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applegrove

(130,012 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 06:37 PM 12 hrs ago

If Trump gets grocery corporations to lower their pricing algorithms

that is proof it is all collusion. Just monitor the prices of domestically farmed, produced groceries. If they come way down then we know. There was a collusion case prosecuted in Canada on the price of bread.

Trump Says Midterms Will Be About ‘Pricing’

HuffPost (@huffpost.com) 2025-12-27T18:31:16.876Z
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If Trump gets grocery corporations to lower their pricing algorithms (Original Post) applegrove 12 hrs ago OP
"Pricing", eh? I hope he gets egg on his face, again. marble falls 12 hrs ago #1
People will realize dweller 12 hrs ago #2
If Trump gets grocery corporations to lower their pricing, He is still a pedo !! stonecutter357 12 hrs ago #3
Canadian laws do not govern pricing in the US. n/t Ms. Toad 12 hrs ago #4
I mentioned that as an example, not to imply we were under the same laws. applegrove 12 hrs ago #7
your point was obvious (to me anyway) ret5hd 11 hrs ago #8
Obviously not. Who here said it does?? Disaffected 5 hrs ago #21
But, "Affordability is a hoax." Bayard 12 hrs ago #5
A lot of grocery items are low profit margin Turbineguy 12 hrs ago #6
Back During The Grocery Shortage Days During The Pandemic - I Talked With Some Stockboys That Were Working The Shelves.. global1 11 hrs ago #9
How do you lower the price of coffee and other import items? Keepthesoulalive 10 hrs ago #10
I would never sue someone NOT to lower prices. Please get lower grocery prices by any means. Melon 10 hrs ago #11
But when they do that for Trump and the jig is up, applegrove 10 hrs ago #12
He'll no I don't want a rebate. I right contracts for a living. I write rebates for suckers. Melon 10 hrs ago #13
I love the 'special pricing' fraud Conjuay 9 hrs ago #14
That's right. Melon 9 hrs ago #15
Grocery store net profits are only around 2% MichMan 8 hrs ago #16
Walmarts margins Net in 2019 pre Covid 1.30% versus 2025 Net margin 2.85%. 119% improvements in margins Melon 8 hrs ago #17
Would you be satisfied if your retirement savings made a 2.85% annual return? MichMan 7 hrs ago #19
There model was high volume...low margin forever. Melon 7 hrs ago #20
As I've said before... gulliver 8 hrs ago #18

applegrove

(130,012 posts)
7. I mentioned that as an example, not to imply we were under the same laws.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:04 PM
12 hrs ago

Corporations can be held accountable.

Turbineguy

(39,800 posts)
6. A lot of grocery items are low profit margin
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 06:59 PM
12 hrs ago

plus there's a lot of competition. I don't see where he can have much influence. Except bankrupting all farmers, that would bring a temporary price drop. Until people started starving.

global1

(26,359 posts)
9. Back During The Grocery Shortage Days During The Pandemic - I Talked With Some Stockboys That Were Working The Shelves..
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:43 PM
11 hrs ago

they told me that they had plenty of product in the back room - but their superiors were telling them to make the shelves look like - they were almost picked clean. The store raised prices on the products - because they knew they could get away with raising the prices during this bogus shortage.

Most retailers during that period did the same and they made a killing in profit during that time.

You remember. When everyone was out stocking their house with goods because they thought they wouldn't have anything to eat. The run on paper goods (toilet paper, hand towels, kleenex).

Those were the hay days for those stores.

I'm sure that these retailers are taking advantage of this situation too. This time they could blame it on the tariffs - so they are pushing the top end of product pricing again.

Everytime I go to the grocery store - I'm paying more money for the same product I used to get cheaper.

Might as well pile on. Everybody is doing it.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,102 posts)
10. How do you lower the price of coffee and other import items?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:12 PM
10 hrs ago

If the grocery stores want to go under all they have to do is attempt to appease president dumb ass.

Melon

(992 posts)
11. I would never sue someone NOT to lower prices. Please get lower grocery prices by any means.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:16 PM
10 hrs ago

applegrove

(130,012 posts)
12. But when they do that for Trump and the jig is up,
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:26 PM
10 hrs ago

don't you want a rebate? And a promise that they will not use algorithmic pricing to collude again? Otherwise they will just raise prices under Democratic Presidents and destroy their administrations and lower prices when a Republican President tells them to.

Melon

(992 posts)
13. He'll no I don't want a rebate. I right contracts for a living. I write rebates for suckers.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:40 PM
10 hrs ago

I want lower prices at the point of sale. Full stop. I see where the costs are being inflated. The farmers are benefiting from high prices. Lower the prices.

Rebates mask the price of goods. They lock in high margin, tie the consumer, and then rely on a rebate to equate back to a true market price. We use them to hide cost and pricing and bind customers. Rebates can be removed. They don’t allow supply and demand to change markets.

Conjuay

(2,874 posts)
14. I love the 'special pricing' fraud
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:11 PM
9 hrs ago

Pulled by Walgreens.
Inflate all the prices and then have special lower prices for the people who join their BS loyalty program.
I won't shop there.

Melon

(992 posts)
15. That's right.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:08 PM
9 hrs ago

The corporations that survived forever ever at 13% margins got used to 25% margins during Covid. The corporations and the stock market got used to those earnings. Raw material margins in manufacturing and base chemicals are down to pre-COVID. The corporations are maintaining the higher margins and preventing deflation. Products close to the consumer like milk and eggs are down in price, but highly processed goods have inflated margins. Negotiate on behalf of consumers to return margins to pre covid numbers and our prices will come down without gimmicks that hurt the markets.

Melon

(992 posts)
17. Walmarts margins Net in 2019 pre Covid 1.30% versus 2025 Net margin 2.85%. 119% improvements in margins
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:36 PM
8 hrs ago

Did your salary go up 119% also?.

MichMan

(16,567 posts)
19. Would you be satisfied if your retirement savings made a 2.85% annual return?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:57 PM
7 hrs ago

I wouldn't. I was still working in 2019 and retired in 2021. I am now dependent on SS and my IRA.

Melon

(992 posts)
20. There model was high volume...low margin forever.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:02 AM
7 hrs ago

The point is margins in that sector have doubled since Covid. That is the problem. But you are ok with doubling the net margin to pay the corporations and investor returns versus lower grocery pricing. The raw material prices have dropped but the money is absorbed in the middle before the consumer, which you are ok with. You are arguing for expanded margins to the stores.

gulliver

(13,702 posts)
18. As I've said before...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:52 PM
8 hrs ago

We are living in a programocracy. We need our leaders to be really sharp when it comes to understanding IT and AI in particular. I don't know how we get leaders that can do that. We can get sincere leaders. We can get strong leaders. We can get smart leaders. But how you get leaders who thoroughly comprehend the situation we're in, I don't know.

They have no incentive to lead us. We made the job of leadership untenable. We flood the field with dimestore charisma, and photogenic people. So-called fighters. It's just a nightmare.

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