Never leads to voter apathy...

Im not understanding how people aren’t inspired by that, especially with Lawerence’s amazing commentary last night.

NOT!

Don't Dems know how bullies work/think when they beat someone up?

In our politics bullying is respected/rewarded and the bullied, much less so. So there’s that.

now saying he doesn't know if or when he'll bring up the ACA extension, which means never, and when people can't afford health ins. anymore and the economy really, really tanks, people are going to point their fingers at the repukes, this is what Congressional Democrats should be hammering 24/7 far and wide.

is somehow a win for Democrats!

But, the whole thing did rid many of us of that pesky feeling of hope after the election.

The deal forces Johnson to pass the two Democratic funding bills that Senate Democrats have been trying to bring to the floor for months and that were finally passed last night, and a humiliated Trump will be made to sign them into law.

SNAP and the VA will be fully funded until the end of the fiscal year (September 30, 2026), with an increase in appropriations to SNAP.

Republicans lost the threat of hungry kids and abandoned veterans as a bargaining chip in the next go-around in January.

And the Epstein files will once again become the top story.

Sorry, but Hasan's amplification of Republican talking points, while hardly surprising, is incredibly misinformed.

Can't see the forest for the trees.

Getting ACA subsidies with republican control wasn't going to happen. Expecting otherwise is delusional.

You have the promise of a vote, which will fail, but in the end you either have republicans on record or they dont have the vote and you hammer them with it. It will also cause internal strife with folks like MTG.

You also have snap funded, as you said and plenty of chances is to revisit the fight.

Trumps poll numbers were crished during it as well, and those won't recover just from it ending.


They shut down the government for 40 days, the longest shutdown ever. They couldn't keep it shut down forever. Will people lose Healthcare? Yes. Will people die? Yes. Those things were decided when Republicans took power, nothing democrats could do to stop it.

That statement alone tells me so much.

Trump does not feel anything. Nada. Zip. Zilch. So, he does not know HOW TO BE humiliated. He's a psychopath bully. He will sign bills and take full credit for it all.

(that had been stuck in committee for months) that not only secures SNAP until the end of the fiscal year, but also increases its funding?

All for the guy who was holding out for a "clean CR".

NB
I never allow Republican narratives to shape Democratic messaging, most especially so when the Republican narrative is counterfactual to reality, as it frequently is.

He and his fellow thugs know they kneecapped the Dems. There’s zero humiliation on their side of the aisle.

The opposite actually

but it is also a Republican talking point.

Sorry, but I don't allow Republicans to frame the Democratic message, especially not when the Republican message is counterfactual to reality, as it frequently is.

Truth is truth.

What are we supposed to do now? Sing the praises of the glorious brave 8 that bucked the party?

He doesn't know how to be humiliated, so he (himself) won't feel humiliation, and his followers are still going to see this as a victory for him. He will smile at the cameras and take credit for ending the shutdown. And the Average Joe will probably buy it.

Meanwhile, this action has pissed off many Democratic voters (like myself) and taken away the momentum that had been gained by last weeks elections (in my opinion, of course). But the all around mood and the polls reflect that as well. Many (if not most) are not happy about the eight Senators caving.

What does NB mean?

It's usually the media who is shaping the message. I care what the voters are hearing and believing, and I think it' pretty much the general consensus that Democrats need to do better and work harder on their messaging. I sincerely hope that they will begin to do that in a forceful and clear manner.

or that Trump's failure to secure a clean CR counts as a victory for him, especially not when he will be forced to sign Democratic
appropriations bills that guarantee funds to hungry kids and veterans into law.

Given what I have been reading on social media, it is true that some people absolutely suck at messaging and need to work harder not to amplify Republican and anti-Democratic Party talking points. They also need to take steps to be better informed.

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NB is the Latin nota bene. It's used to emphasize something important.

Cui bono is also a Latin phrase commonly used. It means, "who benefits".

So who benefits from Republican talking points being amplified in liberal spaces?

Cui bono?

Not Democrats.

There are many who don’t see the reality that we are living through.

Have yourself a wonderful afternoon!

I can assure you that the people are not cackling with glee.

They are showing everyone who they are. Despicable, deplorable creeps.

But hey, we’re getting a clean CR and a promise of a doomed vote next month!

rates and coverage are locked in to begin January 1?

lol

It's clear they are evil bastards who don't give a sh!t about the American people.

hanging premium increases on the opposition, spotlighting the Repubs cruelty, winning elections in landslides, and hurting Repubs even according to the Orange Dingus.

Obviously we had no option but to capitulate.

I don't worry much about Trump calling people names.

Well deserved. Absolutely the most stupid thing I've ever seen this party do.

...from Dems. These are as welcome as the goddamn "Hello, hello?" calls that come in.

"Sry no money for donations"

Actually, I think shutting the govt down was a stupid dem gamble that didn't pay off. IDK where they got the idea the repubs would agree to extend the ACA tax credits, but when you use the only leverage you have, which was shutting the govt down, then IMO they should have held strong & not caved. Has Trump released all the SNAP benefits? If not, then WTF?

When I was a kid & a young adult I thought the dems were the smart party. Now? I'm kind of embarrassed at how badly we've been played the past 45 years. I have hope in the younger gen dems who aren't burdened by sentimental & kind feelings toward their long-time colleagues.

They're the bullies who beat you up for your lunch money and then shove you into your locker. They're the restaurant reviewers who write 1 star reviews. They're the professional complainers. They would take candy from a baby and then have that baby deported by ICE.

to eat and federal employees to return to work.

On the other hand... https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-house-senate-vote/

The House is up now. Let’s see what they do

It would matter if anyone except super maga idiots respected their opinion...so it doesn't matter.