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Jilly_in_VA

(13,817 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:24 PM Dec 8

Child dies, siblings hospitalized after 'alkaline diet,' parents charged

An Arizona couple faces possible prison time after parenting practices shaped by online misinformation about medical care and nutrition left a 5-month-old child dead and three others suffering from chronic malnutrition, according to police and court records.

Police found Tremaure Stanley, 25, and Janiece Brooks, 26, living in a central Phoenix home where their youngest child was discovered dead in July 2023 after Brooks called 911 because their baby was unresponsive.

Three surviving siblings, ages 2, 4 and 5 at the time, were subsequently hospitalized with rickets, osteopenia, vitamin D deficiency and significant developmental delays, court records show.

The couple was charged with first-degree murder and four counts of child abuse. They met with prosecutors Dec. 1 to discuss a possible plea deal.

Prosecutors said the pattern of harm traces back to an extreme version of the "alkaline diet" the couple imposed on their children, combined with a growing distrust of medical care. For these children, that meant eating mostly vegetables, fruit and plant-based milks, with almost no protein, fats or fortified foods. It was a diet so low in calories and nutrients that doctors who examined the children said it led to severe malnutrition and vitamin deficiencies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/12/08/arizona-parents-charged-child-death-alkaline-diet/87669909007/?tbref=hp

People who rely on the internet for their own diet advice are crazy at best; if they impose it on their children, they are CRIMINAL

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Child dies, siblings hospitalized after 'alkaline diet,' parents charged (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Dec 8 OP
Those "parents" mercuryblues Dec 8 #1
So sad to watch this happening in our country Johnny2X2X Dec 8 #2
I agree and to add to that, its a rich bed of recruits for white supremacy. Its no surprise that so many got tulipsandroses Dec 9 #32
Lot of idiots with degrees in Health Science from YouTube University Torchlight Dec 8 #3
Unfortunately, there are some... littlemissmartypants Dec 8 #15
They are however, the easiest mark. Torchlight Dec 8 #16
There are bunches of so called educated people who are very naive. littlemissmartypants Dec 8 #17
relying on the internet for info CountAllVotes Dec 8 #4
This is an example of the stupid taking over the country and world JI7 Dec 8 #5
. dalton99a Dec 8 #6
People can find anything they want online. yardwork Dec 8 #7
Even if you're doing "plant-based" Jilly_in_VA Dec 8 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 8 #20
Commercial infant formula started in the 1870s. intheflow Dec 8 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 8 #23
Yes!! This is exactly what I was thinking! AllyCat Dec 8 #21
"the couple interpreted the children's rapid weight loss as evidence the diet was working and removing toxins," BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 8 #9
Sounds like the "toxins" needing removal were the ones called Tremaure and Janiece. GopherGal Dec 9 #24
Generally speaking, children in this age group do not need to lose weight. 3catwoman3 Dec 9 #30
We are already seeing popsdenver Dec 8 #10
The RFK Junior Diet NBachers Dec 8 #11
Put HIM on it Jilly_in_VA Dec 8 #12
That poor baby's tombstone should read: LudwigPastorius Dec 8 #13
Post removed Post removed Dec 9 #33
Doctor's advice vs anonymous posters' advice Ilsa Dec 9 #34
" ... growing distrust of medical care." Dr. T Dec 8 #14
I'd vote for the former. Hands down. AZ8theist Dec 8 #18
I treat social media like the cancer that it is. Dr. T Dec 8 #19
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Clearly there's good diet advice but there's also bad diet advice bucolic_frolic Dec 9 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 9 #28
Are you actually looking online... Melon Dec 9 #29
The internet is a giant rumor mill for the gullible. Jeebo Dec 9 #27
During my nearly half-century in pediatrics, starting quite early in my... 3catwoman3 Dec 9 #31

Johnny2X2X

(23,693 posts)
2. So sad to watch this happening in our country
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:33 PM
Dec 8

These people are not alone, there are millions of people who have gone down these internet rabbit holes and are now making misinformed health decisions.

tulipsandroses

(8,131 posts)
32. I agree and to add to that, its a rich bed of recruits for white supremacy. Its no surprise that so many got
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 05:34 PM
Dec 9

sucked into weird conspiracy theories that landed them in QAnon or MAGA. The guy that assaulted Paul Pelosi got started in the conspiracy world with nutty health conspiracies.

Torchlight

(6,316 posts)
3. Lot of idiots with degrees in Health Science from YouTube University
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:34 PM
Dec 8

I've got some distended (I'll let the malaprop stand, as it feels accurate) family members who will most likely have "I did my own research" on their tombstone. My generally negative perceptions of moms and dads who pretend to be scientists and educators remains as is...

littlemissmartypants

(31,671 posts)
15. Unfortunately, there are some...
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 03:08 PM
Dec 8

With actual degrees from universities who follow the crowd with some of these erroneous conclusions.

Poor judgment isn't limited to the uneducated.

CountAllVotes

(22,077 posts)
4. relying on the internet for info
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Dec 8

Not a great idea in some cases.

Was just reading about some people that adopted a kitten after watching youtube videos about kittens.

The world is far different than what youtube or other aspects of the internet reveal.

In this case, death and severe harm to children!

What idiots!



JI7

(93,223 posts)
5. This is an example of the stupid taking over the country and world
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:37 PM
Dec 8

not people doing basic customer service.

dalton99a

(92,146 posts)
6. .
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:40 PM
Dec 8
Court records show the couple interpreted the children’s rapid weight loss as evidence the diet was working and removing toxins, rather than as a warning sign of a medical crisis.

Two months after beginning the diet, their infant child was dead.

yardwork

(68,977 posts)
7. People can find anything they want online.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:42 PM
Dec 8

People no longer have to give away all their possessions and move across the country to join a cult. Now they can join a cult in the comfort of their own home.

No matter how they dress it up, starving your children and watching them die is still starving your children. It's torture. It's child abuse.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,817 posts)
8. Even if you're doing "plant-based"
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:30 PM
Dec 8

an infant 5 months old should have been either totally breastfed or fed soy-vased formula. No excuses for that.

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #8)

intheflow

(30,003 posts)
22. Commercial infant formula started in the 1870s.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:32 PM
Dec 8

I have no idea where you get your information, but you really need to fact check before you go posting online.

Response to intheflow (Reply #22)

AllyCat

(18,522 posts)
21. Yes!! This is exactly what I was thinking!
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:30 PM
Dec 8

Should have been on breastmilk or formula. Then again, I’ve seen a couple of their stupid videos about formula and those are pretty terrible.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,870 posts)
9. "the couple interpreted the children's rapid weight loss as evidence the diet was working and removing toxins,"
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:36 PM
Dec 8

what toxins?

Idiot parents

GopherGal

(2,795 posts)
24. Sounds like the "toxins" needing removal were the ones called Tremaure and Janiece.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 12:25 PM
Dec 9

At least the other 3 kids now have a chance to get away from their nut job parents. Hopefully the "orthorexia by proxy" that these "parents" inflicted upon their kids didn't do permanent damage to their development.

3catwoman3

(28,597 posts)
30. Generally speaking, children in this age group do not need to lose weight.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 04:40 PM
Dec 9

The infant should have been gaining weight.

popsdenver

(1,564 posts)
10. We are already seeing
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:39 PM
Dec 8

a growing epidemic of childhood diseases due to the parents not wanting vaccinations. Especially the potentially deadly diseases, that were considered CONQUERED here in the U.S. due to vaccinations.......

A parent's decision to ignore science, and not vaccinate their children, could well cause an epidemic in all the other children whose parents that have decided NOT to vaccinate their children..........

The lack of educated parents, and the MAGAots, are fueling this distrust in Vacinations.......

In so many different ways, we have gone BACKWARDS nearly a century......tearing apart government regulations, working towards another GILDED AGE, a new entire set of ROBBER BARRONS, poverty and hunger, blatant racism, etc etc etc

WASF

Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #13)

Ilsa

(63,844 posts)
34. Doctor's advice vs anonymous posters' advice
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 10:20 PM
Dec 9

on social media? I can always dig into journals, CDC site, AAP site, etc. But too many people gravitate towards conspiracy sites instead of science-based professional sites.

Dr. T

(513 posts)
14. " ... growing distrust of medical care."
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:55 PM
Dec 8

That's uniquely American. Our for-profit healthcare system is an abject failure and should not be granted blind faith. But, I agree that these knuckleheads took it to a sadistically extreme level either by sheer stupidity or sheer cruelty.

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(54,062 posts)
26. Clearly there's good diet advice but there's also bad diet advice
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 03:55 PM
Dec 9

What made them follow such extremes?

Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #26)

Jeebo

(2,551 posts)
27. The internet is a giant rumor mill for the gullible.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 04:05 PM
Dec 9

The gullible believe nonsense far too easily. I suppose that is a good definition of the word "gullible". The internet has its points, but you have to make sure your bullshit detector is healthy and functioning.

 — Ron

3catwoman3

(28,597 posts)
31. During my nearly half-century in pediatrics, starting quite early in my...
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 04:46 PM
Dec 9

...career, I often found myself thinking parenthood should require a license. Things like this are among the many reasons I still feel that way.

The mere ability to juxtapose genitalia is not a sufficient qualification/skill set for being a parent.

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