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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Epstein "Mueller Report" Files
Many are a buzz with Congress back in session and the looming release of the Epstein Files.
Does anyone really believe Trump's DOJ with release anything but a heavily redacted, "outline of the events", with glaring omissions? And Trump will drag out the release of the unredacted version in court like the Mother Fucker always does. Hell, we STILL haven't seen the unredacted Mueller Report or Jack Smith's report. (Fuck You Milquetoast Garland)
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The Epstein "Mueller Report" Files (Original Post)
Chasstev365
18 hrs ago
OP
I don't think that's how a discharge petition works. It's not passing law, but I may be wrong.
Chasstev365
16 hrs ago
#2
No need to say "You're wrong"; I stated I may be wrong in my response, but thanks for the information.
Chasstev365
13 hrs ago
#4
Wiz Imp
(8,081 posts)1. There is no "looming release of the Epstein Files"
The bill passing the House will not require the files to be released. It must also pass the Senate and be signed by Trump (which will never happen) to become law.
Chasstev365
(6,706 posts)2. I don't think that's how a discharge petition works. It's not passing law, but I may be wrong.
Wiz Imp
(8,081 posts)3. You are wrong
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/house-epstein-files-vote-00647392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_petition
In United States parliamentary procedure, a discharge petition is a means of bringing a bill out of committee and to the floor for consideration without a report from the committee by "discharging" the committee from further consideration of a bill or resolution.
Between 1931 and 2003, 563 discharge petitions were filed, of which only 47 obtained the required majority of signatures. The House voted for discharge 26 times and passed 19 of the measures, but only two have become law. However, the threat of a discharge petition has caused the leadership to relent several times; such petitions are dropped only because the leadership allowed the bill to move forward, rendering the petition superfluous. Overall, either the petition was completed or else the measure made it to the floor by other means in 16 percent of cases.
Heres how the House battle over the Epstein files will play out
The completion of the discharge petition, a rarely used mechanism to sidestep the majority party leadership, will trigger a countdown for the bill to hit the House floor. It will still take seven legislative days for the petition to ripen, after which Johnson will have two legislative days to schedule a vote. Senior Republican and Democratic aides estimate a floor vote will come the first week of December, after the Thanksgiving recess.
The discharge petition tees up a rule, a procedural measure setting the terms of debate for the Epstein bills consideration on the House floor. This gives the efforts leaders greater control over the bill, which will still require Senate approval if it passes the House.
Senate Republican leaders havent publicly committed to bringing up the Epstein measure if the House passes it. Republicans expect it will die in the Senate, but not before a contentious House fight.
The completion of the discharge petition, a rarely used mechanism to sidestep the majority party leadership, will trigger a countdown for the bill to hit the House floor. It will still take seven legislative days for the petition to ripen, after which Johnson will have two legislative days to schedule a vote. Senior Republican and Democratic aides estimate a floor vote will come the first week of December, after the Thanksgiving recess.
The discharge petition tees up a rule, a procedural measure setting the terms of debate for the Epstein bills consideration on the House floor. This gives the efforts leaders greater control over the bill, which will still require Senate approval if it passes the House.
Senate Republican leaders havent publicly committed to bringing up the Epstein measure if the House passes it. Republicans expect it will die in the Senate, but not before a contentious House fight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_petition
In United States parliamentary procedure, a discharge petition is a means of bringing a bill out of committee and to the floor for consideration without a report from the committee by "discharging" the committee from further consideration of a bill or resolution.
Between 1931 and 2003, 563 discharge petitions were filed, of which only 47 obtained the required majority of signatures. The House voted for discharge 26 times and passed 19 of the measures, but only two have become law. However, the threat of a discharge petition has caused the leadership to relent several times; such petitions are dropped only because the leadership allowed the bill to move forward, rendering the petition superfluous. Overall, either the petition was completed or else the measure made it to the floor by other means in 16 percent of cases.
Chasstev365
(6,706 posts)4. No need to say "You're wrong"; I stated I may be wrong in my response, but thanks for the information.
Wiz Imp
(8,081 posts)5. ????? You said you may be wrong. I was simply confirming that.
Hotler
(13,605 posts)6. If so, what are we fighting for? Why are politicians calling for a vote to release when they know it won't happen?
More theater, they're playing us. With no Epstein files and the surrender of eight senators where dead in the water with no hope.