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moniss

(8,372 posts) Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:40 PM Tuesday

If the Epstein files aren't released

before the end of 2028 and if Crumb The 1st does leave office in January 2029 I think it's a sure bet he takes everything with him. I don't know how much will be left but he'll take it whatever it is. It'll be like Iran-Contra or Torture Gate and we'll never be allowed to really see it all.

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If the Epstein files aren't released (Original Post) moniss Tuesday OP

Independent investigations will uncover plenty regardless of DOJ stonewalling. usonian Tuesday #1

Like most books about independent investigations I think it moniss Tuesday #2

The Andrew formerly known as "Prince" is totally disgraced without a trial. So will many wealthy and powerful usonian Tuesday #3

The British are very different thanwhat is going on here moniss Yesterday #4

It's not that he is IN them (which he may be) but many suspect that he runs the blackmail operation usonian Yesterday #5

trump's thugs have access to everything else, why not those files/data/images/hard-drives? albacore Yesterday #6

usonian

(22,371 posts)

1. Independent investigations will uncover plenty regardless of DOJ stonewalling.

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:47 PM

Tuesday

DOJ. Defenders of Jeffrey.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20790032

Please read and follow links.

It's not that TRUTH will win out, it's that DIRT will come out.
It's too spectacular, enormous and sick to stay hidden.
Two "tell all" books already, and I am sure many more books and investigations to come.

Outside of the Defenders of Jeffrey.

moniss

(8,372 posts)

2. Like most books about independent investigations I think it

Reply to usonian (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:52 PM

Tuesday

will generate media but when it comes down to it the guilty will just deny and claim it's all phony.

usonian

(22,371 posts)

3. The Andrew formerly known as "Prince" is totally disgraced without a trial. So will many wealthy and powerful

Reply to moniss (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:05 PM

Tuesday

One can only guess, based on their scumbag ethics. Kings? Princes? National leaders? Heads of large companies? S------ C---- Justices, Politicians, and through the money trail, heads of a certain (Trump/Epstein) global blackmail scheme.

They are paying NOT to be shamed.
Lots and lots and lots of money.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608

moniss

(8,372 posts)

4. The British are very different thanwhat is going on here

Reply to usonian (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:08 AM

Yesterday

though and I truly doubt that even if there were video released of Crumb The 1st abusing a 14 year old that there would be enough GQP Senators to make a 2/3 vote to convict in the Senate if he was impeached. In the business world of course there would be more impact for some of these others.

usonian

(22,371 posts)

5. It's not that he is IN them (which he may be) but many suspect that he runs the blackmail operation

Reply to moniss (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:18 AM

Yesterday

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after Epstein "conveniently" died in prison.

Check that link.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608

Exposure of this "outside of presidential duties" matter could cost him a fortune in blackmail money and loss of control of his victims.

And this can be tracked down independently. There were tons of money laundered (his specialty, by the way) and following the money (hence his love of "almost" anonymous crypto currency) usually connects dots.

When you look at things from that perspective, they make more sense than him just being a pedo. If he was, and probably was, Putin probably has that dirt. Many believe it's way beyond that. Global blackmail operation that would make Ian Fleming blush.

albacore

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6. trump's thugs have access to everything else, why not those files/data/images/hard-drives?

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:29 AM

Yesterday

My bet is that all that shit has been shredded - twice- , burned, and the ashes dumped in the ocean.

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