What I think this shows is that we have the people. But we need to change the leadership.

All that matters is their political affiliation.

This is the response that we've spent years training people to have.

What Schumer did was orchestrate bent knees.
That has to be unforgivable.

I know, I know..there's bigger fish to fry, we weren't gonna get what we wanted from the jump, in 2 months we will be right back here, I'll get over it
Etc
Etc
Etc
I know all of it, and that's all fine.

But, NOT ONLY were we ready to take the pain WE KNOW was happening, but we backed that play LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.

Why?
BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE RIGHT; hell, even MTG was on our side for this one.

THATS the part that's infuriating.

which likely means that there are more Democrats who agreed with the caving in.

It's sad and frustrating.

their common thread is not the airline pac, but that they will not face their voters next year.

that is the "game" of politics

I mean sure, many of you will die from lack of coverage go bankrupt from your medical bills, but Democratic politicians are really going to have a strong issue to run against Republicans with in 2026...

And don't give me that 34 stuff, the party could have stuck together, leadership was aware of what these 8+1 were doing and let them.

"Hey, I realize you're dead, but think of the bright side, I got to keep my job more easily." That's what this feels like.

It passed 60-40, which means 40 Senators voted against it. Why are you posting this lie?

Senate passes bill to reopen the government as 8 Democrats join with Republicans to send it to the House

The legislation would keep the government funded through Jan. 30, without extending ACA funds slated to expire. It now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-bill-reopen-government-sends-to-house-rcna243120

WASHINGTON — The Senate passed legislation Monday night to reopen the government and end the record-long shutdown after eight Democrats broke with their party and joined Republicans to break the logjam.The vote was 60-40, with every Republican except Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky voting in favor of the measure.

The measure now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday to pass the package and send it to President Donald Trump, who said Monday that he supports the bipartisan deal. Senate passage came after a long vote series to reject several amendments and package the components of a deal into one.

The legislation includes a "minibus" of three full-year appropriations bills, including a full funding of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, benefits through the end of next September, and keeps much of the government open on a short-term basis through Jan. 30.

But in a major concession for Democrats, the deal does not include an extension of enhanced subsidies under Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, after Republicans held firm against extending those funds beyond this year. That means more than 20 million Americans could see their premiums spike next year.

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Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 1st Session (2025)

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_119_1.htm

If there was ANY way to actually block final passage, then then some or all of the 39 Democratic Senate caucus members who voted No on the procedural 'cave-in' Sunday vote and voted No on the Monday final passage vote would have stopped the unanimous consent procedural votes from happening and forced roll call votes (which would have passed, like all the others I listed, 60-40 via roll call).

Once the Sunday procedural vote passed via the Cave-In 8's capitulation, the entire thing passing on Monday and going to the House was a fait accompli. End of story.

And most airliners that have crashed and killed hundreds of passengers only had one defect or malfunction.

And this cave in (and that's precisely what this was) didn't require a whole phalanx of traitors, only eight.

In the end, it doesn't take much to sink a ship, or crash a plane, or capitulate to tyranny. All that is required in one defect or act of betrayal in the right spot or order.

for a final tally of 60 Yea - 40 No on both the Sunday 'cave-in' procedural vote and the Monday actual final passage vote.

See post 14 for full documentation:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220795171#post14

And family members who have not been paid for over a month.

If you are not hungry and if you can put money together for basics, then I guess you can take a strong position against this deal. There are others who cannot because they have no buffer.

We are dealing with an oligarchy fighting ruthlessly for the status quo. They do not care about the rest of us. They do not care about the sick or the hungry or the vulnerable. They can cause the government to remain closed indefinitely.

At some point we would have had to make some sort of deal. Our power is to win as many battles as possible now to preserve as much of our government as we can, and expose these people. As more and more of us wake up, collectively we will kick them to the curb this coming November.

What is the purpose of weakening our democratic members of Congress, who know the nature of this beast, for being practical in their decisions? The oligarchs do not want healthcare for all -- they want total privatization and will hold out indefinitely for it.

I am proud of the Democratic Party. The DINO 8 (especially Fetid man) are NOT Dems, and I wish people would just STOP blaming the real Democratic Party!

And thats being both generous and also with the knowledge that there is NO sure way at this juncture to know which of them it would be.

The ones that did this did it with the cooperation of those that didn't. Especially the leadership. They did not just turn on 35 senate Dems who told them NO, No way, no how, this is NOT ok, this will have a cost for you.

And its much like looking at the police. Maybe its only one cop in 4 that participates in personal domestic violence and takes joy beating down a insufficiently cowed "suspect" or takes bribes or enjoys harassing women. But the other 3 have their back, thus completing the corruption

When I start hearing word of the 7 losing committee assignments and not being invited to meetings and treated like a deserter... When I hear that this situation has had any actual consequence with the other senators. When they are pariahs, losing the quiet influence they are counting on as unofficial lobbyists for post senate income, or when they move to remove Schumer from his unwarranted position of authority for failing the caucus and the country.. thats when I will believe they stood with us, they are fighting for us.

Till then.. I lay blame for this at the feet of EVERY single sitting US senator. Because they did it together. Every D, Every R, and both I's.

it didn't need anyone but him and the 8. And maybe the airlines and their donations.

I don't believe this was a case where all the others are complicit.

Vote Count:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2025/11/11/senate-government-shutdown-vote-count/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f007

Archive Link: https://archive.ph/Gkzkm

Because of air travel, they don't want to admit it though. It would sound bad that air travel takes priority over health care and SNAP.
Don't mess with people that have disposable income...

It's about the donor money. The Schumers, the Clintons, and the Durbins of the party know that they have to keep the donors happy to fuel the fight but they also should have let the AOC's, the Stacey Abrams, the David Hoggs and other effective progressive voices, of which there are many more today, be considered. I think that they're hoping that the NoKings momentum combined with MAGA getting screwed over by SNAP cuts, tariff induced price increases, DOGE cuts shutting down local hospitals, pharmacies, and even Walmarts, that if DEMs look like they cooperated in reopening the government, and Repubs cut services to MAGA world, that they'll let the Repubs expose themselves to the backlash from their constituents.

Add to that the release of the Epstein files. And it all depends on how they move their pieces and deliver their message going forward.