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demmiblue

(38,941 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:46 PM Monday

Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA...

Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA promise that "8 of us are sticking our neck out that you're going to keep your word. I hope you will. He said 'I assure you I will,'" Durbin says just now


Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA promise that "8 of us are sticking our neck out that you're going to keep your word. I hope you will. He said 'I assure you I will,'" Durbin says just now

Burgess Everett (@burgessev.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T17:59:29.093Z

Whoa -- he promised to deliver a vote that will do nothing?

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T18:34:19.985Z

Sanders: That is a totally meaningless gesture. You can get 100 votes here and it won't mean anything because the House is not going to take it up.

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T01:23:17.152Z
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Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA... (Original Post) demmiblue Monday OP
Oh for the absolute love of god. Irish_Dem Monday #1
Lol I am with you Mr.WeRP Monday #4
OK, I'll do it for you. ananda Monday #13
Thanks. Irish_Dem Monday #18
I am running out of words in the dictionary to describe the state of affairs, yellow dahlia Monday #34
So we will now have to use mute blasphemy. ananda Monday #40
Twain noted that cursing sometime provides a relief "denied even to prayer" ... eppur_se_muova Monday #55
Love Twain... bigly! ananda Monday #58
The only words we got some days are profanity. Irish_Dem Monday #45
Indeed. yellow dahlia Monday #53
This past Trick or Treat I was passing out candy and saw a couple of kids wearing that mask. Irish_Dem Monday #54
I feel the same Celerity Monday #59
This is why real negotiations include the House *and* the Senate. OrwellwasRight Monday #2
And, typically, the President. nt mr715 Monday #56
All righty then Autumn Monday #3
LOL leftstreet Monday #5
A promise from a republican and $1 will buy you a cheap cup of coffee. CentralMass Monday #6
It won't even buy one the small senior coffee at mc d's. niyad Monday #17
I'm in Oregon. On the McD's app they have a daily deal to get any sized coffee for 99 cents. CentralMass Monday #37
Not in Dotards America. AZ8theist Monday #33
They really are living in some bygone era Prairie Gates Monday #7
Hey, Charlie Brown, er, I mean Sen. Durbin, how does it feel to have Lucy, er, I mean Sen. Thune MarineCombatEngineer Monday #8
I have magnetic paper Attilatheblond Monday #52
His word is meaningless quakerboy Monday #9
What you said reminds me of this scene Jspur Monday #15
The Dem politicians just keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results... Fil1957 Monday #10
Doing the same thing over & over is called "INSANITY" NotHardly Monday #29
Wow MustLoveBeagles Monday #11
Durbin has always been a feckless, weak zorbasd Monday #12
Kick dalton99a Monday #14
"Fight fire with fire" needs to get from CA to DC. Duncan Grant Monday #16
When will they ever learn? usonian Monday #19
Yep, and all the time Thune was thinking, "I can't believe Dick is falling for this BULLSHIT" bluestarone Monday #20
And then Lucy moved the football Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #21
Post removed Post removed Monday #22
Vote will never happen bpj62 Monday #23
☝️ CentralMass Monday #27
The way to negotiate with conservatives swong19104 Monday #24
What a Dick. miyazaki Monday #25
If we stipulate that Mr Durbin meant this... malthaussen Monday #26
This is exactly how they play the game. lees1975 Monday #28
This vote was extremely calculated. rubbersole Monday #30
Democrats apparently think we're in a Senate of gentlemen, not back stabbers. dem4decades Monday #31
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Senate maxsolomon Monday #32
I like that. Nice one! mjvpi Monday #36
It was on the Tee Vee this weekend maxsolomon Monday #46
Thune, Johnson and their fellow Republicans take their marching orders from Trump, he doesn't keep promises. sop Monday #35
Doesn't matter if Thune keeps his word. Sneederbunk Monday #38
I guess we all do age differently fujiyamasan Monday #39
What Bernie said! BlueKota Monday #41
Good grief, Charlie Brown...Lucy... Football. Yet again NewHendoLib Monday #42
Taking thune or any republican on their word for anything is completely foolish! ffr Monday #43
So sad Emile Monday #44
He said they will have a vote Bettie Monday #47
What a fucking sucker. Javaman Monday #48
Jeezuz Fucking Christ Dick - Head Whip - Durbin. LuvLoogie Monday #49
Note to Dick Durbin: DFW Monday #50
Took a hide last night blasting this crap FHRRK Monday #51
Thune may keep his word knowing the rest of Republiterrorists will not. Lucy pull out that football again! Clouds Passing Monday #57

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
34. I am running out of words in the dictionary to describe the state of affairs,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:03 PM
Monday

so I just keep inserting the F word.

So much for using our words...

ananda

(33,962 posts)
40. So we will now have to use mute blasphemy.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:26 PM
Monday

He didn't utter a word, but he exuded mute blasphemy from every pore.

- Autobiography of Mark Twain, Vol. 2 (2013)

eppur_se_muova

(40,530 posts)
55. Twain noted that cursing sometime provides a relief "denied even to prayer" ...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:00 PM
Monday

and felt that each home should have a room devoted only to cursing.

ananda

(33,962 posts)
58. Love Twain... bigly!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:26 PM
Monday

It might even be fun to make a curse wall
with words like "cockwomble" or
snollygoster.

yellow dahlia

(3,982 posts)
53. Indeed.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:34 PM
Monday

Some days I just start sputtering.

I have also taken to using my MacCaulay Culkin/Scream face often, as I watch the abominable being reported.

Irish_Dem

(77,782 posts)
54. This past Trick or Treat I was passing out candy and saw a couple of kids wearing that mask.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:39 PM
Monday

They were scary looking!
But yes that is how I feel most of the time. Like the scream mask.

OrwellwasRight

(5,305 posts)
2. This is why real negotiations include the House *and* the Senate.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:49 PM
Monday

But maybe none of the Congressional leaders even remember what real legislating is like…

CentralMass

(16,722 posts)
37. I'm in Oregon. On the McD's app they have a daily deal to get any sized coffee for 99 cents.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:21 PM
Monday

It is actually pretty good coffee ☕️

AZ8theist

(6,977 posts)
33. Not in Dotards America.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Monday

I don't but coffee, but it wouldn't surprise me if the price of a cup tops $15 bucks soon........

Prairie Gates

(6,796 posts)
7. They really are living in some bygone era
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:51 PM
Monday

The issue is this: will there be subsidies for the ACA?

The issue is not this: will there be a vote for subsidies for the ACA?

The Republicans framed the whole thing around the second point. The Democrats WE THOUGHT were sticking to the first point, but have turned out to have accepted the second point. The second point is completely useless.

Durbin's great "Whoa!" triumph here is getting a verbal confirmation on the second point, which is useless.

Fuck's sake, we're in the weeds and goddamn sinking.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
8. Hey, Charlie Brown, er, I mean Sen. Durbin, how does it feel to have Lucy, er, I mean Sen. Thune
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:53 PM
Monday

pull the football, er, I mean the "promise" of a vote just as you go to kick it?

Attilatheblond

(7,781 posts)
52. I have magnetic paper
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:27 PM
Monday

Thinking a bumper sticker needs to be printed:

"DEMs: Fucking stop playing football with Lucy! "

quakerboy

(14,657 posts)
9. His word is meaningless
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:55 PM
Monday

The deal is NOTHING.

Hi. I would like to buy your house for $1, but you keep the current mortgage debt and keep paying it. In return I will give you a chance to shoot a basketball at a hoop i've conveniently placed on a different continent. If you make that basket, I will agree to pay your mortgage for 12 months. Otherwise, I get the house, and you keep the debt. And If you miss, you still mow the lawn for the next 5 years as well.

He can keep his word, and it costs him nothing, because a vote is meaningless.

Jspur

(772 posts)
15. What you said reminds me of this scene
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:16 PM
Monday

from the movie "White Men Can't Jump" I feel Durbin would be Woody Harrelson's character in this scene.


Fil1957

(372 posts)
10. The Dem politicians just keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:56 PM
Monday

zorbasd

(504 posts)
12. Durbin has always been a feckless, weak
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:09 PM
Monday

POS.
Yeah, he's retiring with great free Healthcare for the rest of his life...I got mine, so f#ck you all...ha....ha

Duncan Grant

(8,842 posts)
16. "Fight fire with fire" needs to get from CA to DC.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:16 PM
Monday

This wasn’t just criminal incompetence it was a betrayal.

bluestarone

(20,756 posts)
20. Yep, and all the time Thune was thinking, "I can't believe Dick is falling for this BULLSHIT"
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:23 PM
Monday

Holy fuck!!

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

bpj62

(1,061 posts)
23. Vote will never happen
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:34 PM
Monday

If you think that Thune will expose Senate Republicans to a vote that will put them on the record for opposing the continuation of the subsidies, then I have a bridge to sell you. No way Thune will allow a vote to happen and create campaign ads for Democratic Senate candidates.
Thune did the math and realizes that all he has to do is wait out Durbin until next November and wait for the Democrats to remove Shumer either through a no confidence vote or a potential primary from AOC. Thune will be rewarded by Trump for being a good boy. However, Trump will still demand that the filibuster be removed because he has a laundry list of legislation that cannot be passed via reconciliation.

The Democratic leadership got played and Trump knows he holds all the cards.

swong19104

(560 posts)
24. The way to negotiate with conservatives
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:39 PM
Monday

is to whisper in their ears, “You feel that tickle? That’s a shiv. It’s there until the votes are in, in our favor. If there is any problem, well, you can live with one functioning kidney. Assuming you don’t bleed out.”

They have no honor. We’ve seen that time and again. So don’t expect them to honor their words.

malthaussen

(18,314 posts)
26. If we stipulate that Mr Durbin meant this...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:40 PM
Monday

... then I suggest that it is more evidence that we need these fossils out of government (and for the record, I am a fossil myself). They are playing by rules that have been obsolete for twenty years at least. We need realists in the Democratic Party who understand exactly what it is they are dealing with, not old cronies who think the world still operates under their old-boy unspoken rules.

-- Mal

lees1975

(6,842 posts)
28. This is exactly how they play the game.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:47 PM
Monday

It's called, "Lying through their teeth." Durbin, one of the Senators from my state, just bought into exactly another lie.



rubbersole

(10,864 posts)
30. This vote was extremely calculated.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:51 PM
Monday

It just seems that every "too clever by half" moves the Dem politicians make ends up being more of an advantage for the wealthy rather than for working folks. Having the government shut down benefited project 2025 more than anything. Federal workers need to get back on the job before Russell Vought's destruction gets any easier.

sop

(16,848 posts)
35. Thune, Johnson and their fellow Republicans take their marching orders from Trump, he doesn't keep promises.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Monday

Sneederbunk

(16,968 posts)
38. Doesn't matter if Thune keeps his word.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:23 PM
Monday

The House will not allow it to be brought to the floor.

ffr

(23,309 posts)
43. Taking thune or any republican on their word for anything is completely foolish!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:37 PM
Monday


How many times have they gone back on their words? How many times have they screwed this country over after saying they wouldn't? How many times will it take before people take republicans for the liars and cheats that they are? They are not people who are capable of shame from their shameful actions.

And I can kind of see why they are so shameless, when democrats fall for the same bullshit over and over again. All they have to do is lie to the media and the American people and democrats cave. Sigh!

Bettie

(19,116 posts)
47. He said they will have a vote
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:50 PM
Monday

they will and the subsidies will be voted down....wow, what an ask, give them the very thing they want.

Will those 8 vote no on the subsidies as a favor to Thune? Maybe.

Javaman

(64,878 posts)
48. What a fucking sucker.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:55 PM
Monday

Fuck you durbin, this is what you will be forever remembered for.

You should have retired BEFORE the vote

For fuck sakes. Have they not yet cleared the bullshit out of their eyes from the last time the repukes promised them???

LuvLoogie

(8,404 posts)
49. Jeezuz Fucking Christ Dick - Head Whip - Durbin.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:14 PM
Monday

Your constituents, women are getting shot, dragged out of their cars, and abducted in the streets of Chicago by armed, masked racist militia hired by Shit Mouth. I hope your pension gets deleted.

DFW

(59,342 posts)
50. Note to Dick Durbin:
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:17 PM
Monday

Marie Antoinette stuck her neck out, too. It was the last thing she ever did.

FHRRK

(1,302 posts)
51. Took a hide last night blasting this crap
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:19 PM
Monday

So I will say thank you Durbin, you did an excellent job negotiating from a position of power and all of the Centrist Dems should be thanked profusely for taking care of their constituents.

Clouds Passing

(6,508 posts)
57. Thune may keep his word knowing the rest of Republiterrorists will not. Lucy pull out that football again!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:34 PM
Monday
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