I wish we send a bunch of them up their to not be bothered by us "poor" any more.

Elon Musk and Peter Thiel: The billionaires fomenting a global race war

The tech bros' strategy to protect their wealth is to direct fear and hostility towards 'the Other' - migrants, Muslims, the 'woke'

by Joe Gill
Middle East Eye, 9 January 2025

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In other interviews, Thiel has focused on the biblical prophecy of apocalypse that he feels could come to pass as a result of the destructive technology unleashed since Hiroshima in 1945.

Nuclear proliferation is something of a close family interest. Thiel’s father was involved in the clandestine drive of apartheid South Africa to acquire nuclear-grade uranium in Namibia.

What he doesn’t mention is that his firm’s own technology is bringing that apocalypse ever closer. Palantir, a defence tech firm, is a major investor and creator of AI technologies. For over a decade it has received major contracts from across the US government - including the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI.

As a co-founder of PayPal, early investor in Facebook and founder of Palantir, Thiel is also currently taking over the UK’s NHS data under a £480m (approximately $600m) UK government contract signed in 2023. His views of public healthcare are clear: "Highways create traffic jams, welfare creates poverty, schools make people dumb and the NHS makes people sick," he said.

Palantir technologies are deployed to both US-backed wars in Gaza and Ukraine. As Responsible Statecraft reported last year, "Palantir has tested in real time its new Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) on the Ukrainian war front. It has been described as ‘an intelligence and decision-making system that can analyze enemy targets and propose battle plans.’ Other Palantir security technologies include AI for predictive policing and surveillance."

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https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/elon-musk-and-peter-thiel-south-africa-raised-billionaires-fomenting-global-race-war

Musk is an attention whore. Thiel is not. As such, America doesn't know a lot about him. He's not on the general public's radar.

Thiel is a complete fascist, "libertarian" nutjob, and dangerous to boot. He is nothing less than a sociopath, worse than Donald Trump.

That way, government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich shall never perish from the earth or any other nearby planet.



The significance of their attendance

Big picture view:

The presence of these billionaires at Trump’s inauguration reflects their alignment with his pro-business policies, which include tax reforms and deregulation initiatives likely to benefit their industries.

It also highlights Trump’s ongoing influence among tech moguls and global elites, despite political controversies surrounding his leadership.

Source: https://www.fox7austin.com/news/billionaires-trump-inauguration-2025



JD Vance Is An Investor In A Far Right Video Platform Filled With Neo-Nazi Content

By Hunter Walker
Talking Points Memo, August 1, 2024

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) has been making headlines for his “rocky rollout” since being named former President Donald Trump’s running mate last month. The bad headlines and poll numbers have been driven by Vance’s extreme comments about “childless cat ladies,” abortion, and more. Well, along with extreme comments, Vance has some extreme investments.

Vance has had a six-figure stake in Rumble, an online video platform. The company has played host to Russian propaganda and to far-right personalities like Stew Peters and Tim Pool. It has also featured even more extreme content, including explicitly neo-Nazi images and themes like this song touting the “Reich” and calling for Jews to be placed in ovens from a “dissident rapper” with a dedicated page on the site. The site features a plethora of channels and videos dedicated to the concept of “white genocide,” which is a core belief for white supremacists. It also hosts channels for explicitly white supremacist organizations including VDare and Patriot Front, which has led masked demonstrations around the country.

A former Marine, Vance was elected in 2022 after a career as a bestselling author and venture capitalist. In both the financial world and as he rose in politics, Vance has been backed by the Silicon Valley investor and right-wing donor Peter Thiel. The pair co-founded a firm, Narya Capital, in 2020. In keeping with Thiel’s preferred styling, the company was named after a reference to the “Lord of the Rings” fantasy novels.

In 2021, Narya Capital made a major investment in Rumble. The investment, which made Narya one of Rumble’s top shareholders, also gave the firm a seat on Rumble’s board. Financial disclosures filed by Vance in conjunction with his Senate bid also show that he made a personal investment in Rumble that was valued between $100,000 and $250,000.

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The stake is notable because it represents a direct financial link between Vance and a key outlet for some of the most extreme elements of the far right. Vance’s stake in Rumble was the subject of a New York Times piece during his Senate race in 2022. That story focused on Rumble hosting the Kremlin-backed propaganda network RT, but gave less attention to the extensive hate speech on the site.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/where-things-stand/jd-vance-is-an-investor-in-a-far-right-video-platform-filled-with-neo-nazi-content

MAGA nation has no idea they slave for the 1-percent of 1-percent who resident George W. "Baby Doc" Bush toiled for: “There are two kinds of people in the world: The Mores and The Have-Mores."

Must may be more spontaneous. Thiel is a shifty puppet-master. Vance is a shape-shifter. They are all extremely dangerous.

the English working class is out in the streets knocking heads. I have a former friend over there who has hit the streets with the Tories in those riots. He tells me that the Labour Party is now dead, dead, dead! and says that with some glee, as if he and his friends have accomplished something that is actually good.

At the same time, the working schmucks in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland can look forward to the dirtbag thief Thiel stealing lots of money from NHS off the top to line his own filthy pockets, and screw working people across the UK. Soon, Brits will be able to look forward to the same evil shit we face here in Murika.

Shitty, rationed healthcare with financially crippling copays - a confusing system designed to extort the maximum money from sick, vulnerable people so shareholders can have HIGHER PROFITS, CEOs can make appalling incomes for all the 'value' they add and finally they can be like us and bask in HEALTH CARE DEBT!

That's pretty fucking sick. We have to get rid of these fucking billionaire parasites.

For the billionaire team owner.

Maybe he can leave the U.S.A. too, if anyone will take him.

That’s all I ask.

BYEEEE!

GTFO. And take your fellow billionaire parasites with you.

Let him leave. No one will miss him. In fact, let him leave the country while he's at it. Didn't he plan to move to New Zealand?

And feed him to the spiders.

charge?

LOSER

these folks are something else ...

Avoiding a billion dollar expense by simply picking a new place to live sounds like an easy decision.

And it’s likely much more than that since his net worth is tied up in assets that would draw large capital gains taxes federally and in California if he had to sell them to pay the tax.

and... of course... he would then pay $50M/year in interest on the loan with no earning asset to offset it. That would pretty quickly exceed the amount of the avoided income tax.

Much easier to just say "I don't live here any more" and sell his Hollywood Hills home. He has much nicer ones in Hawaii and Florida.

Or otherwise do whatever is needed to avoid the tax entirely.

Just disputing the capital gains point. If he decides he can live with paying the tax, or can't easily avoid it, then he'll finance it rather than selling assets at a profit.

... and being a non-resident would further complicate his life and reduce his political influence.

Commuting in a private jet grows wearisome.

Thiel was great on South Park!

I weep for him.

I hate them for their values … money trumps humanity

His dream heaven. Low taxes and few laws.

Move there, sicko.

a floating city without regulation, a libertarian "Love Boat".

If not then they need to go after their real estate and nail any houses or condos valued at over say one or two million dollars.

would be long gone before any tax on the rich every comes about and works it's way through all the courts. And then of course this Republican Supreme Court would find some tiny technical excuse for not allowing it to happen.
I can only imagine that it would be extremely hard for the U.S. Government to know how much money they have, because it has been offshored long long ago, invested and compounding their money without the U.S. States and U.S. Federal Government ever even knowing about it.............

The Rich even get credit cards from these secretive nations, and the rich charge every last thing they can, and many years ago our government, I think during the WBush? years, cannot subpoena an individuals credit card statements from any other countries banks.......

If things continue this way, in the near future, maybe at the most a year or two, The Uber Rich top 1% will have succeeded in a wealth transfer of all the U.S. money to themselves.........Leaving the other 99% in destitute as mere serfs and peasants.

All they have to do, is once again, trash the stock market like they have done many times in the past, dating back to Reagan's "Black Tuesday"? All of the retirement funds, and investment accounts holding people's future retirements are invested in the stock markets, etc etc etc and BOOM......An immediate repeat of the Great Depression, but far far worse this time around, and permanent.
If you want a description of the great depression, read or re-read Steinbecks GRAPES OF WRATH, and find a day by day accounting of people trying to exist, having lost everything, and what the Hoovervilles were like. And how the Corporations took full advantage of the situation that they in fact created. The Uber rich would like nothing better than to destroy all the rules and regulations that FDR put in place to pull us out of the depression and get rid of the Robber Barrons and Gilded Age. And here we sit, on the edge of what happened in the 20's...... De-ja-vue (sp?) all over again......

Well, that is the problem right there.

Far too many don't seem able to understand that

Mass. implemented a 4% surtax on income above one million dollars. Back then there was a lot of screaming and threats from said millionaires, but the expected mass exodus of the wealthy failed to materialize. On the contrary, the number of millionaires actually grew since the law was passed, and Massachusetts got a nice little windfall in tax revenue.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/04/28/how-many-millionaires-live-in-massachusetts-number-grows-after-higher-income-tax-goes-into-effect/

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2025/08/millionaires-tax-cash-flooded-the-states-coffers-last-year-heres-how-that-happened.html

by the Salvation Army bucket without fail but has his hand out for government money. Greedy pricks.

since it couldn't be apportioned by population among the states.

There’s an argument (a poor one that couldn’t possibly get by the current courts) that unrealized income could be taxed. But property/wealth isn’t covered by 16A

only to real estate and tangible personal property.

… why do we need 16A in the first place?

Now we have the Sixteenth amendment AND the court case that necessitated the amendment has now also been overruled.

On edit: Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust

might be true.

Wonder which red state hell will end up with him.

Can he leave the country and move to Russia?

Fucking cry baby.

Exactly how much money does any one need? How many houses, cars, yachts, villas in the south of France, . . . .

can never get enough external validation.

It's so obvious, the nothingness within these greedy, needy shells.

They should be in treatment to rehabilitate with humans, but they would never admit a problem.

These people who are rich beyond our imagination are so greedy and entitled that they can't even part with a minute fraction of their money. They could do so much good with their extreme wealth, but they choose to not only hoard it, but try to use it to gain power and hurt others who are on the other end of the financial spectrum. A total lack of decency and human empathy seems to be the common thread among these disgusting lowlifes.

Fuck that piece of shit and his horrible surveillance business.

is a fundamental right protected by The Constitution.

that anyone above a certain level of net worth should lose their 14th Amendment protections?

I'm saying Thiel is a piece of shit.

then we agree. He's a POS but doesn't deserve to have his rights violated

But is gathering every possible detail he can grab on all of us. Why else except for control?

Theil put the Vulture into Capitalism.

collectively - it is because the folks before him paid their taxes, and the current workers who used their labor to help him build his riches. He was able to become a great success because of his own skills, but ALSO the society around him who (with their ancestors) not only labored, but built the country, made the roads, provided the schools, etc - they created the infrastructure and atmosphere (free market) where he was able to thrive.

THAT is the expanded answer as to why he should be paying his fair share.

They are a waste of resources.

Thiel is a parasite.

principle is money. There is nothing else to these people, nothing.

He isn't going anywhere.

I bet his true effective tax rate is in the single digits.

Here is the truth about taxation in the US. Anybody making millions in annual income has ample opportunity to shelter their income. And as they get into the billions, that becomes practically tax-free, hidden in numerous corporations, many offshore.

Meanwhile, the working people pay a multitude of taxes, most of which are regressive, hitting low income people the hardest: gas tax, sales tax, social security and other payroll taxes, cell phone taxes, toll roads, etc. It is endless.

Thiel is a fucking whiner.

it should be a 90% increase. At least Federally.

as a married gay man, he should be damned glad he is in California. he could be living in a conservative state where the lawmakers want to outlaw homosexuality and gay marriage. but damn, his bank account would be healthier and that seems to be all that matters to him. these greedy bastards have lost the ability to think clearly about anything, its all about how many billions they have hoarded.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

There's a reason they're hear to complain: because this is where all the billions they skimmed got produced.