Apparently that is OK, because people will blame Republicans for that and then we will win.

GOP couldve ended this with 51 votes in the senate on their terms at any moment.

Typical of the idea that society is nothing more and never will be more and not allowed to be more than the summation of individual efforts. Rugged Individualism. Republican 1900 Darwinism in other words.

It was not ethical for the con artist to use them as a hostage so he could continue his cruelty to strip millions of people of health care.

The con artist, purposefully and illegally starved his own citizens.

4 million will lose health insurance, many will see their health premiums soar in price:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220795221

And no mention of calls begging them not to cave

It's a fair question but a straw man set up

Hmmm, makes one wonder what we have here.

Seems like he'd want articles calling them weak and feckless capitulators. Your premise doesn't follow to me but maybe I'm missing something?

...in order to impose harmful policies and Dems should stand aside? All Republicans have to do is cause some immediate pain to innocents and dems must capitulate to far worse future disasters? That isn't a political system-- it's operant conditioning.

just stop, please.

that we must either kill our poor or kill our sick, and you choose killing our sick.

to having them restored permanently. But those Thanksgiving airline dollars wouldn't wait. So sick people are SOL, I guess.

Senate Democrats have been trying to bring that bill to the floor since the end of June. Yesterday, it passed.

Later this week, a humiliated Johnson will be forced to pass that Democratic spending bill in the House, and an equally humiliated Trump will be forced to sign it into law.

"kill the sick" column.

Katanya Brown Jackson had our back at the Supreme Court, the SNAP benefits could have been restored as soon as this week.

My 5th grade grandson gets tougher reading comprehension homework that reading the Constitution to see that SNAP disbursements should have been made 100%.

increased SNAP funding.

is a much more interesting take, if you ask me.

it will have to go back to the Senate for reconsideration.

No one is putting faith in Republicans, and Justice Jackson is still standing by.

Simple. No real solution that doesn’t harm someone.

Do not go into the neutral zone. A difficult decision no one wants, but going in means risking galactic war. My bet is the earlier drafts of the script wrote this as a command test for making difficult decisions, versus the "no win" scenario the film wound up with.

the end of the fiscal year.

The Senate deal also fully funds the VA until September 30, 2026. Senate Democrats, who have been trying to get those bills to the floor for months, saw those bills pass last night.

Now we will also get to watch a humiliated Speaker Johnson pass those Democratic bills in the House and an equally humiliated Donald Trump sign them into law.

It's an epic fail for the clean CR that Republicans were so desperate to pass.

legislation that some GOPers will support to restore some -- if not all -- enhanced subsidies, we weren't going to get anything anyway.

Every Congressional action?

Abortion. Invasion. Tax Code. Affordable Care Act. Pick your poison. Democrats are supposed to do what's good for the 99%.

And not just in the moment.

voted for Trump should realize they voted against their own interests.Those that didn't are victims of a BULLY President and a GOP Congress who could care less about them. SNAP was part of LBJ's Great Society and they hate it with all of their being. This is actually the tip of the iceberg - Medicaid will be cut, ACA subsidies will end, Medicare funding will be cut and that doesn't even start to tell the story of what is going to come.

Unless we stand up to a bully he will never stop. We have 3 years to come and his nastiness has just begun.

Welcome, Welcome!

My point is simple, we must not make people accept such harm without discerning a willingness within them to take that on. I do not hear anyone exhorting SNAP recipients to make a sacrifice for the greater good. There are no campaigns, no rallies, no real outreach that could connect the average person on SNAP to how their sacrifice matters. Too many of my respondents are nearly colonial in their perspective of knowing what's best for them and they would not understand. And, frankly, I do not see what could be won beyond the point where Trump et. al were happy to let people starve.

Statistics are people with the tears wiped from their faces. The people receiving SNAP are more than their numbers on assistance rolls, they are people. People who's agency must be respected if you are asking them to watch their family be hungry for the cause. If we treat them so poorly now, how can we expect them to support us in any election, as opposed to them saying a vote does not matter because both sides treat me the same.

Oral arguments would have been finished Tuesday I believe.

And I wasn't shedding tears. I did not want the dems to cave because that is not how you handle Trump. In the worst case scenario, there are food banks. But there is no such thing as medical banks. Democratic AGs went to bat to get SNAP restored. What did Trump do? He fought that tooth and nail.

As a SNAP recipient, what the 7 dems + King did was wrong.

Is it ethical to guarantee many thousands of Americans WILL die next year, because they were uninsured and without access to medical care!

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However our situation is not as clear as the trolley problem of killing one to save many. How long would we have people go without adequate food, all with no evidence Republicans would be moved by their plight if people dropped dead on their doorsteps? We have reached a point where as much as could be gained was gained and we need press on. There is no way to saying sacrificing people on SNAP for any length of time would in itself guarantee health care.

Because that did not happen. Every effort was made to ensure people received adequate food when the con artist illegally shut them out.

The lower courts had already ruled that withholding SNAP payments is illegal.

SCOTUS will rule the same.

Plus I guarantee you another week of air travel problems would have forced Republicans back to the negotiating table no matter what else happened.

"sacrificed people on SNAP for any length of time."

We have, however, sacrificed those who need affordable healthcare. And we have negotiated with a terrorist, which means we lose all future negotiations.

The situation regarding consent is the same regardless of legislation topic.

It's in Chapter 10 of Project 2025. There is no guarantee that they will restore SNAP even if the Dems cave. And we know we're losing ACA subsidies.

That is all

...it is not only ethical, it is their job. They failed.