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moniss

(8,374 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:50 PM Tuesday

Even if Dems did miraculously take the Senate

the noise around the right wing has been for a long time that they will flip Fetterman. They look at him now as a weak version of Manchin but still useful to them. Sort of like Sinema but with a more shabby wardrobe.

On the House side we need to be careful if the mid terms give us a close win by only a seat or two because in addition to massive legal challenges to election results we can expect massive financial incentives being given in order to entice enough members to switch to keep the GQP in control. We are in an era where the MAGA justices have blessed open bribery since they seem to be familiar with and in favor of the subject already. There appears to be a policy that any and all levels of corruption and crime will be ignored, convictions pardoned etc. as long as the offender salutes Crumb The 1st and ponies up some tribute.

Having a sexual abuse component seems to help an offender get that pardon, like in the case of the Tennessee official, or the ability to shamelessly tell monstrous, easily proven false lies and just roll to the next one when confronted like George Santos.

The bottom line is that taking control in the House and/or Senate by small margins is not going to be enough. Remember how the GQP hamstrung and blocked things the last time? Also relying on the courts is, as we have seen, a long uncertain process and compliance with court orders is not forthcoming.

Notice how despite the judges orders about ICE-American Gestapo in Chicago nothing has really changed? In fact they now appear ready to stage a slow withdrawal rather than comply and use the withdrawal as a claim to moot the judge's order. Sort of like the bank robber putting the cash back into the bank through the back door a little at a time and thereby claiming exemption from arrest/prosecution/conviction/imprisonment.

Notice how despite court orders federal funds to SNAP are still yet to flow. Notice how despite several court decisions about illegal firings of employees etc. the firings still go on. Notice how despite the attacks on boats being obviously blatantly illegal they still continue.

So we have to seriously ask ourselves some very real questions. If the Epstein files get released and show damning conclusive evidence of Crumb the 1st taking part in sex crimes and the GQP is in control of the House will they even approve an impeachment motion? Even if an impeachment motion were to make it out of a GQP or Dem controlled House will enough GQP Senators vote to convict that would give the needed 2/3 for conviction? If convicted and he refuses to go who and how would physically remove him?

So we could face the very real scenario where we have a President committing the most heinous crimes of murder, sexual abuse of minors, engaging in and supporting sex trafficking, using the office for engaging in extortion of nations and businesses for personal profit, engaging in theft/sale of classified documents, knowingly and purposely withholding food and medical care from children etc. and we may very well have enough GQP Senators that would keep such a person in office.



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Even if Dems did miraculously take the Senate (Original Post) moniss Tuesday OP
Or he won't officially flip; he'll just be the next Sinema/Manchin Chasstev365 Tuesday #1
The house won't be close, even with maximum gerrymandering Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #2
Yeah, a decisive legislative mandate is required bucolic_frolic Tuesday #3
I'd take Manchin to the GOPer that replaced him. Silent Type Tuesday #4

Fiendish Thingy

(21,479 posts)
2. The house won't be close, even with maximum gerrymandering
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:02 PM
Tuesday

Fetterman will be a loose cannon until his term ends and he is replaced with someone more dependable.

The Epstein files will never be officially released, they will only be made public if someone leaks them.

There will never be a 2/3 vote to remove Trump, but if there were, the VP would immediately be sworn in and assume the role of CIC of the military.

Trump has about 14 months at most before he becomes a castrated lame duck.

bucolic_frolic

(53,228 posts)
3. Yeah, a decisive legislative mandate is required
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:02 PM
Tuesday

to clean up the mess, and to make Fetterman irrelevant.

The institutions are fully-owned corrupt entities. Words don't mean what they mean.

The rich and powerful always had control of everything. Politics was the way of covering it up.

Now, with knowledge and the internet available to the people, the experience we're having is the new way of perpetuating control by the rich and powerful. If they didn't own and control everything and tell you lies you cannot dispute, their control would falter. You know that's not going to happen.

To support the idea, Hitler was a madman but was put in power by rich and powerful forces worldwide. Many were surprised that he did things they hadn't signed up for, but their investment paid money.

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