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Botany

(76,566 posts)
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:03 AM 4 hrs ago

How Did 435.98% of Voters Cast Ballots in Precinct 760, Northampton County, Pennsylvania?

Over the past year, we’ve documented corruption at every layer of the U.S. electoral system—from back-door “de minimis” updates to voting equipment¹ and fake “ghost counties,” to more than 1.5 million votes for Kamala Harris disappearing in real time on Election Night.² We found it, we documented it, and we sounded the alarm—whether anyone wanted to hear it or not.

Now, a growing number of independent journalists are arriving at the same conclusion, following the evidence to the same unavoidable place.

“This is a 6,500-word article that can be summed up as follows: the GOP had motive, they had means, and they had opportunity. Every institution that could have stopped them chose to look the other way—or participate—in stealing the 2024 election. The proof is here.”
— Christopher Armitage, The Existentialist Republic³

Yet even as more than 41% of Democrats believe the election was stolen, Hakeem Jeffries maintains that there are “no election deniers” on this side of the aisle.⁴ And now, Ken Martin has announced that the Democratic National Committee will not release its internal analysis of the 2024 presidential election.⁵

Snip

Donald Trump publicly thanked Elon Musk for his knowledge of “those vote-counting computers” in Pennsylvania²⁵—and state attorneys general didn’t bat an eye:

Trump, “So, thank you to Elon.”

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/how-did-43598-of-voters-cast-ballots

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These are real facts and real #s. Not kooky extremist ideas.





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How Did 435.98% of Voters Cast Ballots in Precinct 760, Northampton County, Pennsylvania? (Original Post) Botany 4 hrs ago OP
kick Baitball Blogger 4 hrs ago #1
Ask fleaon. SheltieLover 3 hrs ago #2
There's no way that pos won every battleground state. Emile 3 hrs ago #3
Funny how every anomaly, voter suppression move, people voting for Ds down ticket but skipping the Botany 3 hrs ago #5
i've been skeptical all along. barbtries 2 hrs ago #28
2024 was the heist of the century. 31st Street Bridge 1 hr ago #35
Kick. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #4
Google AI's response to your question... Native 3 hrs ago #6
So what about all the other counties in PA that had precincts with huge over votes? Botany 3 hrs ago #8
I'm not saying I don't think there was fraud, which is what I think you might be implying. Native 3 hrs ago #10
Sounds like right wing talking points KS Toronado 2 hrs ago #20
That is still over an 80% turn out edhopper 2 hrs ago #26
Pennsylvania Statewide turnout in 2024 was 77%. 80% is right in line with that. Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #43
K & R malaise 3 hrs ago #7
Pre election polling showed Kamala with Mystery To Me 3 hrs ago #9
Wasn't that just one poll? Kaleva 3 hrs ago #12
Memory is a bit hazy about all the Iowa polls Mystery To Me 1 hr ago #38
Most polls showed Trump winning Iowa Kaleva 1 hr ago #42
This message was self-deleted by its author tintinvotes 1 hr ago #41
Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado 2 hrs ago #22
I see that precinct 760 had 903 registered voters in 2024 Kaleva 3 hrs ago #11
Can you share the link? EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #13
Election Truth Alliance is one of the sources. Botany 3 hrs ago #15
That's a complete avoidance of the fact that Election Truth Alliance doesn't cite their source EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #24
Page 366 Kaleva 2 hrs ago #23
Substack article that cites other substack articles biocube 3 hrs ago #14
Yeah, right NJCher 3 hrs ago #18
Ridiculous. There has been no votes to fund ICE since yesterday. Wiz Imp 51 min ago #44
I believe Republicans cheated in 2024, but I want Democratic officials to wake up to the their 2026 plans. Lonestarblue 3 hrs ago #16
Because as everyone knows but no one will say it out loud Javaman 3 hrs ago #17
I have written Joe Rogan about Elon's supposed app that gave him the election results four hours before anyone else. waterwatcher123 3 hrs ago #19
This is how Cheneybush "won" "re-election" in 2004 DFW 2 hrs ago #21
The 2004 election still stabs at my heart. What an accepted President John Kerry would've been on the world stage. NBachers 1 hr ago #34
Banking regulations changed at that time too. Notice you no longer got cancelled checks back Attilatheblond 1 hr ago #37
Thanks for that reminder. It's impossible for me to believe that 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2024 were all valid elections KPN 47 min ago #45
Just ask Elmo, the DOGE Trolls, and Ellison. They know because they built the tools to do it. Ford_Prefect 2 hrs ago #25
It's vitally important that the illusion that our votes decide how we live be maintained. Autumn 2 hrs ago #27
And they seem to be doing that adequately enough for a large majority of Americans it seems. Nevermind that they KPN 34 min ago #48
Yup. She. Won. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #29
Wait for it......... Clouds Passing 2 hrs ago #30
That didn't take long! KPN 31 min ago #49
I LIVE IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY, PA! THIS REPORT IS BOGUS, A MISREADING OF THE.... ColoringFool 2 hrs ago #31
Embarrassing Sympthsical 1 hr ago #32
Exactly. Scruffy1 1 hr ago #39
If the 2024 election was stolen and it's this obvious... Jedi Guy 1 hr ago #33
Yes. Computers count the votes the way they are programmed to do. annielion 1 hr ago #36
Go back to the 1st article in the series Botany 1 hr ago #40
I appreciate you posting these articles annielion 13 min ago #50
This message was self-deleted by its author lildDemz 40 min ago #46
... please stop peddling those fantasies, thanks ... TomWilm 37 min ago #47

Botany

(76,566 posts)
5. Funny how every anomaly, voter suppression move, people voting for Ds down ticket but skipping the
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:36 AM
3 hrs ago

Presidential vote like in North Carolina, voting blocks like the right for women to choose what to do
with their bodies that had won just about every election post the overturning of Roe v Wade disappeared, during the 2024 election, Trump’s train wreck of a campaign, Harris and Walz’s huge turn outs @ campaign
events, bomb threats to polling places, the lies about school kids getting trans operations, hanging chad,
SCOTUS ruling, the price of eggs lies, and so on always has favored republicans.

If there was no manipulation of the vote then a simple bell shaped curve would show “events on both
sides” but that never happens.

LIBERAL MEDIA

barbtries

(31,179 posts)
28. i've been skeptical all along.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:04 AM
2 hrs ago

here in NC Democrats won almost all the down ballot races.

but I just felt, and still do, that I don't get any mileage from dwelling on it. I need to address the actual conditions on the ground right now.

I am glad that people are doing this research and fervently hope that one day, there will be justice.

PS in my book gw lost twice. so there's that. I am not a kook.

31st Street Bridge

(119 posts)
35. 2024 was the heist of the century.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:51 AM
1 hr ago

That's why the Child Rapist Felon-47 keeps saying 2020 was rigged; so no one on our side dare say 2024 really was rigged. History may one day reveal all the chicanery we're living through. There's so much $$$$ to steal, they'll do anything to rig every vote. After all, what media will report it?

Native

(7,314 posts)
6. Google AI's response to your question...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:41 AM
3 hrs ago
The reported turnout of 435.98% in Precinct 760 (Lower Mt. Bethel Township, Lower District) during the 2024 election was an artifact of how state and county systems handled a combined precinct.
Combined Precinct Data: For the 2024 general election, Northampton County combined "Lower Mt. Bethel D Lower" (Precinct 760) and "Lower Mt. Bethel D Independent" for tabulation purposes.
Voter Registration Mismatch: The Pennsylvania state reporting file listed only 164 registered voters for Precinct 760 specifically. However, the actual vote count of 715 for that location included voters from both the "Lower" and "Independent" districts (which had 739 registered voters of its own).
The Calculation Error: Dividing the combined total of 715 votes by only the 164 registered voters assigned to the "Lower" sub-precinct in the state file created the mathematically impossible percentage of 435.98%.
Official Confirmation: While unofficial election night reporting by private vendors sometimes contains these clerical data-mapping errors, official county records reflect a normal turnout percentage when both combined registration totals are accounted for.
Northampton County has experienced other clerical issues in the past, such as a 2023 human error where judicial retention race names were flipped on printed paper ballots, though the machine barcodes recorded the votes correctly.

Native

(7,314 posts)
10. I'm not saying I don't think there was fraud, which is what I think you might be implying.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:55 AM
3 hrs ago

edhopper

(37,139 posts)
26. That is still over an 80% turn out
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:33 AM
2 hrs ago

which looks high. How were the votes compared to past elections.
How does this compare to 2020?

Wiz Imp

(9,145 posts)
43. Pennsylvania Statewide turnout in 2024 was 77%. 80% is right in line with that.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:18 AM
1 hr ago

Thiswillhold is a total fraud. None of their claims are true.

Mystery To Me

(37 posts)
9. Pre election polling showed Kamala with
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:54 AM
3 hrs ago

47% to 44% lead In Iowa. Trump won the state by 13.2 points. In times past, a discrepancy like that would have been highly suspect.

Mystery To Me

(37 posts)
38. Memory is a bit hazy about all the Iowa polls
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:08 AM
1 hr ago

but I think there were some that were even more favorable. I do remember there was high expectations that Kamala would win. And then to have her loose by a wider margin than any presidential candidate since 1972. It is just one of many things about 2024 that make me go hmmm.

Response to Kaleva (Reply #12)

Kaleva

(40,257 posts)
11. I see that precinct 760 had 903 registered voters in 2024
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:57 AM
3 hrs ago

Of which 715 voted, indicating a normal voter turnout.

Precinct 760 covers Lower Mt. Bethel Township.

EdmondDantes_

(1,445 posts)
13. Can you share the link?
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:59 AM
3 hrs ago

The substack certainly doesn't link to where they got their data from

Botany

(76,566 posts)
15. Election Truth Alliance is one of the sources.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:06 AM
3 hrs ago

These are serious people from I.T., computer sciences, engineering, and statistical services.

EdmondDantes_

(1,445 posts)
24. That's a complete avoidance of the fact that Election Truth Alliance doesn't cite their source
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:28 AM
2 hrs ago

Every time I've looked up the numbers they've claimed in the past, they lied. I see no reason to doubt they've done so again, but it would be nice to have the link handy.

And now that the link to the official numbers has been provided, we know with certainty that the ETA and the substack are lying to us again.

biocube

(182 posts)
14. Substack article that cites other substack articles
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:04 AM
3 hrs ago

Have any more reputable media outlets picked this up?

If there was anything to go on, I feel confident state level Democratic parties would sue.

NJCher

(42,616 posts)
18. Yeah, right
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:15 AM
3 hrs ago
I feel confident state level Democratic parties would sue.

When they refuse to release their 2024 report.

When they vote to substantially fund ice after one, now two murders.

Wiz Imp

(9,145 posts)
44. Ridiculous. There has been no votes to fund ICE since yesterday.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:28 AM
51 min ago

Such ridiculous statements accomplish nothing other than yo make you look foolish.

Lonestarblue

(13,280 posts)
16. I believe Republicans cheated in 2024, but I want Democratic officials to wake up to the their 2026 plans.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:10 AM
3 hrs ago

They all act as though the elections will be fair and there is nothing to worry about. The fact that the Dominion voting machine company is now owed by one of Trump’s buddies should at least cause some extra checks of the programming in those machines. If there’s a way to cheat, Republicans will use it.

Javaman

(65,264 posts)
17. Because as everyone knows but no one will say it out loud
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:13 AM
3 hrs ago

It was fixed via Elon’s tabulation software.

Why do you think he and the orange asshole are buddy buddy again?

And why has Elon been so quiet lately, hmmmm?

waterwatcher123

(482 posts)
19. I have written Joe Rogan about Elon's supposed app that gave him the election results four hours before anyone else.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:19 AM
3 hrs ago

If you have a few moments, consider writing Joe Rogan's show to ask him to invite Elon Musk to the program to explain how he knew the 2024 presidential election results four hours in advance. No secretary of state would have allowed a citizen access to voter data four hours before the polls closed. In fact, many of these precincts and voting districts would not have posted data until after 8:00 p.m. when the polls closed in the east (even later in different time zones). So, what explanation is there other than Elon had some piece of software installed on machines or tabulators that either manipulated the data or provided information in advance of any official data releases? Elon spent 270 million dollars to elect Trump. No one invests that kind of money without a clear path to the ROI.

Just to be clear too. I am sure Elon would not disclose to anyone how his app worked or whether he engaged in election theft. However, these people have such big egos that they can hardly restrain themselves from talking about their technological prowess.

Here is the link to Joe Rogan website form if you care to write (https://www.joeroganexperiencereview.com/contact).

This is what I said to him writing the first time (of course, there was no response). I probably should not have mentioned that I am not a fan of the show.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,

I am not a fan of your show. However, I did see a clip during the 2024 presidential election where Mr. Rogan mentioned that Elon Musk knew about the presidential election results up to four hours ahead of everyone else. Later, Musk's son (X) all but admitted (hard for a small child to keep secrets) that Elon and his crew had tampered with the election.

I do not want to live in a country controlled by a megalomaniac who is constantly under the influence of ketamine. As such, I think it would be very interesting and timely to consider inviting Elon on your show to see if he will explain what he did with the election besides spend tons of money. I suspect he used his 650 direct to cell satellites to wake up and download an algorithm on ES&S and Dominion voting machines. However, no one can say for sure since the American public is so fickle that voting behavior swings widely from election to election.

I would guess your audience would like to know that someone is not choosing their elected leaders via electronic manipulation. Trump ran an anemic campaign in 2024. Yet, he someone managed to win all the swing states and flip counties that had never voted Republican. Not a single red county flipped the other way. This is very strange behavior that cannot be explained by the strength of his campaign or advertising (people generally do not switch parties that easily).

The Republican party has been perfecting election theft since they staged the fake outrage in Miami-Dade County, Florida in 2000 with operatives. The Democrats probably stole elections prior to that time with on-the-ground efforts in Chicago (Nixon accused Kennedy of such an effort). Either way, we need to know if someone is tampering with our election results (even foreign countries). Elon Musk has the technical capability to do it nationwide with his satellite network. It would be nice for you to ask him point blank about how he knew early results and whether his network connected with any of these voting machines as they were in sleep mode in voting locations (plugged in, but not active).

There are plenty of ways operatives can influence elections. However, someone who tampers with electronic results controls the outcome in a very predictable and inexpensive way. None of us want to live in a world where nothing we do or say makes any difference.

Please consider this as a show or podcast idea.

DFW

(59,799 posts)
21. This is how Cheneybush "won" "re-election" in 2004
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:24 AM
2 hrs ago

Ohio in 2004 was the Florida of 2000. 2004 was the first year in which electronic voting machines were first widely used in a presidential election. Diebold vote counting machines were made in Ohio. Its CEO declared he would "deliver Ohio for Bush." Ohio's Secretary of State was also the Ohio chairman of the Bush re-election committee. Exit polls indicated that Kerry had won Ohio. Although Bush's win was a "surprise upset," Diebold went to court to get their vote counting machines designated "private property," and thus ineligible for forensic examination to make sure their reported results were accurate. However ONE of their machines, way out in some rural precinct DID get forensically examined before its owners came to collect it. This was a precinct with 600 registered voters. The machine reported 3000 votes for Bush. The machine's makers declared that it was just a "glitch" that by no means warranted forensic examination of the other machines. The Republicans did magnanimously reduce the margin of victory in Ohio by 2400 votes, though.

Forget Republican claims of "anti-kommanism." They are the consummate Stalinists ("Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" ). правду сказать, товарищи!!

NBachers

(19,235 posts)
34. The 2004 election still stabs at my heart. What an accepted President John Kerry would've been on the world stage.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:47 AM
1 hr ago

Edited to add photo of Bush wearing a device in the first debate. https://www.salon.com/2004/10/30/bulge_5/

Attilatheblond

(8,412 posts)
37. Banking regulations changed at that time too. Notice you no longer got cancelled checks back
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:01 AM
1 hr ago

And money was taken out of your checking account immediately, not 'float time' anymore. Why? Because banks could run check thru a computer system at the end of the day. The money got transferred IMMEDIATELY! People who were counting on that good ol 'float time' it used to take from the time someone cashed your check until it was cleared from you checking account got hit with LOTS of overdraft charges. Banks make a lot of money on those charges.

The banks were getting all those overdraft charges because they went along with the new clearing procedure. They had to buy new comupter system to do all that. The maker of that computer system, the company that made a shit load of money because every bank in the US had to buy one? Diebold!

Cheney made sure they controlled vote counting via Diebold machines and he made sure Diebold and banks made a lot of money for going along.

KPN

(17,176 posts)
45. Thanks for that reminder. It's impossible for me to believe that 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2024 were all valid elections
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:31 AM
47 min ago

devoid of meaningful rigging. It's actually easier for me to believe at least three of them were rigged, especially since we know with pretty damned close to 100% certainty that 2000 was.

We Democrats are thoughtful to a fault it seems. We question everything, including ourselves and the evidence we "think" exists. Meanwhile, the Rs go for the kill at every turn. It's no wonder we -- America -- are in the state we currently are in. Instead of simply going for the electoral kill, the Rs have turned to a more direct technique. They are now willfully killing us.

Ford_Prefect

(8,523 posts)
25. Just ask Elmo, the DOGE Trolls, and Ellison. They know because they built the tools to do it.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:32 AM
2 hrs ago

No shit. It's what they do .... And they Absolutely did do it!

Autumn

(48,827 posts)
27. It's vitally important that the illusion that our votes decide how we live be maintained.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:47 AM
2 hrs ago

KPN

(17,176 posts)
48. And they seem to be doing that adequately enough for a large majority of Americans it seems. Nevermind that they
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:45 AM
34 min ago

openly told us what they were doing themselves 20+ years ago when Karl Rove said,

"... when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Clouds Passing

(7,234 posts)
30. Wait for it.........
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:11 AM
2 hrs ago

Soon comes in the we are not going to be election deniers like the gqp.


Even though there is ample proof and public confessions by the gestapo party.

ColoringFool

(362 posts)
31. I LIVE IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY, PA! THIS REPORT IS BOGUS, A MISREADING OF THE....
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:12 AM
2 hrs ago

NAME OF THE CORRESPONDING LOWER MT. BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

Sympthsical

(10,883 posts)
32. Embarrassing
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:30 AM
1 hr ago

A 6th grade math education and the ability to read state election websites is sufficient to debunk this stuff in the less than 30 seconds. Which some brave DUers do every single time, and yet this dishonest, grifting substack still gets posted here on the regular to keep the stages of grief alive.

This stuff is yikes on bikes.

When do we have enough problems where this kind of social media conspiracy mongering that relies on math illiteracy is no longer a luxury we can afford to have? Because it feels like we should be there by now.

And the message that, "It doesn't matter if you vote, because space hackers will steal it!" is dangerous in its ability to discourage people to vote. We need every vote we can get to emerge from this mess.

And still these games get played.

This is what privilege looks like. To have the time to play in this way.

Scruffy1

(3,507 posts)
39. Exactly.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:09 AM
1 hr ago

We don't have time and energy to waste on this bullshit. The orange ass got about the same votes as in 2020 but just like in 2010 the Democratic vote fell off. I blame a lot of it on the media and their hyping of the immigration "crises". The media will never be our friend so we have to be very smart on how to use it. It's not boring debates that change no ones minds anymore. The internet has changed the rules. It's whoever is the quickest and loudest. One only has to read the posts here to realize that for a keyboard warrior accuracy, spelling and grammar have gone out the window. Some like Jasmine Crocket and AOC know how to use it.
The attack on electronic voting is particularly upsetting. Quality is in the process. There is an old saying that 100% inspection is only 80% effective. The main way the Fascists have skewed elections is by voter suppression. And that's so easy even the total idiot in charge can do it. Make it harder for Democrats to vote by reducing voting sites is one easy way. Voter ID bs is another.

Jedi Guy

(3,429 posts)
33. If the 2024 election was stolen and it's this obvious...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:39 AM
1 hr ago

Why didn't Biden say or do something? Why didn't Harris herself say or do something? Why didn't the Democratic Party say or do something? I've yet to see anything approaching a reasonable answer to these questions.

To believe the election was stolen, let alone stolen so blatantly, one must necessarily believe that the Democratic Party, from Joe Biden on down, was too stupid, too cowardly, or too unconcerned to say or do anything about it. One must necessarily believe that they all stood aside and allowed it to happen without making a peep and haven't made a peep over a year later.

I simply can't believe that the entire Democratic Party meekly stood aside and just let it happen. It makes no logical sense.

annielion

(91 posts)
36. Yes. Computers count the votes the way they are programmed to do.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:57 AM
1 hr ago

The biggest I problem I see is that so many people do not understand computers. Our votes have been counted on computers beginning with the 2024 election.

A computer is a pile of electronic equipment until it has a program. The computer's first program is its operating system.

No matter who the Democratic candidate had been - Joe Biden, Kamela Harris, anyone else - the results would have been exactly the same. Exactly. The tabulators (vote-counting computers) were programmed to give Trump the win exactly as it happened.

People who scream and yell about our elections being fair without understanding computers need to learn a little bit about computers. Please

Botany

(76,566 posts)
40. Go back to the 1st article in the series
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:09 AM
1 hr ago

Firmware patches that allowed external monitoring of the vote data and manipulation of that
data was on the E.S.&S. and Dominion Voting Systems operating systems and on central tabulators.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

Google:

Eaton & Tripp Lite
Eaton and Palantir (Peter Thiel’s company)
Palantir and digital janitor
Eaton and Starlink
Starlink and DTC
Starlink and low earth orbit satellites

So do I have control over the content of the internet.

Trump, I don’t need any more votes. 2024

annielion

(91 posts)
50. I appreciate you posting these articles
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:05 PM
13 min ago

I also like the websites This Will Hold and Election Truth Alliance.

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