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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,849 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:52 PM 12 hrs ago

Here's how the House battle over the Epstein files will play out

The monthslong bipartisan effort to sidestep Speaker Mike Johnson and force the release of all Justice Department files on the late sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein is kicking into high gear this week, setting up a December floor battle that President Donald Trump has sought to avoid.

The cascade of action was jump-started Wednesday morning when Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released fresh emails where Epstein told a journalist that Trump "knew about the girls" that Epstein was trafficking. Trump has denied any wrongdoing, but the explosive new revelations stand to turbocharge public interest in releasing the DOJ files.

The process of doing so will begin around 4 p.m., when Johnson swears in Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva right before the House votes to end the government shutdown — ending a 50-day wait following the Arizona Democrat’s election. Shortly afterward, Grijalva says she will affix the 218th and final signature to the discharge petition led by Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) to force a vote on the full release of DOJ’s Epstein files.

That in itself will be the culmination of months of drama that blew up into a full crisis for Johnson this summer, with a GOP mutiny grinding the floor to a halt and forcing leaders to send the House home early for August recess. The uproar over a possible Epstein cover-up faded but never disappeared entirely.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-epstein-files-fight-is-finally-coming-to-the-house-floor/ar-AA1QhiiR

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pecosbob

(8,233 posts)
1. And then it will die when it goes to the Senate...and it accomplished what? A symbolic floor vote.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:55 PM
12 hrs ago

Prince99

(102 posts)
5. Is this correct
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:30 PM
12 hrs ago

You continue to post or maybe someone else this narrative. Can you help me out.

In your sequencing approach would it go to Senate without being opened? If that is the case, then why is Dump and Johnson trying to get others to pull their support. Let it go and it dies as you suggest. I would think as long as the docs are opened is all we need. Who cares what happens afterwards.

pecosbob

(8,233 posts)
6. It's a procedural tool to force the Speaker to bring it to a vote.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:47 PM
11 hrs ago

If 231 signatures are gathered after a waiting period of typically seven days to see if anyone else wants to sign on, the bill is discharged from committee and comes for a full debate and vote on the House floor. If it passes in a full vote on the House floor, the bill goes to the Senate.

Munu

(8 posts)
2. My guess is the files do not exist.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
12 hrs ago

No I am *not* saying the files never existed.

Trump will have to be nailed some other way and and a lot of other people are off the hook.

berksdem

(886 posts)
3. I still think none of this matter
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:00 PM
12 hrs ago

and those docs will never see the light of day. Even if they did it wouldn't matter to his cult.

in2herbs

(4,065 posts)
4. If the f45 regime has destroyed the EP files it will be up to the survivors to address congress and reveal the truth. n
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:23 PM
12 hrs ago

Torchlight

(6,117 posts)
7. Mr. trump made a campaign promise his supporters are holding him to
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:50 PM
11 hrs ago

Every mention of it causes the GOP's face to wince in avoidance and sea-lions to bark in frustration. I see this as a rather positive tool going into the midterms this cycle.

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