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Coventina

(28,905 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:49 PM Monday

Bruce Springsteen's Father Complicates a Powerful American Narrative

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Politicians, academics, community leaders and others have been sounding the alarm that men are in trouble: high unemployment, alcohol and opioid addiction, social alienation, a pervasive sense of hopelessness and dislocation, suicide. A decade ago, the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton coined the term “deaths of despair” to describe the painful consequences of these trends among the white working classes. Richard Reeves has since demonstrated that these deaths are increasing at higher rates for men than for women.

These important findings have since been misconstrued, sometimes willfully, to advance the idea that the way to heal American men is to return the nation’s economy, as well as its gender dynamics, to some halcyon midcentury ideal. Doug Springsteen’s life illustrates something different.

From the late 1940s to the late 1960s, throughout Bruce’s childhood, Doug held a variety of jobs, including driving a truck and working at a rug mill in Freehold, N.J., and the nearby Ford Motor plant. These were the kind of jobs nostalgically extolled as ennobling and empowering, jobs that produced something of value; when he held them, they allowed him to raise his family in modest but real security.

Doug Springsteen also had an intact marriage with a loving woman, and an unquestioned position as the head of the family. And he did it all decades before the decline of civic life we see today: the dismantling of organized labor and the workplace community it fostered, the drift away from houses of worship and social clubs, and the arrival of a flood of opioids. He lived in the supposed heyday of American working-class prosperity. Despite all this, he suffered in the same ways — feeling undervalued, becoming angry, withdrawn, defeated — as so many men today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/08/opinion/bruce-springsteen-father-men-america.html?

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Interesting read.

Challenges the "notion" that bringing back grinding factory jobs and coal mining while women stay home raising a baseball team - worth of kids might not be the solution.

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BluesRunTheGame

(1,893 posts)
1. Richard Reeves isn't suggesting that we bring back factory jobs...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:20 PM
Monday

…or return women to those traditional roles.

Here’s a quote from his substack:

“ We need a massive national effort to get men to move into jobs in the growing fields of health, education, administration, and literacy (HEAL), equivalent to the successful campaign to get women into STEM.”

Another quote:

“ Getting men into HEAL would be good for them (because there are many jobs there), good for the professions (because they face labor shortages), and good for the boys and men using those services (because they often prefer a male provider). It would be a win-win-win.”

https://ofboysandmen.substack.com/p/men-can-heal

BluesRunTheGame

(1,893 posts)
3. Check the last sentence in the first paragraph of your OP.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:42 PM
Monday

Reeves is a Brookings Scholar and the founder of the American Institute for Boys and Men.

Coventina

(28,905 posts)
4. The author doesn't accuse Reeves of saying that factory / mining should be brought back.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:46 PM
Monday

But there are plenty in the manosphere who do.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,893 posts)
5. I couldn't read the whole article.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:55 PM
Monday

I don’t have a subscription.

Reeves is the guy everyone on the left quotes when this subject comes up. His book was on Barack Obama’s summer reading list a couple years ago. Chris Murphy has mentioned him. Scott Galloway and Anthony Scaramuci both refer to his work.

eppur_se_muova

(40,530 posts)
6. Maybe some emphasis should be put on the role of social/peer pressure put on men to live up to unrealistic expectations
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:56 PM
Monday

at a time when fulfilling those expectations was/is well on its way to being outlawed by forces beyond their control.

It's like feeling desperation and despair because you can't stop earthquakes from coming, except shadowy orgs/corps out there are deliberately producing all manner of social "earthquakes", and no one realizes it until it's basically too late.

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