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moniss

(8,372 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:28 PM Tuesday

The ultimate irony is seen today

on the day we in America give remembrance to those who fought for us and never gave in as we are also presented with 8 people who did give in and the yellow streak down their backs will be something we can't forget. Remembrance, honor and dignity while also wishing we could forget disgrace and cowardice all on a cold day in November of 2025. Those who stood tall and those who bowed and crawled. It is a strange world indeed.

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The ultimate irony is seen today (Original Post) moniss Tuesday OP
On the Absence of Leadership -Robert Arnold pat_k Tuesday #1
Democrats get the credit for reopening. Frasier Balzov Tuesday #2

pat_k

(12,435 posts)
1. On the Absence of Leadership -Robert Arnold
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:38 PM
Tuesday

The five who wrongheadedly refused to hold out have done the party harm. And as we make it clear how angry we are about it, I think we need to be crystal clear that they failed us, not by failing to get their demands met; they failed us because in this fight we had faith that they would (1) make their demand, (2) hold out until either

(a) MAGA R's met the demand, or
(b) MAGA R's went nuclear and ended the shutdown on their own, without the complicity or capitulation of the Democrats.


More in this post.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220797307

Robert Arnold expresses my feeling far better than I can.

...
They'll tell us it was necessary;
that it was the responsible thing to do.
But responsibility without conviction
isn't leadership. It's survival.
And survival is not the same as purpose.
...



Defiance 'til Death

Frasier Balzov

(4,722 posts)
2. Democrats get the credit for reopening.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:31 PM
Tuesday

Republicans will have plenty of opportunities to shoot themselves in the feet again between now and next November.

Trump will be helping them go down.

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