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In its 250th year, is America, land of immigration, becoming a country of emigration?
Last year the U.S. experienced something that hasnt definitively occurred since the Great Depression: More people moved out than moved in. The Trump administration has hailed the exodusnegative net migrationas the fulfillment of its promise to ramp up deportations and restrict new visas. Beneath the stormy optics of that immigration crackdown, however, lies a less-noticed reversal: Americas own citizens are leaving in record numbers, replanting themselves and their families in lands they find more affordable and safe.
Since the Eisenhower administration, the U.S. hasnt collected comprehensive statistics on the number of citizens leaving. Yet data on residence permits, foreign home purchases, student enrollments and other metrics from more than 50 countries show that Americans are voting with their feet to an unprecedented degree. A millions-strong diaspora is studying, telecommuting and retiring overseas. The new American dream, for some of its citizens, is to no longer live there.
In the cobblestoned streets of Lisbon, so many Americans are snapping up apartments that the newest arrivals complain they mostly hear their own languagenot Portuguese. One of every 15 residents in Dublins trendy Grand Canal Dock district was born in the U.S., according to realtors, higher than the percentage of Americans born in Ireland during the 19th-century influx following the Potato Famine. In Bali, Colombia and Thailand, the strains of housing American remote workers paid in dollars have inspired locals to mount protests against a wave of gentrification.
More than 100,000 young students are enrolled abroad for a more affordable university degree. In nursing homes mushrooming across the Mexican border, elderly Americans are turning up for low-cost care.
On a conference call last month hosted by Expatsi, a relocation company, almost 400 Americans signed up to learn how to move to Albania. The former Stalinist state offers a special visa allowing U.S. citizens to live and work there, with no tax on foreign income for a year, no questions asked.
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sinkingfeeling
(57,634 posts)valleyrogue
(2,657 posts)However, I have no respect for people who think running away solves any problems. The problems plaguing this country are being spread or have spread to other countries.
I have a name for these people, but I won't say it here.
Abolishinist
(2,934 posts)an acronym would at least give us a hint. And by the way, I don't give a flying F where people choose to live... it's their choice.
But go for it!
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,259 posts)Were they wrong????
Cha
(318,140 posts)leave and be Where They Want to BE.
area51
(12,631 posts)the US doesn't have universal healthcare or gun control, & has a shredded social safety net.
C Moon
(13,575 posts)That's why trump and the gop won't mind.
hay rick
(9,524 posts)I am ambivalent about Americans who are able to retire abroad, fleeing to comfort. My perspective is that of a longtime volunteer for the local Democratic Party. One of the seemingly insurmountable problems of local organized has been that people with advanced degrees and organizational skills have largely avoided getting involved. Absent such participation, the party is less effective than it could or should be. Mediocrity becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Jack Valentino
(4,797 posts)JD Vance made the comment in a private Facebook message to his former law school roommate, Josh McLaurin, in 2016. In the message, which was shared in 2022, Vance wrote:
"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical ahole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful)
or that he's America's Hitler."
Oh....... THAT----- possibly the last time Vance told the truth---
before he sold his soul for political power!!!!
But of course, those U.S. citizens don't flee America based upon Vance's old quote,
but upon Trump's and maggot Republicans more recent actual DEEDS!
dalton99a
(93,358 posts)anamnua
(1,506 posts)and fight the good fight.
DFW
(59,997 posts)So, I learned her language and the languages of most surrounding countries (Europe is not very big), and told my employer when I was hired at age 23 that I needed to spend more time in Europe than the usual two weeks of vacation. Always a progressive thinker, he said hey, make yourself useful and take all the time you want.
Its not a paradise here. The weather sucks. There is punishing bureaucracy, public transportation that is rarely on time, and double taxation. Free education and free health care are myths. NOTHING is free, although some things are financed in a completely different manner. The bureaucracy here invades EVERY aspect of everyones life here. You cant tell an EU bureaucrat thats none of your goddam business, because in the EU, it probably is. Privacy is a four letter word in the EU.
There are some differences that are positive, of course. Police brutality is rarer (police indifference and corruption are not). It is FAR more difficult to obtain a firearm, and if you do not pass regular inspections, the authorities WILL take away guns kept by offenders. Due to open borders and short distances, however, organized crime brings in all the weapons they want by car from eastern EU countries with loose controls and poorly paid cops.
Most countries have intact welfare systems, but they are stretched to the breaking point, and were not designed to accommodate people from outside their countries wanting a free ride. Unless you are good at cheating the system, welfare here does not provide for a life of comfort, and if you smoke or are alcoholic, you might find yourself going hungry the last couple of days of the month. My wife was a life-long social worker, and faced this every day. Local train stations are full of beggars, most of whom are locals (some foreigners, of course, especially exploited/enslaved women from Balkan countries).
There are always hundreds of reasons to move to a different country. Most boil down to three general categories: personal, political or professional, and often a combination of two of them. Phony marriages of convenience are the first thing immigration authorities look for, so dont even consider it.
My own small story started out as personal which quickly became professional as well. Americans are welcomed in Europe IF they have their own money, their own job, their own health insurance, and speak the language of the country they seek to move to. Imagine some 30 year old guy wanting to move from Düsseldorf to Philadelphia when he has $3000 to his name, no place to live, no job prospects, no health insurance, and the only language he can speak is German. Thats just about how welcome a 30 year old guy from Philadelphia, speaking only English, would be, when asking to move to Düsseldorf.
IF you are blessed with ancestry that allows you dual citizenship, and you want the option, I say what the hell, go for it. I know an American woman who wanted to live in Belgium, but had no legal basis for a residence permit. But she found that one of her grandfathers was born in Luxembourg after January 1, 1900. Under Luxembourg law, that made her eligible for citizenship there. It took her a year and two trips to Luxembourg, but she got her dual citizenship, is now fluent in French, and living full time in Belgium. EU citizens are permitted to live anywhere in the EU.
Both of my daughters were born and grew up here in Germany. I got them both US citizenship at birth. Both went to college in the USA. One stayed on, and the other got a job offer she couldnt refuse in Germany, and so moved back. Both daughters each had two children, and though the process is far more cumbersome now than it was when I got them their US citizenship (one day for each of them in the 1980s, eleven months each for their children within the last eight years), all my grandchildren are now dual citizens.
We have all been fortunate enough not to find ourselves in situations so intolerable that one of us feels that I cannot take this any longer, and I MUST leave.
But we have not spent any time in the shoes of anyone who feels differently, and therefore have neither encouragement nor condemnation for anyone who makes the move, is contemplating it, or cant but wishes they could. Everyone has their own story, and its not my place to tell it for them.