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D. Spaulding

(434 posts)
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:02 PM 14 hrs ago

Not sure if this story was covered here yet, but if true, it's a bombshell and totally redeems the Kelly video;

From Rawstory;

'Premeditated murder': Pete Hegseth accused of 'unambiguous war crime' after new report

New reporting shows Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth may have violated U.S. and international law by ordering a follow-up attack on two survivors in the administration's controversial missile strikes on alleged drug smugglers.

President Donald Trump's Pentagon chief ordered the Sept. 2 strike off the Trinidad coast, but drone footage showed two survivors clinging to the wreckage after the smoke cleared – and the Washington Post reported that Hegseth gave a second verbal directive to "kill everybody."


https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hegseth-war-crime-premeditated/

Hegseth is unqualified garbage.
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Not sure if this story was covered here yet, but if true, it's a bombshell and totally redeems the Kelly video; (Original Post) D. Spaulding 14 hrs ago OP
If true canetoad 14 hrs ago #1
Can we Traildogbob 14 hrs ago #2
No Hair Extensions?? Ars Longa 14 hrs ago #6
Or highlighted tips Traildogbob 14 hrs ago #9
NOPE here, too! calimary 12 hrs ago #18
NOPE! calimary 12 hrs ago #17
PPV would eliminate the nation dept mercuryblues 12 hrs ago #20
No Fox News.... BattleRow 12 hrs ago #22
..."Til the maggots carry 'em through the keyhole!" BurnDoubt 10 hrs ago #36
It is written by the WP. Big Blue Marble 14 hrs ago #3
Stalking Horse roscoeroscoe 14 hrs ago #4
If this is indeed true; D. Spaulding 14 hrs ago #5
NAZI Murderer Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #7
That's not "war", it is warcrimes, it is premeditated murder. How will Hogsbreath feel when an enemy orders the ... marble falls 14 hrs ago #8
I fear it would make Hegseth feel happy as it would give him a pretense to send in heavy bombers Attilatheblond 11 hrs ago #27
Hogsbreath, Secretary of WarCrimes LaRaven 8 hrs ago #40
Does anyone know if there's a version of the WAPO story D. Spaulding 13 hrs ago #10
Internet archive link canetoad 13 hrs ago #12
Thanks! D. Spaulding 10 hrs ago #34
If we don't prosecute Hegseth ourselves, The Hague should stick him in Slobodan Milosevic's old cell. paulkienitz 13 hrs ago #11
q: can the hague prosecute americans? no orleans 12 hrs ago #21
Does a crime on International Waters come under ICC jurisdiction? colorado_ufo 10 hrs ago #33
Not that the Kelly video neesa any redemption. soldierant 13 hrs ago #13
We have a lawless administration overseeing our federal government. debsy 12 hrs ago #14
Glad this incident is getting attention, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE ATTACK off the coast of Venezuela is murder and a Fil1957 12 hrs ago #15
Hegseth's Undoing gfarber 12 hrs ago #16
And let's add the issue of GIVING UNLAWFUL ORDERS BOSSHOG 12 hrs ago #19
If true, this makes cold-blooded sense. NH Ethylene 12 hrs ago #23
Someone followed an illegal order YoshidaYui 12 hrs ago #24
Are we sure the murders have been carried out by the military? Shipwack 9 hrs ago #38
Pete Hegseth Ordered "Kill Them All" as Two People Hung From the Side of a Boat Engulfed in Flames in Caribbean Amaryllis 11 hrs ago #25
Hegseth, meet The Hague Seinan Sensei 4 hrs ago #42
Polluted Pete Kegsbreath is a disgrace to our country. NoMoreRepugs 11 hrs ago #26
Serial killer Turbineguy 11 hrs ago #28
When a title includes "but if true..." SCantiGOP 11 hrs ago #29
It's being reported by WaPo, CNN, ABC and others. sop 11 hrs ago #31
There's probably video/audio evidence of Hegseth watching the first strike live and giving the follow-up kill order. sop 11 hrs ago #30
Send Kegsbreath to the drunk tank Blue Owl 10 hrs ago #32
Maybe that's why they made the video when they did. COL Mustard 10 hrs ago #35
can't wait for the murder triel at the hague. pansypoo53219 9 hrs ago #37
Kick. N/T Upthevibe 9 hrs ago #39
May petey receive everything he deserves. Three times three. niyad 6 hrs ago #41
A WAR CRIME Jimvanhise 4 hrs ago #43

Traildogbob

(12,250 posts)
2. Can we
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:18 PM
14 hrs ago

Just turn over Noem, Miller, and Kegsbreath to international prisons and maybe have Jack Smith prosecute them for multiple murders. PPV.
I pray for the day they are shackled, in prison orange, as they shuffle into court for trial with the ultimate sentence. Life without plastic, hair gel or spray, on 24/7 video feed to watch them suffer. All in the same cell with two bunks and a gender neutral toilet.
Watch Noem melt like her South Park fill in, to where bot even her two bunk mates wanna touch or see her.

Traildogbob

(12,250 posts)
9. Or highlighted tips
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:33 PM
14 hrs ago

For Kegsbreath. And no mirrors, like the Pentagon upgrades. Just Carnival ones that warp their image even worse than they are in living color.
And only one outfit. Orange jump suit.

Big Blue Marble

(5,657 posts)
3. It is written by the WP.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:18 PM
14 hrs ago

If anything, they lean towards the Administration. Someone wants Hegseth out.

roscoeroscoe

(1,795 posts)
4. Stalking Horse
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:27 PM
14 hrs ago

They have this never back down routine, so they're hanging Hegs out there like bait. Another chance to call critics unpatriotic. It works in MAGA world, not at all here in Earth 1.

Check out South Park's new episode!

marble falls

(69,795 posts)
8. That's not "war", it is warcrimes, it is premeditated murder. How will Hogsbreath feel when an enemy orders the ...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:32 PM
14 hrs ago

... murder of US military wounded/prisoners?

Attilatheblond

(7,919 posts)
27. I fear it would make Hegseth feel happy as it would give him a pretense to send in heavy bombers
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:59 PM
11 hrs ago

and murder thousands.

He is an egocentric drunk in fear of displeasing the murderous maniac in chief and losing his cushy gig

canetoad

(19,902 posts)
12. Internet archive link
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:18 PM
13 hrs ago
https://archive.md/Dnq8a

All you need to do is copy the link to the article, in this case I obtained it from RawStory. Then go to archive.today webpage archive and paste it in. It gives you a clean, non-paywalled copy.

paulkienitz

(1,486 posts)
11. If we don't prosecute Hegseth ourselves, The Hague should stick him in Slobodan Milosevic's old cell.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:17 PM
13 hrs ago

orleans

(36,567 posts)
21. q: can the hague prosecute americans? no
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:25 PM
12 hrs ago


google ai:
No, the International Criminal Court (ICC) cannot prosecute Americans because the United States is not a member state of the ICC, and the ICC has no jurisdiction over the nationals of non-member states. However, there are limited circumstances where a US citizen could be prosecuted: if an American commits a crime on the territory of a member state, the ICC can have jurisdiction, notes the Coalition for the International Criminal Court.

colorado_ufo

(6,188 posts)
33. Does a crime on International Waters come under ICC jurisdiction?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:52 PM
10 hrs ago

Asking for a few hundred million friends!

soldierant

(9,181 posts)
13. Not that the Kelly video neesa any redemption.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:44 PM
13 hrs ago

Speaking as a veteran, it is spot on and if anything understated.

debsy

(722 posts)
14. We have a lawless administration overseeing our federal government.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:53 PM
12 hrs ago

As long as Donnie dumpster can pardon anyone he wants, they can kill anyone with no consequences. This is what happens with unchecked power. SCROTUS and the Grand Old Pricks have abdicated their responsibilities and handed our government over to a bunch of billionaire yahoos.

Fil1957

(432 posts)
15. Glad this incident is getting attention, but the truth is EVERY SINGLE ATTACK off the coast of Venezuela is murder and a
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 03:58 PM
12 hrs ago

war crime. Even the destruction of the submarine which likely WAS transporting drugs is murder and a war crime.

Hope he and the other sick bastards responsible for these crimes gets serious prison time. It's the only way this murderous madness is going to stop.

gfarber

(163 posts)
16. Hegseth's Undoing
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:03 PM
12 hrs ago


Reports from the coast say, in stride,
A strike left two clinging alive.
But whispers then spread
Of a follow-up said—
Just “per news accounts,” not verified.

The papers described quite a shock:
A command that could bend every law on the block.
Though all that’s been told
Is what journalists hold—
Allegations that rightly raise talk.

Drone footage, the story relates,
Showed survivors who clung to their fates.
Then a claim made in print
Cast a serious tint—
Though it’s only what one source narrates.

Off Trinidad’s coastline they say
A mission went sideways that day.
And the Post wrote a line
Of an order defined—
But again, that’s just reporting, not sway.

BOSSHOG

(44,241 posts)
19. And let's add the issue of GIVING UNLAWFUL ORDERS
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:09 PM
12 hrs ago

As if fucking up a minimum amount of lives isn’t enough for the convicted felon who has never had a friend in his life, has never loved anyone and views associates as ATM machines.

NH Ethylene

(31,270 posts)
23. If true, this makes cold-blooded sense.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:45 PM
12 hrs ago

Any survivors could come forward and present evidence that they were just fishermen, describe the horrors of the attack, etc, which would not only be very bad publicity for the administration, but it would also put a crimp on their plans for a war against Venezuela.

YoshidaYui

(44,775 posts)
24. Someone followed an illegal order
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:49 PM
12 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Does no one listen to Malcolm Nance?

Shipwack

(2,935 posts)
38. Are we sure the murders have been carried out by the military?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:11 PM
9 hrs ago

I’m thinking that these boat attacks are being done by the one of the alphabet services.

Then again, there were those enlisted men who knowingly fired drone missiles on wedding celebrations during the Afghanistan conflict.

Amaryllis

(10,875 posts)
25. Pete Hegseth Ordered "Kill Them All" as Two People Hung From the Side of a Boat Engulfed in Flames in Caribbean
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:56 PM
11 hrs ago

Aaron Parnas

more at link

https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/news-pete-hegseth-ordered-kill-them?

Good afternoon, everyone. Credible reports have emerged indicating that U.S. military personnel likely violated international humanitarian law, specifically involving an alleged order by Pete Hegseth to fire on individuals in the southern Caribbean who were clinging to the side of a burning boat and posed no apparent threat to the United States.

Having spent years studying international law both as an undergraduate and in law school, I can say this with absolute clarity: if these reports are accurate, this conduct would align with what international law defines as denial of quarter, the unlawful refusal to accept the surrender of persons who are defenseless, incapacitated, or otherwise incapable of mounting a threat. In plain terms, it would constitute a war crime. And I break down exactly why.

A Washington Post report described a Caribbean operation in which U.S. surveillance tracked a boat believed to be carrying drugs; according to two individuals with direct knowledge, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a spoken directive to “kill everybody,” leading SEAL Team 6 to strike the vessel and leave no survivors, even as two men clung to the burning, disabled boat.

Experts and officials say the suspected traffickers were not engaged in any armed conflict with the United States and posed no imminent threat; therefore, according to former Special Operations legal adviser Todd Huntley, killing them outside a lawful war context “amounts to murder.”

SCantiGOP

(14,628 posts)
29. When a title includes "but if true..."
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:06 PM
11 hrs ago

and it comes from Rawstory, it probably shouldn’t be posted.

sop

(17,027 posts)
30. There's probably video/audio evidence of Hegseth watching the first strike live and giving the follow-up kill order.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:21 PM
11 hrs ago

Blue Owl

(57,997 posts)
32. Send Kegsbreath to the drunk tank
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:52 PM
10 hrs ago

The one with the iron bars, stainless,steel toilet, and no windows

COL Mustard

(7,855 posts)
35. Maybe that's why they made the video when they did.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 06:08 PM
10 hrs ago

A lot of people were wondering what orders were illegal...Hegesth's reported "kill them all" order after the first missile strike might be the clearest example we've seen recently.

Jimvanhise

(550 posts)
43. A WAR CRIME
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 12:06 AM
4 hrs ago

After World War Two people in Germany and Japan were prosecuted (and sometimes executed) for things like this.

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