our reps.

NewHendoLib

(61,425 posts)
92. We don't elect the best and brightest. We elect
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:45 AM
Tuesday

Those that can afford it, or get funding, or rise above the noise with messaging - which can often not be the one we need.

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