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bluestarone

(20,756 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:18 PM Monday

I cannot for one minute believe that these Democrats that decided to do this, didn't proceed further

To DEMAND the House 100% agree to vote on ACA, BEFORE they decide, or deal is off! I mean WTF?

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I cannot for one minute believe that these Democrats that decided to do this, didn't proceed further (Original Post) bluestarone Monday OP
Believe it, because they didn't see any need to do it. Autumn Monday #1
Every Congressional Democrat should take a walk down memory lane. gab13by13 Monday #2
Here is a question: if, hypothetically, they were complicit controlled opposition, what would RockRaven Monday #3
Not sure, but maybe put words in this bill that state if the HOUSE does not bring it to the floor bluestarone Monday #4
Ding-Ding! ThreeNoSeep Monday #9
Senator Ron Wyden MontanaMama Monday #5
Sad to say i would NOT bet anything on what they would do. bluestarone Monday #6
DIN's don't demand they roll over. republianmushroom Monday #7
The one chit Republicans have the Democrats will never be able to beat... appmanga Monday #8
If the House doesn't hold a vote, then we're back to the standoff that most here seem to be craving, and then Sogo Monday #10
Agree! It's on bluestarone Monday #11
Approximately 7.3 million people will lose ACA coverage in 2026 if the enhanced premium tax credits are not renewed, and Emile Monday #12
How would extending the shutdown along with the suffering of federal workers tritsofme Monday #14
Again...what does extending the shutdown accomplish if it will not yield concessions from Republicans? tritsofme Monday #13
The problem as i see it is, The WAY it ended. We could have ended it a lot different way. bluestarone Monday #15
I absolutely agree with you there. It was not handled well, the plug should have been pulled after a week. tritsofme Monday #16
Now Knowing the way it has ended, I would agree. bluestarone Monday #17

gab13by13

(30,624 posts)
2. Every Congressional Democrat should take a walk down memory lane.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:24 PM
Monday

Krasnov is on a revenge tour and he hates Barack Obama, especially for the beatdown at the correspondence dinner.

Krasnov will go to the ends of the earth to kill Obamacare.

Obamacare will be history soon and so will 50,000 Americans who will die within a year.

RockRaven

(18,349 posts)
3. Here is a question: if, hypothetically, they were complicit controlled opposition, what would
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:25 PM
Monday

they have done differently from what they did in fact?

bluestarone

(20,756 posts)
4. Not sure, but maybe put words in this bill that state if the HOUSE does not bring it to the floor
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:30 PM
Monday

then THIS vote in the Senate will be NULL and VOID.

ThreeNoSeep

(247 posts)
9. Ding-Ding!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:27 PM
Monday

But hey, let's just "give the process a chance"-"Keep our powder dry"-"enjoy the 5-dimensional game of Thumb War" or whatever.

MontanaMama

(24,586 posts)
5. Senator Ron Wyden
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:42 PM
Monday

has been sound the alarm that rethugs are sneaking a national abortion ban into this funding bill. Any bets on if Schumer and friends will roll over for that too?

appmanga

(1,301 posts)
8. The one chit Republicans have the Democrats will never be able to beat...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:01 PM
Monday

...is they don't give a damn about anybody but themselves and their filthy rich overlords. And anybody who believes Schumer's Disgraceful Eight, which included his OWN WHIP (Durbin) simply mutinied him, I have bridge in Brooklyn that's an absolute bargain.

When they look at the polls and see they're doing worse with voter the Republicans, a fair amount of that total comes from fellow Democrats, fellow Democrats who are tired and frustrated of things like what ended the shutdown: capitulation with no meaningful forward to achieve what the resistance was about.

These Democrats weren't willing to let strong electoral victories soak in as leverage before throwing in the towel less than a week after those results.

Thune will give them their vote, and will be another act in an ongoing piece of Kabuki theater.

Sogo

(6,822 posts)
10. If the House doesn't hold a vote, then we're back to the standoff that most here seem to be craving, and then
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:29 PM
Monday

the Rs own the expiration of the ACA extension even more....

bluestarone

(20,756 posts)
11. Agree! It's on
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:06 PM
Monday

The republicans shoulder. Very hard for any voter, to blame this on Democrats. Might be a plus for us in November 2026.

Emile

(39,084 posts)
12. Approximately 7.3 million people will lose ACA coverage in 2026 if the enhanced premium tax credits are not renewed, and
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:13 PM
Monday

an estimated 4.8 million will become uninsured.

I hope the 8 can sleep tonight.

tritsofme

(19,727 posts)
14. How would extending the shutdown along with the suffering of federal workers
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:26 PM
Monday

and the uncertainty of SNAP families Trump wants to starve, save insurance for those millions of people?

Republicans aren’t offering concessions, if they want to blow up the insurance market and cause mass suffering, they will have to make that case to voters next year, and own every bit of it.

tritsofme

(19,727 posts)
13. Again...what does extending the shutdown accomplish if it will not yield concessions from Republicans?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:17 PM
Monday

It just creates more pain for millions of federal workers, many of whom are late on mortgage/rent/car/credit card payments and uncertainty for the SNAP families Donald Trump is trying to starve.

Republicans control the fate of the ACA subsidies regardless, what is the point of insisting on the continued suffering that a shutdown causes?

bluestarone

(20,756 posts)
15. The problem as i see it is, The WAY it ended. We could have ended it a lot different way.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:33 PM
Monday

1) deciding together with all facts. ( not causing Democrats to, like cross a picket line) That's the look i see. They ended this possibly the worst way possible. If Johnson does not allow a vote on ACA,. THAT can be pinned on REPUBLICANS, which would be a plus for midterms. This could have been done in a way Democrats TOGETHER end this shutdown, and ALL get credit for doing it.

tritsofme

(19,727 posts)
16. I absolutely agree with you there. It was not handled well, the plug should have been pulled after a week.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Monday
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