stubborn narcissists.

if Biden had closed the border, we wouldn't have had this " illegal immigration crisis", and drumpf would not have had to take such drastic measures to get people out of the country.............

this is some Olympics level contortionism if I've ever seen it.

A fellow on a talk show was lamenting about what he felt was selective prosecution of him by INS. I forget the details. His green card may have expired or he may have overstayed his visa. He claimed that such infractions were commonplace. He stated that there was a tacit understanding that, if an Immigrant (having papers which were not in order) lived a crime-free life and did not associate with any unsavory parties, he or she would be free from prosecution by INS. The talk show hosts and others on the panel were not hearing any of that argument, and the fellow was cut off from the show.

The first is that there is NO definition of what had to happen so that the border would have been said to be closed. Just considering the routes some took, crossing rivers or deserts, it is clear normal paths between Mexico and the US were NOT open. Therefore what they are referring to is how immigrants were treated. One area that was different was how people asking for asylum were treated. One major problem is that immigration judges were scarce and waiting times long. Only legislation could have changed that and TRUMP led the Republicans to defeat a bill that would have helped. (The Trump alternative is to not allow these people to stay until their cases were adjudicated.

Not to mention, just closing the border was not the extent of Trump's agenda. If Biden closing the border, as defined by Trump would have eliminated the problem, Trump doing so when he came in would have done so as well. So, why the raids? What is clear is their agenda includes deporting Latinos in the country for decades, whether or not they have a criminal record. In fact, some detained are American citizens with no record other than being Latino. ( Or, as in his case, POC of any kind.)

Add to that that Trump wants the lowest level of refugees and to reserve most slots for South African whites. Pretty obvious agenda that even this pastor should be able to see.

I recall reading a report that one Trump supporter who was being deported said he did not blame Trump, but he blamed Biden instead. However, I do no know how credible that report was.

The point of all this is that MAGAs continually excuse Trump for everything, and they pin it all on Biden.

The inner reflection pool has been drained with MAGA. Funny how most of them are christians which strongly encourages introspection to improve oneself.

There are no smart Trump voters. None.

And the criminals. They get a pardon.

Then you listen to them, and most seem stupid and nuts. Nothing makes you dumber than money, it appears.

Logic is optional (and often counter-productive to them); spin is mandatory.

Brainwashed people.

If you think people who listen to you buy this, then you must have total and complete contempt for their lack of intelligence.

Yup, so call common sense