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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow would an effective Democratic Senate leader have kept the cavers in line/punish them?
I believe there are ways to reward or punish Senators who break from the party on important issues. Im wondering what those ways are and how could an effective leader use them. Im sure Schumer wont because hes who he is. But what if he were a fighter?
As you ponder this, keep in mind that a bunch of the cavers are retiring or not running again. How could you entice or punish them?
SARose
(1,819 posts)I would, however, explain the reasoning for reopening the government right now.
Bobstandard
(2,101 posts)Letting them off the hook encourages them and their ilk to cave next time. We need unity.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)the ACA wasnt going to be extended and fed workers werent getting paid.
Gov opens Fed workers get pain and ACA extensibg will end or be voted down.
Now the Democrats are no longer tied to that eventuality at all. The ball is 100% in repugs court.
Happy Hoosier
(9,260 posts)... the message is that either leadership supports this deal, or is ineffective in implementing coherent policy.
Ya want people to blame the entire party? That's how people blame the entire party.
Silent Type
(11,959 posts)I don't think blaming those 8 gets us anywhere, but that won't stop us from eating them.
Bobstandard
(2,101 posts)CentralMass
(16,722 posts)edisdead
(3,396 posts)This is putting the ball in repubs court to do the thing that they were going to do no matter what.
Now they get to come to the table and vote it down or let them expire and there is mo blaming the democrats for shutting down the government.
Gov open or closed this was happening no matter what. Anyone who didnt know that one year ago today wasnt paying attention.
CentralMass
(16,722 posts)rampartd
(2,961 posts)exactly what trump is doing to the supreme court right now.: remind them of who they owe and how much is expected or appeal to their greed and ambition, or show them the videotape of themselves in flagrante with farm animals. whatever he has, they will do what he wants.
Jersey Devil
(10,601 posts)The funding part would be very convincing in my opinion.
Kaleva
(40,063 posts)And there is no simple way for a Senate leader to remove a Senator from a committee.
Bobstandard
(2,101 posts)Kaleva
(40,063 posts)He or she made a statement.
stopdiggin
(14,693 posts)Jersey Devil
(10,601 posts)Think about the old western movies where Cavalry officers would be taken outside the fort and their uniform buttons would be cut off before they were released into the desert with hordes of wild Indians waiting for them. They wouldn't like that very much.
Kaleva
(40,063 posts)tritsofme
(19,727 posts)assignments.
These arent reasonable demands.
A Senate leader who tried to undertake such an action after this vote would likely be sacked himself.
BannonsLiver
(20,089 posts)Maybe thats a roadmap.
leftstreet
(38,208 posts)usonian
(22,371 posts)for more.

JCMach1
(29,046 posts)Let's be clear on that. The Senate leadership has to be purged ASAP for people who recognize the threat and how to deal with it.
stopdiggin
(14,693 posts)we need discipline! we need people to toe the line! no independent thinkers! color within the lines!
(and, yes - I'm caricaturing and being sarcastic in effort to make the point.)
Jose Garcia
(3,370 posts)Did you notice that this deal needed the support of eight Democratic Senators, and exactly eight Senators voted for it. Quite the coincidence.