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RandySF

(79,643 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:38 AM Monday

AZ-07: Johnson Will Swear In Adelita Grijalva

Speaker Mike Johnson plans to swear in Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva (D-AZ) before the House votes on a government funding package, Punchbowl News reports.

Grijalva’s installation in the House does not change the voting math for the funding bill. But she said she will sign the discharge petition to release the Epstein files. Grijalva’s signature will force a vote in the House.



https://politicalwire.com/2025/11/10/johnson-will-swear-in-adelita-grijalva/

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AZ-07: Johnson Will Swear In Adelita Grijalva (Original Post) RandySF Monday OP
Epstein files time. Although I fear they have been seriously tampered with by the harpy Bondi & her underling henchpeeps Celerity Monday #1
No, the petition does not force the Epstein files to be released Jersey Devil Monday #2
So what's the point here ? It doesn't appear like there is any ground to be gained as long as R's control the govt. ? Amaryllis Monday #5
The point is to make Repubs go on record as protectors of pedophelia Jersey Devil Monday #7
Oh, spank the baby and hug it later. Idiots NotHardly Monday #30
That's pretty much always been the case. W_HAMILTON Monday #18
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Monday #8
It actually forces the house to act on trying to obtain the epstein files and informatiin through subpoenas, SSJVegeta Monday #11
It still doesn't "force" DOJ to release the files Fiendish Thingy Monday #15
Sure, but theres a lot that can be done already without the DOJ doing more SSJVegeta Monday #16
Yes, but many believe the mythology that the discharge petition will result in the release of the files. Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #20
Wishful thinking NotHardly Monday #32
The resolution is not wishful thinking. It is a clear directive. SSJVegeta Monday #33
And anything with Dump's, Repuke, and foreign government names have already been classified Ponietz Monday #31
You're bumming me out, man!😁 surfered Monday #35
oh, I'm sure Quanto Magnus Monday #36
I hope the lawsuit goes forward. The harm of the delay doesn't evaporate. UTUSN Monday #3
Finally! sheshe2 Monday #4
::chuckle:: Moses Mike skewered on the horns of dilemma. Do I re-convene the house to vote on opening the government Attilatheblond Monday #6
The Tenn special election wouldn't nullify Grijalva signing the petition Jersey Devil Monday #9
It was about the math Attilatheblond Monday #12
WRONG! The math is this. It takes a majority of the Full House signing a discharge petition Wiz Imp Monday #23
We'll find out how many repugs want to support the felon/pedo-in-chief spanone Monday #10
Spoiler alert: All of them. BannonsLiver Monday #13
And to piss off the Maga base so much that they sit out the midterms Jersey Devil Monday #14
I hope someone within the DOJ has a hidden copy of the full Epstein files! kimbutgar Monday #17
I believe multiple have copies. 33taw Monday #29
If he's not gonna argue, that means an alternate plan is in place... Volaris Monday #19
Of course the discharge petition won't cause the Epstein files to be released, but it will get Republican politicians Fil1957 Monday #21
So the question then is WHAT DOES HE HAVE UP HIS SLEEVE? Beacause this means Maru Kitteh Monday #22
Wrong. Wiz Imp Monday #24
I hpe so Imp, but I don't think so. Maru Kitteh Monday #25
I promise you I'm right. Wiz Imp Monday #28
I don't imagine there are Epstein files (anymore) C_U_L8R Monday #26
My thoughts too. Emile Monday #34
Genuinely shocked he is relenting angrychair Monday #27
He has no choice - the moment the House is called back into session, the Democrats can raise a point of order and Midwestern Democrat Monday #40
Those who know need to come forward ms.pamela Monday #37
We shall see if this is true. republianmushroom Monday #38
TY! Cha Monday #39

Celerity

(53,014 posts)
1. Epstein files time. Although I fear they have been seriously tampered with by the harpy Bondi & her underling henchpeeps
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:40 AM
Monday

Jersey Devil

(10,601 posts)
2. No, the petition does not force the Epstein files to be released
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:47 AM
Monday

All it does is force an immediate vote on whether to release the Epstein files and that vote will probably be "no" unless there are enough Repubs to defy Trump, and even if there are, then it moves to the Senate where there will never even be a vote.

Finally, it is a resolution, not a law, so there would be no way to force Trump to comply even if it passed both houses of congress.

Amaryllis

(10,829 posts)
5. So what's the point here ? It doesn't appear like there is any ground to be gained as long as R's control the govt. ?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:51 AM
Monday

Jersey Devil

(10,601 posts)
7. The point is to make Repubs go on record as protectors of pedophelia
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:53 AM
Monday

and piss off their Maga base which has been demanding the files be released.

W_HAMILTON

(9,863 posts)
18. That's pretty much always been the case.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:04 PM
Monday

Too bad all those claiming to be on our side haven't learned this very fundamental lesson after the past decade...

Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #2)

SSJVegeta

(2,012 posts)
11. It actually forces the house to act on trying to obtain the epstein files and informatiin through subpoenas,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:58 AM
Monday
The resolution directs the House committee to make public unclassified records related to Epstein.
Specifies types of records: The types of records to be released include those about his detention and death, flight logs, names of individuals connected to his criminal activities, immunity or plea deals, and internal Department of Justice communications concerning his case.
Includes redaction guidelines: The committee can withhold or redact information that contains victims' personally identifiable information, child sexual abuse materials, images of abuse, or information that could jeopardize an active investigation. It cannot withhold information based on embarrassment or political sensitivity.
Supports ongoing investigation: The resolution explicitly states support for the committee's subpoenas and investigatory actions and encourages timely compliance.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,479 posts)
15. It still doesn't "force" DOJ to release the files
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:03 PM
Monday

Separation of Powers and all that, you know.

SSJVegeta

(2,012 posts)
16. Sure, but theres a lot that can be done already without the DOJ doing more
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:12 PM
Monday

...which the house has so far refused to do for the most part.

It isnt about forcing the DOJ to do anything. It is about forcing the house to do... something.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,479 posts)
20. Yes, but many believe the mythology that the discharge petition will result in the release of the files. Nt
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:09 PM
Monday

Ponietz

(4,158 posts)
31. And anything with Dump's, Repuke, and foreign government names have already been classified
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:04 PM
Monday

surfered

(10,249 posts)
35. You're bumming me out, man!😁
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:07 PM
Monday

But voting no is going against a lot of their base, who had been constantly told about the elite pedophile ring run out of Washington.

Quanto Magnus

(1,281 posts)
36. oh, I'm sure
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:16 PM
Monday

most of what could incriminate Trump and other Republicans has been destroyed/deleted

Attilatheblond

(7,781 posts)
6. ::chuckle:: Moses Mike skewered on the horns of dilemma. Do I re-convene the house to vote on opening the government
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:52 AM
Monday

now that Senate DEMs heading out the door caved? Or do I hold the line until the TN special election that would nullify Grijalva’s vote on the discharge petition?

Guess Big Airlines had their say on Capitol Hill and want those traffic controllers paid and back on the job before profits from holiday travel go kablooey!

Start the timer to clock how long it takes for Trump and GOP to tell furloughed federal workers they are SOL regarding missed paychecks during the shutdown!

edited because my typos get worse when I am pissed off.

Jersey Devil

(10,601 posts)
9. The Tenn special election wouldn't nullify Grijalva signing the petition
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:57 AM
Monday

The only effect that special election could possibly have is if there are enough Republicans to vote with Dems to release the files now but with a newly elected Republican there would not be enough votes.

Wiz Imp

(8,081 posts)
23. WRONG! The math is this. It takes a majority of the Full House signing a discharge petition
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:18 PM
Monday

to force a full vote. The full House has 435 seats. There are currently 2 vacant, but they don't factor in to the discharge petition requirements. A majority for discharge petition purposes always requires a majority of the FULL HOUSE which is always 218 (1/2 x 435 + 1). Grijalva will be signature #218. There have been 215 House Republicans who have refused to sign the petition. There are 2 vacant seats. Even if both winners refused to sign the petition, that would make 217. The majority is GUARANTEED with Grijalva's signature.

Jersey Devil

(10,601 posts)
14. And to piss off the Maga base so much that they sit out the midterms
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:00 PM
Monday

That is the point. I don't think anyone ever expected the petition would actually lead to the release of the Epstein files.

Volaris

(11,265 posts)
19. If he's not gonna argue, that means an alternate plan is in place...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:07 PM
Monday

This feels like 'Cersi is scheduled to be in the Cept this morning for her trial, but she ain't here..' vibes.

My guess is, the senate will do exactly NOTHING with this, and this has already been established as part of fucking dems even harder for caving.

Fil1957

(372 posts)
21. Of course the discharge petition won't cause the Epstein files to be released, but it will get Republican politicians
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:10 PM
Monday

on the record as the Guardians Of Pedophiles. This will put the matter back in the news.

Maru Kitteh

(31,000 posts)
22. So the question then is WHAT DOES HE HAVE UP HIS SLEEVE? Beacause this means
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:13 PM
Monday

He absolutely believes he will be able to continue to sit on the files to protect Trump another way.

Wiz Imp

(8,081 posts)
28. I promise you I'm right.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:51 PM
Monday

Grijalva will be sworn in sometime in the next day or 2. She will immediately sign the petition. Then there will be a slight delay (which is required) before the legislation gets brought to the floor of the House. That should happen sometime next week.

C_U_L8R

(48,521 posts)
26. I don't imagine there are Epstein files (anymore)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:30 PM
Monday

Whether tampered, destroyed or maybe they’ve been a big MacGuffin all along.
Something so incriminating seems unlikely to be hiding in a DOJ file cabinet.
I don’t know if we’ll ever know. Hope I’m wrong.
Where are the witnesses and victims? Scared/threatened/paidoff?

angrychair

(11,468 posts)
27. Genuinely shocked he is relenting
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:31 PM
Monday

Just as it was true during the shutdown there is absolutely nothing stopping him from giving the oath of office and therefore if he didn't have to do it a week ago then he doesn't have to do it now.

I utterly and unequivocally do not trust Republicans and whenever they do the right thing I question the motivation. I don't know the angle here but don't trust it

Midwestern Democrat

(1,012 posts)
40. He has no choice - the moment the House is called back into session, the Democrats can raise a point of order and
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:32 PM
Monday

demand her swearing in.

ms.pamela

(66 posts)
37. Those who know need to come forward
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:31 PM
Monday

Many FBI agents and CIA agents, present and former have seen these files, and it is time for them to come forward.

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