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In It to Win It

(11,997 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:53 PM Monday

Democrats Were Winning the Shutdown. Why Did They Fold? - Ezra Klein @ NYT

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Back in September, when I was reporting an article on whether Democrats should shut down the government, I kept hearing the same warning from veterans of past shutdown fights: The president controls the bully pulpit. He controls, to some degree, which parts of the government stay open and which parts close. It is very, very hard for the opposition party to win a shutdown.

Which makes it all the more remarkable that Democrats were winning this one. Polls showed that most voters blamed Republicans, not Democrats, for the current shutdown — perhaps because President Trump was bulldozing the East Wing of the White House rather than negotiating to reopen the government. Trump’s approval rating has been falling — in CNN’s tracking poll, it dipped into the 30s for the first time since he took office again. And last week, Democrats wrecked Republicans in the elections and Trump blamed his party’s losses in part on the shutdown. Democrats were riding higher than they have been in months.

Then, over the weekend, a group of Senate Democrats broke ranks and negotiated a deal to end the shutdown in return for — if we’re being honest — very little.

The guts of the deal are this: Food assistance — both SNAP and WIC, I was told — will get a bit more funding, and there are a few other modest concessions on spending levels elsewhere in the government. Laid-off federal workers will be rehired and furloughed federal workers given back pay. Most of the government is funded only until the end of January. (So get ready: We could be doing this again in a few months.) Most gallingly, the deal does nothing to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits over which Democrats ostensibly shut down the government in the first place. All it offers is a promise from Republicans to hold a vote on the tax credits in the future. Of the dozen or so House and Senate Democrats I spoke to over the past 24 hours, every one expected that vote to fail.






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Democrats Were Winning the Shutdown. Why Did They Fold? - Ezra Klein @ NYT (Original Post) In It to Win It Monday OP
Personally, PXR-5 Monday #1
Yes they would have. kacekwl Monday #2

PXR-5

(552 posts)
1. Personally,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:58 PM
Monday

I think it was more about the airports, things were (and still are) getting pretty bad.
Now send in Thanksgiving, the public would've gone nuts.

kacekwl

(8,773 posts)
2. Yes they would have.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:14 PM
Monday

Will people thank democrats for making their lives better ? No they will blame them and praise trump for negotiating a great deal reopening the government.

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