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Miles Archer

(21,624 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:31 AM 13 hrs ago

Rove thinks Trump's obsessive, unrelenting flood the zone bullshit may be working against him. LIAR! TAKE IT BACK!

(In a year-end Wall Street Journal opinion column published Dec. 30, Rove) said: “No American president has ever ruled the news cycle like Donald Trump. He’s omnipresent, completely dominating coverage, constantly in front of cameras and inundating us with round-the-clock Truth Social posts.

“His pace is unrelenting. He throws at reporters so much fluff—personal asides, fulminations about adversaries real and imagined, commentary on culture and self-congratulation—that the press and public often ignore important things."

Entering the year of the midterms, Rove, 75, argued that “there are signs that the public is tiring of his hyperbole and insatiable desire for retribution,” predicting that many Americans will increasingly hear only “the offensive or cruel things he says.”

He added: “He’s gone way too far by slapping his name on buildings (the Donald J. Trump and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts) and government programs (the Navy’s “Trump-class” battleship). He might receive a fawning reaction from his MAGA base, but the average American finds such narcissism off-putting."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-veteran-strategist-karl-rove-admits-people-are-tiring-of-donald-trump/
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Rove thinks Trump's obsessive, unrelenting flood the zone bullshit may be working against him. LIAR! TAKE IT BACK! (Original Post) Miles Archer 13 hrs ago OP
Trump fatique its like chalk against the blackboard. Historic NY 13 hrs ago #1
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #2
Exactly PatSeg 10 hrs ago #17
I agree 👍 MustLoveBeagles 10 hrs ago #18
True. Republicans have a tendency to overplay oasis 13 hrs ago #3
Special place in Hell for Karl Rove Attilatheblond 12 hrs ago #4
It would never work with real journalists Jarqui 12 hrs ago #5
Have to kind of agree with this commentary. And I think the evidence is backing up stopdiggin 12 hrs ago #6
I'd say the midterms will tell us everything we need to know about the road to 2028 Miles Archer 12 hrs ago #9
I take a longer view. (in that I'm pretty sure we WON'T be seeing the fullness of stopdiggin 12 hrs ago #13
Republicans have been timing it so the most damage WON'T happen before the midterms Miles Archer 10 hrs ago #16
exactly so. -(nt)- stopdiggin 5 hrs ago #21
The whole "Biden is to blame for Everything" is getting Ars Longa 11 hrs ago #15
I was tired of Trump in 2016 Johonny 12 hrs ago #7
the day of the escalator rampartd 12 hrs ago #11
I was tired of Trump in the '80s. Hugin 12 hrs ago #12
Fuck you Karl Rove. Botany 12 hrs ago #8
Relax....NO one listens to the Turd Blossom democratsruletheday 8 hrs ago #19
So Rove's approach was to "flood the zone with shit". Blumancru 12 hrs ago #10
Rove made Trump possible DemocracyForever 11 hrs ago #14
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that guy . . .. hatrack 8 hrs ago #20

PatSeg

(52,027 posts)
17. Exactly
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 02:34 PM
10 hrs ago

I don't want him to be quiet and retiring. Until he's gone, we need to have him in the public eye on a daily basis, lest people forget what an abomination his presidency is.

The American public has such a short attention span which is evident by how many voters seemed to forget his first term and the COVID pandemic. Well, he's worse now than he's ever been, so let him keep digging his own grave.



oasis

(53,331 posts)
3. True. Republicans have a tendency to overplay
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:46 AM
13 hrs ago

their hand. Trump does it on steroids.

Triple dose.

Attilatheblond

(8,234 posts)
4. Special place in Hell for Karl Rove
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:50 AM
12 hrs ago

Hope he gets a big welcome from Lee Atwater when he arrives

Jarqui

(10,817 posts)
5. It would never work with real journalists
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:51 AM
12 hrs ago

Most of US media is controlled by a very few who all go along with it

stopdiggin

(14,982 posts)
6. Have to kind of agree with this commentary. And I think the evidence is backing up
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:51 AM
12 hrs ago

this point of view.
(I have obviously been wrong at times in the past about the general 'suckiness' and 'sh*ttyness' of the greater American attitude/vibe, and voting public. Still - that doesn't mean that I will be wrong every time ... )

Miles Archer

(21,624 posts)
9. I'd say the midterms will tell us everything we need to know about the road to 2028
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:03 PM
12 hrs ago

Whatever Trump could do to "fix" the economy he wrecked won't happen, because he's too busy yelling at voters for not appreciating him enough.

Tens of millions of Americans are about to get screwed on healthcare, so we'll see how many voters believe Trump when he blames Biden.

Until voters make a DIRECT CORRELATION between THEIR PAIN and Trump / Republicans as the CAUSE OF IT, nothing's going to change.

And part of the problem...100% intentional on Trump's part...is that he's simply worn much of America out.

The whole "ballroom" fiasco, the Kennedy Center, the "Donald J Trump Institute of Peace"...

...if he's still breathing, he could EASILY continue at this pace for the next three years.

And the only problem for the people expecting new leadership to undo all of it is that he's doing these things incrementally.

NO ONE is going to "undo" four years of reckless spending overnight.

No idea how the "reversals" would be prioritized. After all, the "time out" that Trump and MAGAt Moses Mikey have taken from actually running the government will need to be addressed first.

stopdiggin

(14,982 posts)
13. I take a longer view. (in that I'm pretty sure we WON'T be seeing the fullness of
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:48 PM
12 hrs ago

the damage and destruction wrought - in another 6-8 months. And therefore - not sure that we will see the 'watershed' moment that many expect in 26. The political body is perhaps not moribund - but it is very, very ill. Bouncing back to its feet - is not, and probably should not be - the expectation.)

Miles Archer

(21,624 posts)
16. Republicans have been timing it so the most damage WON'T happen before the midterms
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:53 PM
10 hrs ago

So you're right. And if they squeak through the midterms, while we MAY end up electing a Democratic president in 2028, the chances of a "blue wave" in 2028 dramatically decrease.

Ars Longa

(413 posts)
15. The whole "Biden is to blame for Everything" is getting
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:03 PM
11 hrs ago

increasingly eye-rolling........even with his own rancid bunch!

And,.... HE CAN'T STOP DOING IT!!!!

rampartd

(3,704 posts)
11. the day of the escalator
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:06 PM
12 hrs ago

1 knew he would win, knew it would be bad, but i expected a free market capitalist dystopia, not a soviet style cult of personality.

2. knew that 1/2 of americans would love it.

3. i never dreamed it would be permanent. it is. they are dug in until we lose a world war.

Hugin

(37,358 posts)
12. I was tired of Trump in the '80s.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:16 PM
12 hrs ago

My yelling of “No! Wait! Stop! Don’t!” went entirely unheeded. But, it usually does.

democratsruletheday

(1,810 posts)
19. Relax....NO one listens to the Turd Blossom
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 04:20 PM
8 hrs ago

he's completely irrelevant. Has been for years really.

Blumancru

(202 posts)
10. So Rove's approach was to "flood the zone with shit".
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:05 PM
12 hrs ago

What is his criticism, that Chomolini is flooding the zone with TOO MUCH shit?
And who was Rove’s biological father anyway? Where did such a sorry collection of genes come from?

DemocracyForever

(10 posts)
14. Rove made Trump possible
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:51 PM
11 hrs ago

by creating the Presidential election theft road map in Florida in 2000 that Trump used in 2020 and since 2020.

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