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usonian

(22,371 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:35 AM 13 hrs ago

War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Grocery Prices Are Way Down. ( "Big Brother" Paul Krugman)

Lying has worked for Trump in the past. Is this a lie too far?
https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/war-is-peace-freedom-is-slavery-grocery

Trump has lied a lot over time, and in general it has worked for him. Will this time be different?

Yes. Voters do sometimes believe lies, but not the kind of lies Trump is telling.

Voters can sometimes be convinced, falsely, that bad things are happening to other people, even when they themselves are doing OK. Many Americans who don’t live in Chicago probably believe administration claims that the city, which just had its safest summer since the 1960s, is a war zone.

But telling people that things are great when their personal experience says otherwise is different. Are violent mobs overrunning Portland? If you watch Fox News, you might believe that. Are groceries “way down,” as Trump keeps insisting? Anyone who does their own food shopping — even Republicans — knows that this isn’t true. Reupping a chart from yesterday’s post:




Whither America's great cognitive dissonance?

cognitive dissonance is described as a mental phenomenon in which people unknowingly or subconsciously hold fundamentally conflicting cognitions


WAIT FOR BREAKING NEWS!!



Meanwhile, in the real world:

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War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Grocery Prices Are Way Down. ( "Big Brother" Paul Krugman) (Original Post) usonian 13 hrs ago OP
Oh one of his lackeys *is* blaming Biden for it. durablend 13 hrs ago #1
Yes, the lies are losing their magic peggysue2 13 hrs ago #2
I was going to say "But McDonalds" but they have raised prices (so people tell me) usonian 13 hrs ago #3
Trump raised the chocolate ration! DBoon 12 hrs ago #4

peggysue2

(12,303 posts)
2. Yes, the lies are losing their magic
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:58 AM
13 hrs ago

The 'don't trust your lying ears and eyes' shtick is definitely wearing thin. Anyone who knows what a grocery store is knows prices have lurched upward. Anyone who has filled their car knows gasoline is NOT $2.00 a gallon. The Golden Age shouted from the rooftops is limited to the rarefied air breathers, the Mar-a-Lago members and the circle of friends and sycophants surrounding Trump who whisper in his ear that he's beloved, the economy is splendid and he's the best president ever.

It's been a con all along, the biggest political and financial heist in American history.



usonian

(22,371 posts)
3. I was going to say "But McDonalds" but they have raised prices (so people tell me)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:02 PM
13 hrs ago

That seems to be his only personal grocery shopping.

Then again, employees get free food.

They did when I worked there.



Yes, to those 15 cent burgers.

DBoon

(24,498 posts)
4. Trump raised the chocolate ration!
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:27 PM
12 hrs ago
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. [...] The eyeless crature at the other table swallowed it fanatically. passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grams. Syme, too-in some more double complex way, involving doublethink-Syme, swallow it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory?”

― George Orwell , 1984
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