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GreatGazoo

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:51 PM Monday

How Spotify Changed Music: "Pleasant and Ignorable. It's Music as Content, Not Art."

Remember when computers were going to give us more time and tools to create art and music? So how did we get to "Isn't great that AI can create art and music"?!

The recording industry was born around 1900. The wide adoption of player pianos set in motion the first copyright laws for recorded music, eg player piano rolls. Prior to that music was treated as a service -- bands, not tune writers or lawyers, were paid. It was very common to put new lyrics with well known tunes. Prime example: The US National Anthem is new lyrics sung to an existing tune. Francis Scott Key wrote the lyrics but the music was already a popular British song written by John Stafford Smith "To Anacreon in Heaven" aka "The Anacreontic Song".

Turn of the Century technology made 2-minutes and then 4-minutes the upper limits for how long a recorded song could be since those were the limits of Edison's phonographic cylinders. Flash forward 120 years and we see copyrights and technology changing music again, and not for the better:

Spotify is the most popular music streaming service in the world. While its algorithmic recommendations aren't necessarily the reason, its reach has meant that hundreds of millions of people are being fed a steady diet of music curated by a machine. Spotify's goal is to keep you listening no matter what. In her book Mood Machine, journalist Liz Pelly recounts a story told to her by a former Spotify employee in which Daniel Ek said, "our only competitor is silence."

According to this employee, Spotify leadership didn't see themselves as a music company, but as a time filler. The employee explained that, "the vast majority of music listeners, they're not really interested in listening to music per se. They just need a soundtrack to a moment in their day." Simply providing a soundtrack to your day might seem innocent enough, but it informs how Spotify's algorithm works. Its goal isn't to help you discover new music, its goal is simply to keep you listening for as long as possible. It serves up the safest songs possible to keep you from pressing stop.

The company even went so far as to partner with music library services and production companies under a program called Perfect Fit Content, or PFC. This saw the creation of fake or "ghost" artists that flooded Spotify with songs that were specifically designed to be pleasant and ignorable. It's music as content, not art. [...] Artists, especially new ones trying to break through, actually started changing how they composed to play better in the algorithmically driven streaming era. Songs got shorter, albums got longer, and intros went away. The hook got pushed to the front of the song to try to grab listeners' attention immediately, and things like guitar solos all but disappeared from pop music. The palette of sounds artists pulled from got smaller, arrangements became more simplified, pop music flattened.


https://www.theverge.com/column/815744/music-recommendation-algorithms
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How Spotify Changed Music: "Pleasant and Ignorable. It's Music as Content, Not Art." (Original Post) GreatGazoo Monday OP
add to the mix music that is not much worth hearing lol. cut and paste, loops, pitch correction, quantization etc nt msongs Monday #1
I've Used Quantizing ProfessorGAC Monday #3
Muzak BluesRunTheGame Monday #2

msongs

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1. add to the mix music that is not much worth hearing lol. cut and paste, loops, pitch correction, quantization etc nt
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:03 PM
Monday

ProfessorGAC

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3. I've Used Quantizing
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:52 PM
Monday

The rest though, no chance.
I play my own drum parts (electronic kit MIDI'd to a much better sounding keyboard), but I'm a piano & guitar player.
So, I've time corrected drum parts, but in sections, not the whole track.
I see this as much different than pitch correction & looping.
The drummer I worked with for a couple decades died, so I'm all I've got.
I consider this much less egregious than correcting things that could be done by simply doing another take. Pitch correction in particular. That really bugs me. One is either a good singer or they are not.

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