Read the text of what they voted on. I haven't yet so I'll not be jumping on any bandwagons until I do.

After the holidays but during campaign season

The optics of a 2nd shutdown...

Besides it was only some Dems not all. It is easy to criticize if you are not a Federal employee or not on SNAP. Most people are starting to get it.

It was a tough call

We had momentum with the election victories, Trump backed into a quarter. Those j******** are either extremely gullible (which I don't believe) or complicit.

"Hold the line" is very simple if you're from a union family. Those 8 traitors are as selfish as republicans, and may as well join them. Oh, wait, they already did.

and delivered by John Thune. Magats requested Democrats provide 8 Yes votes and 8 people obliged Thune.

SNAP is moving through the courts quickly, Justice Jackson has required briefs to be made today. My 5th grade grandson has reading comprehension and some of his homework is harder that deciding that providing SNAP benefits 100% from the rainy day fund is clearly spelled out in the Constitution. Krasnov was going to lose on SNAP.

That is all.

Choose who gets shafted

ACA people
SNAP people
Fed employees....

and without trust they lose voter support. Caving has consequences.

not the House.

They actively voted to end the ACA...at this point, there is no other conclusion to draw. They wanted the ACA dead.

Hope everyone is ready for the return of care being denied for preexisting conditions!

not renewing the subsidies will kill 50,000 people per year, realistically that's what 8 Democrats voted for.

Krasnov hates Barack Obama and he will go to the ends of the earth to kill Obamacare.

will be affected by this at all.

Yes, their constituents will, but they figure by the next time they are facing reelection, it won't matter anymore.

They don't care about the ACA, they don't care about those 50k people dying annually, they can all afford top tier health care, the kind of care the elite get.

They don't need to care, they've got a senate seat for as long as they want it and the money and clout it brings.

If ordinary people die, well, as long as its no one they personally care about, it's no big deal to them.

and there is no way he's going against Trump, who doesn't even want health care much less ACA subsidies or universal health. The 8 traitors are either gullible or complicit.

We need progressives only from this point forward, not a dime to the DNC or anyone crying about moderation.