to listen to an alternative view…..

what the 8 Democrats did was contrary to the vast majority of Congressional Democrats.

Lawrence is a nice guy but his goal in life is to out-scoop Rachel or Nicolle.

different from Maddow and Wallace. He knows the inner workings of the Senate from many angles.
I thought his analysis was interesting and plausible. You?

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Tell me, is Lawrence owned by Big Airline too?

spear into the turf and declared no way would you watch.

For loyalty to the party? Some of us choose to get our news through print journalism rather than TV talking heads. That is our decision. I know that I’m far better off for it.

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What’s his plan to get protections for pre existing conditions back when the ACA ends? What’s his plan to get 60 seats in the senate again to pass a new ACA after it’s gutted given the inherent advantages the GOP has with the senate?

Your point?

There was no good outcome here.

People need to stop expecting Democrats to work miracles when they give them absolutely no power in the federal government.

WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE HAVING THESE DEBATES IF DEMOCRATS WERE IN CHARGE RIGHT NOW -- PERIOD.

Like McConnell has done for years, even when in the minority and despite the fact that his party's policies are extremely unpopular? Those sort of miracles?

Yes, I fully expect Democrats to do exactly that.

Democrats don't get to do that because we have to """give people a reason to vote FOR someone, not just a reason to vote AGAINST your opponent!"""



What a crock of horseshit that still is.

Also, none of this makes mention of how McConnell's plan all along was to reshape the judiciary, whereas we had dumbass so-called allies on the left telling us not to threaten them with the Supreme Court in 2016.

the rest of the media will not touch is notw the drfinition of an apologist,

You learn something new every day.

I'm not about to congratulate them. Every Congressional Democrat that I have listened to today called the agreement horrible.

Such as;

“Make no mistake, if this bill passes, it will lead to New Jerseyans paying far more for their healthcare, when they are already paying more and more for everything,” “Making this deal is malpractice.” Mikie Sherrill.

Should I bash Mikie for calling what the super 8 did, malpractice?

We need fresh blood. No I am not saying anything about voting. We vote for Democrats always. But we can use the primary election to assemble good teams

I saw condemnation across the democratic spectrum — many liberal and centrist dems see this for what it is.

like a Fresh Perspective instead of the Doom and Gloom.

Lawrence O'Donnell is Not an "apologist". He's a brilliant Liberal Political Commentator, who doesn't deserve to be Insulted.

TY

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Mahalo, LMPV

It was not apologist. It was refreshingly truthful and full of O'Donnell's usual common sense approach.

refreshingly truthful and full of O'Donnell's usual common sense.

who got their jobs back with back pay, along with more SNAP, both of which are not nothing. And the historical fact that absolutely no minority party has ever won all its demands to end a government shutdown, not once.

but he did present some arguements I hadn't considered & he did calm me down.

You MUST watch Lawrence O's show tonight.

Dem (except for the 8 cavers plus Spanberger) is and was against the cave-in, including those in our leadership, in the House, in the Senate, Governors, etc, and also most all Dem candidates running in 2026, yet Lawrence's posturing yields the stance that they all are the ones who are wrong.

The Dem resistance against the cave-in spans our entire ideological spectrum as well, from left to our furthest to the centre and centre right members.

Hard pass on Lawrence's cleverclogs revisionist attempts.

and you just confirmed my decision.

that we were out of our fucking minds.

Don’t miss him one bit.

His comments and prospective is always worth listening to. I would have liked a better outcome of the shutdown, but it still isn't the final result. The House has to agree to it, and Trump has to sign it.
It could change again.
In any event, I'll withhold my judgement until I see how this all plays out.
No condemnation of Lawrence here.

I'll be watching soon

supper now.

TY again!

for tRump to be replaced by their hand picked puppet jd it's maybelline vance (and not a moment sooner). Likely after the midterms.

You say we should "STOP bashing Dems!" Which ones? The ones apologizing for the surrender or the ones criticizing it like Newsom and Pritzker?

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Unlike others, Lawrence has been in the room where it happens. I trust Lawrence in this

@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com: With Trump's shutdown ending, Dems are closer than ever to forcing Epstein files release youtu.be/Eqe0Suhoats?...

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I trust Lawrence and I respect him.

I don't trust or respect podcasters, talking heads, MAGAt sources, or others who sound off half assed, uninformed, and disrespectful.

NONE are up for re-election upcoming
2 have already announced their retirement
They bent the knee
Shutdown accomplished squat!

House giving Congresswoman what she should have received 50 days ago?
How many others have flipped negating the one vote in releasing said files?
Chicken counting before eggs hatched scenario

Sorry, but I Will believe when I see it.

How about getting voters to blame Republicans and throw those bums out of office?

I seriously doubt the ACA subsidies will pass and I would not be surprised if Trump fires those brought back again after the dust settles.

Next Feburary this will happen again....

And by extension disrespecting the 39 who did the right thing. You choose the collaborationists over those who represent the people.
You want to silence the majority of Democrats who oppose Trump, while defending those who bent the knee to him. Those are your values but not the values of the Democratic Party. I stand with the majority of my party, not Trump and his enablers.

Why we should enjoy the yellow rain coming from the sky.

Maybe we should go watch Fox and hear why Democrats finally made a good choice in surrendering to trump. That will surely also help us feel better.

Sometimes I’m not sure what No Bashing Dems Crew has as their endgame. Do we just passively digest what the Party, its representatives, and its pundits put in front of us? If so, I often find myself at a loss as to which Dems to side with. Or is the challenge not to challenge any Dem decision?

We exist to pay homage to every single Democrat, and if we expect them to represent us, as the Constitution mandates, we are out of line. If we must choose between the majority or the few that side with Trump, it is the latter that always have priority. They serve the King, and so must we.

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