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Ocelot II

(129,524 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:15 PM 14 hrs ago

I've been at a vigil for Alex Pretti.

These are happening in neighborhoods all over. We came out because because we couldn't just stay home. We couldn't not come out. And we're not giving up.





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I've been at a vigil for Alex Pretti. (Original Post) Ocelot II 14 hrs ago OP
God bless Minneapolis and damn those responsible! surfered 14 hrs ago #1
I was with you in spirit. riversedge 14 hrs ago #2
me too gopiscrap 13 hrs ago #13
Trump's already got the shooter to federal housing somewhere...hope they can't hide there forever... wcmagumba 13 hrs ago #3
Ocelot II, I didn't realize you were there. I'm so sorry this is happening near your home. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #4
Beautiful. Sparkly 13 hrs ago #5
... MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #6
We all stand with Minnesota and Minnesotans. Pretti and Good are in our hearts. usonian 13 hrs ago #7
"Pretti Good" -- there's something there... Sparkly 13 hrs ago #8
There's an odd pattern to that. I think I'll change my name to Evil. usonian 13 hrs ago #9
ICE is why we can't have nice things UpInArms 13 hrs ago #10
OMG murielm99 11 hrs ago #23
On behalf of all of us who can't be there in person, JMCKUSICK 13 hrs ago #11
K&R orangecrush 13 hrs ago #12
K&R Solly Mack 12 hrs ago #14
when will the mayor and governor do something? quakerboy 12 hrs ago #15
What are they supposed to do? They have spoken very forcefully at press conferences Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #17
words without actions mean little quakerboy 12 hrs ago #20
Local officers "following" ICE Sparkly 11 hrs ago #26
that is what it should mean quakerboy 10 hrs ago #27
Waiting on the politicians just leads to more people dead. Queso Delicioso 12 hrs ago #18
thats what's happening now quakerboy 12 hrs ago #22
Is this good enough for you? ShazzieB 11 hrs ago #25
That seems like a lot of words, which when boiled down quakerboy 8 hrs ago #30
Thinking of you all. Wshing you Strength, and Safety! electric_blue68 12 hrs ago #16
DURec leftstreet 12 hrs ago #19
K&R 2naSalit 12 hrs ago #21
Portland here: We live on a busy road and have placed an electric candle CareyOn 11 hrs ago #24
... love_katz 8 hrs ago #28
Mahalo, Ocelot... the photos are Cha 8 hrs ago #29
💧💔 littlemissmartypants 7 hrs ago #31
K & R malaise 6 hrs ago #32
K & R Spazito 2 hrs ago #33
Thank you Ocelot II Clouds Passing 2 hrs ago #34
With Minnesota Wild blueberry 30 min ago #35
K&R betsuni 1 min ago #36

wcmagumba

(5,760 posts)
3. Trump's already got the shooter to federal housing somewhere...hope they can't hide there forever...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:20 PM
13 hrs ago

Scrivener7

(58,614 posts)
4. Ocelot II, I didn't realize you were there. I'm so sorry this is happening near your home.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:20 PM
13 hrs ago

I can't imagine. Please be safe and know Minnesota is in our hearts.

usonian

(23,812 posts)
7. We all stand with Minnesota and Minnesotans. Pretti and Good are in our hearts.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:28 PM
13 hrs ago

Forever.

quakerboy

(14,751 posts)
15. when will the mayor and governor do something?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:27 PM
12 hrs ago

Its now on the leaders and law enforcement whether they will begin protecting the citizens or continue to stand silent in the face of this terrorist invasion.

Ocelot II

(129,524 posts)
17. What are they supposed to do? They have spoken very forcefully at press conferences
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:39 PM
12 hrs ago

about their opposition to ICE. They have been anything but silent, but unfortunately state and local police have no power over federal law enforcement. The governor has called out the MN National Guard to assist the police in de-escalation.

quakerboy

(14,751 posts)
20. words without actions mean little
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:56 PM
12 hrs ago

Since when are federal employees exempt from law enforcement?

By your argument, if an fbi agent decides to hold up a gas station, local police cant arrest him. Its nonsense.

Every ice convoy to leave their hq could be accompanied/followed by a local pd vehicle. With body cams and vehicle cameras. Police officers do have the ability to arrest other LE who they personally observe breaking the law. They certainly can give testimony in court about what they personally observe.

I suspect if legitimate law enforcement was present to observe (as opposed to to collaborate) and enforce the laws, ice would get a lot less likely to blatantly break the law in their presence.

Sparkly

(24,854 posts)
26. Local officers "following" ICE
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:38 AM
11 hrs ago

That wouldn't work, first because local LE is so vastly outnumbered by these anonymous, masked, untrained thugs. In addition, the Cosplaying GI-Joes are federal, so - someone correct me if I'm wrong - they sort of outrank the state if there were a conflict between the two, absurd though that is.

Local law enforcement is not collaborating - that is the very meaning of a sanctuary city or state.

quakerboy

(14,751 posts)
27. that is what it should mean
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:35 AM
10 hrs ago

But facts are that even in sanctuary areas police often find ways to help feds rather than uphold the law of their locality.

And at least as yet they do precious little to stand up for the citizens they are supposed to serve and protect.

Also, just to be real, law enforcement isn't sworn to uphold the law only if/when they outnumber lawbreakers.

Id also argue that if the police were to stand with the citizens, the citizens would stand with the police. And together they outnumber ice by a large margin.

Queso Delicioso

(184 posts)
18. Waiting on the politicians just leads to more people dead.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:45 PM
12 hrs ago

It's time for the people to fight back. With actual fighting.

quakerboy

(14,751 posts)
22. thats what's happening now
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:09 AM
12 hrs ago

Both waiting in politicians leading to deaths.

And fighting without fighting. Thats literally what the man they murdered today was doing.

quakerboy

(14,751 posts)
30. That seems like a lot of words, which when boiled down
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:12 AM
8 hrs ago

really only state that he has tasked the national guard with protecting ICE.

Let me know when those national guard troops are there, facing the ICE terrorists (not the citizens that ice are terrorizing). Let me know when the local police or the local national guard prevent ice from throwing tear gas and flashbangs, or are at least in the way taking the brunt of those attacks to protect their fellow citizens.

So in short.. Not especially. I heard nothing in his words or propositions that seems likely to prevent or even slow ICE from their next murder.

CareyOn

(81 posts)
24. Portland here: We live on a busy road and have placed an electric candle
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:23 AM
11 hrs ago

in the window to remember Alex Pretti's life and recognize his bravery and that of the people of Minnesota.

Cha

(317,404 posts)
29. Mahalo, Ocelot... the photos are
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:02 AM
8 hrs ago

really beautiful. 💔💔☮️🌺🌻🌸🕯️🕊️💜

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