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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNot sure if this story was covered here yet, but if true, it's a bombshell and totally redeems the Kelly video;
From Rawstory;
'Premeditated murder': Pete Hegseth accused of 'unambiguous war crime' after new report
President Donald Trump's Pentagon chief ordered the Sept. 2 strike off the Trinidad coast, but drone footage showed two survivors clinging to the wreckage after the smoke cleared and the Washington Post reported that Hegseth gave a second verbal directive to "kill everybody."
https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hegseth-war-crime-premeditated/
Hegseth is unqualified garbage.
canetoad
(19,902 posts)This has broken all sorts of maritime laws as well. It's a DUTY to rescue at sea.
Traildogbob
(12,250 posts)Just turn over Noem, Miller, and Kegsbreath to international prisons and maybe have Jack Smith prosecute them for multiple murders. PPV.
I pray for the day they are shackled, in prison orange, as they shuffle into court for trial with the ultimate sentence. Life without plastic, hair gel or spray, on 24/7 video feed to watch them suffer. All in the same cell with two bunks and a gender neutral toilet.
Watch Noem melt like her South Park fill in, to where bot even her two bunk mates wanna touch or see her.
Ars Longa
(371 posts)Traildogbob
(12,250 posts)For Kegsbreath. And no mirrors, like the Pentagon upgrades. Just Carnival ones that warp their image even worse than they are in living color.
And only one outfit. Orange jump suit.
calimary
(88,630 posts)calimary
(88,630 posts)mercuryblues
(16,054 posts)rung up by trump.
BattleRow
(2,057 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,293 posts)Big Blue Marble
(5,657 posts)If anything, they lean towards the Administration. Someone wants Hegseth out.
roscoeroscoe
(1,795 posts)They have this never back down routine, so they're hanging Hegs out there like bait. Another chance to call critics unpatriotic. It works in MAGA world, not at all here in Earth 1.
Check out South Park's new episode!
D. Spaulding
(434 posts)Even the GOP have to call for him to resign, at a minimu.
Kid Berwyn
(22,446 posts)The Hague awaits.
marble falls
(69,795 posts)... murder of US military wounded/prisoners?
Attilatheblond
(7,919 posts)and murder thousands.
He is an egocentric drunk in fear of displeasing the murderous maniac in chief and losing his cushy gig
LaRaven
(215 posts)D. Spaulding
(434 posts)not behind a paywall?
canetoad
(19,902 posts)All you need to do is copy the link to the article, in this case I obtained it from RawStory. Then go to archive.today webpage archive and paste it in. It gives you a clean, non-paywalled copy.
D. Spaulding
(434 posts)N/A
paulkienitz
(1,486 posts)orleans
(36,567 posts)google ai:
No, the International Criminal Court (ICC) cannot prosecute Americans because the United States is not a member state of the ICC, and the ICC has no jurisdiction over the nationals of non-member states. However, there are limited circumstances where a US citizen could be prosecuted: if an American commits a crime on the territory of a member state, the ICC can have jurisdiction, notes the Coalition for the International Criminal Court.
colorado_ufo
(6,188 posts)Asking for a few hundred million friends!
soldierant
(9,181 posts)Speaking as a veteran, it is spot on and if anything understated.
debsy
(722 posts)As long as Donnie dumpster can pardon anyone he wants, they can kill anyone with no consequences. This is what happens with unchecked power. SCROTUS and the Grand Old Pricks have abdicated their responsibilities and handed our government over to a bunch of billionaire yahoos.
Fil1957
(432 posts)war crime. Even the destruction of the submarine which likely WAS transporting drugs is murder and a war crime.
Hope he and the other sick bastards responsible for these crimes gets serious prison time. It's the only way this murderous madness is going to stop.
gfarber
(163 posts)Reports from the coast say, in stride,
A strike left two clinging alive.
But whispers then spread
Of a follow-up said
Just per news accounts, not verified.
The papers described quite a shock:
A command that could bend every law on the block.
Though all thats been told
Is what journalists hold
Allegations that rightly raise talk.
Drone footage, the story relates,
Showed survivors who clung to their fates.
Then a claim made in print
Cast a serious tint
Though its only what one source narrates.
Off Trinidads coastline they say
A mission went sideways that day.
And the Post wrote a line
Of an order defined
But again, thats just reporting, not sway.
BOSSHOG
(44,241 posts)As if fucking up a minimum amount of lives isnt enough for the convicted felon who has never had a friend in his life, has never loved anyone and views associates as ATM machines.
NH Ethylene
(31,270 posts)Any survivors could come forward and present evidence that they were just fishermen, describe the horrors of the attack, etc, which would not only be very bad publicity for the administration, but it would also put a crimp on their plans for a war against Venezuela.
YoshidaYui
(44,775 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)
Does no one listen to Malcolm Nance?
Shipwack
(2,935 posts)Im thinking that these boat attacks are being done by the one of the alphabet services.
Then again, there were those enlisted men who knowingly fired drone missiles on wedding celebrations during the Afghanistan conflict.
Amaryllis
(10,875 posts)Aaron Parnas
more at link
https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/news-pete-hegseth-ordered-kill-them?
Good afternoon, everyone. Credible reports have emerged indicating that U.S. military personnel likely violated international humanitarian law, specifically involving an alleged order by Pete Hegseth to fire on individuals in the southern Caribbean who were clinging to the side of a burning boat and posed no apparent threat to the United States.
Having spent years studying international law both as an undergraduate and in law school, I can say this with absolute clarity: if these reports are accurate, this conduct would align with what international law defines as denial of quarter, the unlawful refusal to accept the surrender of persons who are defenseless, incapacitated, or otherwise incapable of mounting a threat. In plain terms, it would constitute a war crime. And I break down exactly why.
A Washington Post report described a Caribbean operation in which U.S. surveillance tracked a boat believed to be carrying drugs; according to two individuals with direct knowledge, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a spoken directive to kill everybody, leading SEAL Team 6 to strike the vessel and leave no survivors, even as two men clung to the burning, disabled boat.
Experts and officials say the suspected traffickers were not engaged in any armed conflict with the United States and posed no imminent threat; therefore, according to former Special Operations legal adviser Todd Huntley, killing them outside a lawful war context amounts to murder.
Seinan Sensei
(1,280 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,744 posts)Turbineguy
(39,687 posts)Real power for Hegseth is the ability to kill.
SCantiGOP
(14,628 posts)and it comes from Rawstory, it probably shouldnt be posted.
sop
(17,027 posts)sop
(17,027 posts)Blue Owl
(57,997 posts)The one with the iron bars, stainless,steel toilet, and no windows
COL Mustard
(7,855 posts)A lot of people were wondering what orders were illegal...Hegesth's reported "kill them all" order after the first missile strike might be the clearest example we've seen recently.
pansypoo53219
(22,779 posts)Upthevibe
(9,906 posts)niyad
(128,888 posts)Jimvanhise
(550 posts)After World War Two people in Germany and Japan were prosecuted (and sometimes executed) for things like this.