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Greyhead

(156 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:33 PM Tuesday

So we are a Christian nation. I don't think so. Read this article.

A women called 42 places of worship for help in getting baby formula. She documented it with 42 videos of the calls on tic tok and only 9 responded positively.

https://www.newsweek.com/nikalie-monroe-church-call-experiment-starving-child-poverty-snap-benefits-11022815

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leftstreet

(38,208 posts)
1. A lot of them think tHe PooRs lack faith
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:39 PM
Tuesday

That God would reward them if they were better Christians

But the same thinking is present in secular thinking. If you're impoverished you should get a job. Make better choices, etc.

Festivito

(13,823 posts)
3. She should try calling other businesses to see how they react.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:10 PM
Tuesday

If someone called me saying they have a starving baby, I think I'd call child protective services.

Unfortunate that many churches do not have someone who can run out and supply things, too often just a secretary answering phones.

Businesses on the other hand usually have a contingent of people.

fujiyamasan

(946 posts)
4. A business's purpose is to make money
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:21 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)

They’re supposed to make a profit for its owners or shareholders. What is a church’s purpose?

It’s evidently not to help the poor or the needy. And please don’t tell me that it’s the lack of resources. We have seen time and again how various churches of different sizes act when it comes to providing any actual help during a time of crisis. The first that comes to mind is Joel Osteen during Hurricane Harvey. But at this point, I’m convinced that’s the rule rather than the exception.

I think her experiment revealed what most of us have known for a while now. The last several presidential election results make it very clear.

hatrack

(63,957 posts)
8. It was Hurricane Harvey - but yes, that's exactly the point . . .
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:07 PM
Tuesday

He evidently didn't want the muddy boots of Teh Poors bringing mud and floodwater into his big shiny church building.

fujiyamasan

(946 posts)
5. May as well a lot of American Christians "Kirkians" at this point
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Tuesday

The Christianity they follow is a nasty mean spirited variant, at odds with most of Jesus’ teachings.

I hate generalizing, because I don’t think most Christians are bad, but something is clearly wrong when the likes of Charlie Kirk are among the most revered among Christians in this country.

Wiz Imp

(8,081 posts)
7. Fixed it for you
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:04 PM
Tuesday

The Christianity they follow is a nasty mean spirited variant, at odds with most ALL of Jesus’ teachings.

no_hypocrisy

(53,744 posts)
6. She should have tried non-theistic organizations like The Ethical Culture Society.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 06:15 PM
Tuesday

If they didn't have formula, they'd go out of their way to get her some.

vanlassie

(6,186 posts)
9. There is a mechanism for obtaining formula in the U.S.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:09 PM
Tuesday

It is WIC, and very well known to poor mothers. For this reason, I suspect it is rare for any mother to call a church for formula, so this may be part of the issue. I didn’t (and prefer not to) listen to her calls. But a starving baby should be taken to a hospital.

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