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gulliver

(13,639 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:36 PM Monday

What was the plan for the SNAP brick wall?

If there was one, I don't remember seeing any good plays coming out of it. I hope there was a plan, because failing to plan is planning to fail as everyone knows.

From the outside, it looked to me like some were just going to hope Trump wouldn't appeal the last SNAP decision from lower courts and would just fund it fully. I think that's unlikely, unless he got visited in the night by Thanksgiving ghosts.

Barring spectral intervention, if Trump did appeal, the hope might have been that the Supreme Court would rule against him. I admit I don't know which way they would have gone. But they tend to agree with him most of the time.

Meanwhile, people were going to go hungry. If ever there was a need for a plan to prevent something, it's that. The compromise does that.

Personally, as I understand it, I think we got the best win we could expect. People have food through September of next year. We strengthened our ownership of the affordability issue. We pushed the ownership of the health care premium spike to Republicans. The current compromise only lasts until January 30th when the government can shut down again. And I certainly hope it won't.

If we could have planned this outcome, it would have been a pretty good plan.

I think we should take the win and not try to turn it into a loss. If folks choose to make us feel like we lost, then I'd like an explanation of the practical path to victory we missed taking. I'm not talking about accepting the prospect of hungry people, accepting federal workers going without pay, and making fierce-sounding YouTubes and tweets. I'd like an explanation of how we would have avoided hunger, gotten federal workers paid, and somehow gotten the Republicans to capitulate on the premium subsidies.



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Freddie

(9,998 posts)
4. Use this to show exactly how evil Republicans are
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:43 PM
Monday

Proof again that Republicans will. not. negotiate. This is the party that once claimed “bipartisanship is date rape.” This is a major disappointment but we can’t just throw in the towel and let them win the midterms. We need to remind people that Republicans were going to extreme lengths to STARVE PEOPLE rather than give a little on the healthcare issue. They’d rather throw thousands out of work, refuse to pay the ones still working, and disrupt vital air travel rather than help people. We have to turn this disappointment around and show the people who Republicans really are. In their minds, working together to help Americans is date rape.

Walleye

(43,157 posts)
6. Yes, we were never going to shame the Republicans into doing the right thing. They have no shame, only an orange Jesus.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:46 PM
Monday

2naSalit

(98,843 posts)
12. So they can be...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:56 PM
Monday

Educated while they are eating. Consider better ways to make that happen.

Hunger is a horrible thing, been there done that and anyone who thinks it's not as serious as the ACA crisis, they've never gone hungry for more than a few hours.

I understand that communities and organizations were stepping up but it's not enough, not for the population of citizens who are in need, those who have been for a long time and those who have recently joined the ranks.



tritsofme

(19,727 posts)
8. Some of these brave warriors were willing to fight to the last federal workers home is foreclosed and down to the last
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:48 PM
Monday

starving child.

I guess it makes for a more exciting afternoon of cable news.

lapfog_1

(31,423 posts)
10. yup some people were going to go hungry
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:50 PM
Monday

and travel was going to be disrupted.
And the national parks were going to fill up with garbage.

We had a huge win just a week ago... MAGA ( many SNAP families are MAGA ) was turning against Trump ( turns out they are all a bunch of socialists when it comes to THEIR benefits ).

And now that's gone. Did the health care costs of millions on the ACA get saved? Nope.

What was all the shutdown for? What the FUCK DID WE WIN? A promise on a VOTE by the Senate for a 1 year extension? A vote that we will likely lose? Even if the vote passes... do you think the House will pass it and Trump will sign it into law?

Tell me again how we are winning?

mgardener

(2,220 posts)
11. As somebody who volunteers
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:53 PM
Monday

At a food shelf, something needed to happen.
My husband and I spent 2 hrs Sat morning buying meat at local stores
Our next truck is due on the 18th.
We had fishsticks and hot dogs left.

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