He's been itching to use nukes for a long time.

That post was absurd.

Imagine if I won the powerball lottery tonight. There it's out in the universe. Come on baby, come on!

Universe saved!!!

I'm praying to the divinity of our lord Koresh that Easy wins the lottery!!!!

Do the math

that if ANY nation launches ..........one goes, they all go.

Tiny Tactical Nukes are on the back of Putin's mind, when he is faced with failure in Ukraine. He may get away with that.
It is far easier for him to pick on Ukraine's Nuclear electrical power generation plants to do much the same thing, with just a drone.
Unknown to a lot of people, Ukraine spent years designing, financing, building, and installing a new major sarcophagus over the Chernobyl Reactor....... only to have Putin, recently punch a large gaping hole in it with just one drone, allowing the radiation to escape once again....

I can only imagine that any area hit with a nuclear bomb, will be un-inhabitable for quite some time. Like hundreds or even thousands of years?

Maybe someone knows??????

Catastrophic damage to a nuclear plant could be a different story though. Though I guess russian nuclear plants could also be vulnerable.

are much different and much much smaller than those available today......It all depends on what isotope is used......and I have no idea about those things.....Are the current Plutonium bombs different than the ones used in Japan?????????

(We will have our own problems here in the U.S. of our own making, if something humongous isn't done with Hanford? in the immediate future)

Ionizing radiation is a long-term effect of any nuclear blast in the atmosphere. It travels around the globe and causes cancer. This includes above-ground tests in the 20th century. Power plant mishaps also contribute.

This being the main worldwide effect presumes that the number of blasts is small in number. A large-scale nuclear war leads to nuclear winter. Best-case scenario is severe climate change and widespread famine. Worst-case scenario is human extinction.

Chernobyl will be unfit for human habitation for thousands of years. The bomb at Nagasaki was 20 megatons and there were no nuclear power plants there. Today's nukes can be hundreds of megatons. Big difference.

thanks for the info

You need fusion (hydrogen) bombs to get into the megaton range.

complicated, with several safeguards in place so that one person, even the president, can't launch one on a whim.

He projects but doesn't do the one thing after all the other "he won't/can't" do that things ?

who will even attempt to stop him?

We've been told over and over "he can't do....that" and every time, he fucking does it because no one has the will or the ability to stop him.

… even if he tries, it won’t happen. Too many people around him are crazy, but not crazy enough.

that he was golfing and he hit a ball in to a tree, it ricocheted back in to his head and killed him. Why hasn’t that manifested yet? 😉

who thinks of him croaking, wouldn't solve the problem......A bunch of others that are directing things, Like Stephen Miller, Russell Vought, would immediately step in to fill the void.......The 2025 group is directing a lot of what he is doing, from the sidelines behind smoke and mirrors......
The 2025 Group and other Radical Far Right groups, along with the entire Republican group of Senators and House Members, along with the Republican Supreme Court are what is giving him the power, and have been since 2015..........AND we must not forget Russia/Putin, and U.S. Corporations providing the financing for their entire program, these entire past 45+ years, and intensified efforts this last eleven years.......

And it might actually have done some good if he'd died at that point.

It’s like prayer. Maybe 1 out of 10,000 get “answered,” but maybe not like you wanted.

Trump would be....well...

I've been thinking about this the last few days.

Anything to distract from Epstein.

It will definitely happen. He loves killing people and committing war crimes just because he can.

On one of Iran’s underground facilities.

As it really isn't a nuke because blah, blah, blah and the zombie base will love it.

Being honest, Trump is batshit crazy and the idea of nuking some country would probably make him higher than a rat on acid, but...where does it end if that happens?

What is the end game?

What happens next?

And, I suspect that there are still nukes (suit-case, etc.,) somewhere out there from the fall of the old Soviet Union. We live in a free market economy and there are a few STEM personnel who have the skills, question is the materials, to complete a project. Plus, thanks to the billionaires, we have AI.

That is a bridge that we have to hope that even the GOP would want to avoid....and once that level of lawlessness is reached, everyone and everywhere is fair game.

IMO.

Comes to mind as a conflict zone if we launch anything. I’d also worry that the citizens of Pakistan revolt against the government due to anger about the Iran situation and some far worse group takes control of their arsenal.

Our are 10kt, theirs 600kt.

Going to war with Iran may also bring him down.

shit will get real real, real fast.

Because a single strike, even a tactical nuke, would not be contained. We all know that. We're living in a tit for tat world. We're living in the Age of Monsters and Trump is insane.

reason why he is has to be removed.

They’ll be in a terrible place, but they’ll take all of us with them.

I don't know the future. I only try to imagine the paths to the worst in hopes of blocking them

... Jason Robards, Morgan Freeman, or ...heck... LESLIE ****** NIELSEN as interim President until we can get these foaming at the mouth lunatics into strait jackets???

…and would still be an improvement.

(The Naked Gun 2 1/2, The Smell of Fear)

Leslie Nielsen!!!

I know he's dead but he was SO awesome in his movies.

A man who had his finger in the genitals of young girls now has dementia and that same finger on the nuclear button.

Think about this carefully Republicans.

Is this what you really want?????

He draws the ire, while they do nothing to interfere, since they are somewhat insulated. They really need to hear from the people loud and clear for their enabling.

It's too awful to contemplate.

... The following acts, or any of them, are crimes coming within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal for which there shall be individual responsibility:

(a) CRIMES AGAINST PEACE: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;

(b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;

(c)CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan ...

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp

The U.S. has Lyndsay Graham and the Epstein Files.

These incompetent, immoral, stupid assholes do not have a clue as to what they are doing.

They aren't all batshit crazy like Chump is.

Us For Another Few Months. But realize these guys THINK they can light off a few dozen TACTICAL nukes and it won't count. They're ITCHING to do it.... "See? That wasn't so bad and the radioactive ☢️ yields are no more than a few dozen unshielded dental X-Rays!"

The whole world is fucked.

And that bodes ill for the remainder.

Under the friggin ballroom. When that's done, watch out.

Every day, demanding he be removed.

We've closed all of our Embassies in the ME and told everyone to get out of Dodge...unassisted.
A previous post, (can't find it now) said that the Doomsday plane is headed to the ME. It's the flying command center for extreme conflict possibly nuclear.

Found it:
www.democraticunderground.com/100220417594

There's always a chance...

As the saying goes, "hope springs eternal."

For Social Responsibility) talking about the dangers of nuclear war. She concluded with, "This will be the first war in which the living will envy the dead."

He's always wanted to nuke something. God help us.

And he wants to be seen as THE most powerful man on the planet. There’s not a doubt in my mind that he’s itching to do it. And they’ve culled most of the military leaders that would have opposed him.

If they open this nuclear door, there’s no closing it. What’s to stop Russia from using one on Ukraine? Or China on Taiwan? Or North Korea on South Korea? The U.S. would be in no moral position to object. And no one else would be in a position to stop them.

The U.S. has protected the world order for decades. How ironic that we are the ones now tearing it down.

on something that was supposedly a joke, but. . . The story went that there was always the one guy we never saw in the command center, but was always there. Not the one who carried the codes, but the guy who was there to make sure those codes were never sent. If there ever was such a role, pretty sure it has been eliminated.

QUOTING from a DU thread titled "USA Sends Doomsday Plane E-6B Mercury to Middle East" :

[Note: This BBC article is from 2017 so the word "now" means 2017]

These lunatics also have some power in this Admin so who knows...

How many of these faith filled matchsticks are going to get lit when MAGA televangelists & podcasters like Benny Johnson & Candace Owens REALLY start bearing down with administration encouragement?!

If he does nuke Iran, even with just one small nuke, who could retaliate with a nuke on the White House -- not Iran, only Russia or China could do so -- at least that's what I think -- anyone else? And would they?

My daughter lives on Capitol Hill, less than one straight line mile from the White House, basically ground zero. So she's toast. Literally.

We are in the DC suburbs in Northern Virginia, about 30-33 straight line miles from ground zero. The blast won't get us, however, we will die of radiation sickness within a few days.

Have I finally lost what's left of my 81-yr-old mind thinking about this? Survived a year in the bush in Vietnam in what seemed like a gunfight damn near every day, just to end up in the rubble caused by a madman?

I guess it was a waste to update our wills as we did a couple of months ago -- no one will be around to probate them.

Not a price they'd be willing to pay for a country that they really don't care about. More likely that Putin would use it as a green light to start dropping nukes on Ukraine, while China would pretend to be above it all.

This will be the test to see if the military will hold

Somebody went and told Trump that Japan didn't agree to an unconditional surrender until after the U.S. dropped two nukes on them.

He's tied by money to too many countries in the Middle East, like Saudi and Qatar. They would also be hit. Fallout is not very discriminating.

"dropping a deuce" which I assumed was why he wears diapers and stinks. Sometimes when I read too fast my mind comes up with some interesting/odd ideas.

is nuking anyone.

I mean, dude, c'mon!

ForgedCrank said it, I believe it, and that's good enough for me!!1!

i wonder what it will cost to join him in the shelter?

Anything … ANYTHING for attention — sleeping on camera, fake ear bandages, rambling word salad like speeches, fake bruises ….

don't think Putin will allow it, isn't he pulling DJT's strings.

I’ve heard other people suggest it too. Probably all he needs is someone to tell him that refusing to drop a nuke is woke.

All over Iran.

Of course, they have not figured what happens next, nor who dies.

So, we have your prediction and mine, now. I like mine better.

and even though Trump's claiming it for vanity
and other reasons, I think it's really Bibi's
war.

That's more likely, I think.

and in Iran

I think he's perfectly capable of wanting to do
this on his own, might have given Trump soe
kind of hint... and now Trump might want to
do it to get the credit because he wants the
"win" on this even though "winning" would come
at a huge cost.

He's at the stage of just throwing anything in reach at the wall when he's in tantrum mode; ketchup, lives, nukes... whatever's handy.

Your worries are valid, because he is nuts. If anybody would go too far and do nukes, it would be that guy.
But, I'd would put the probability of it actually happening as so close to zero, that we could call it zero.

Is there anyone sane enough to take on that task?

..strategically targeted and not meant to kill the population.

So it must be alright?

and they chose not to do so. As a result, he has a green light to do any damn thing he wants.

Blow from the west to the east. Tehran may suffer from the blast but a radioactive cloud would quickly spread over the Stans into western China. Get these crazy, suicidal christian nationalists out of government. They want to destroy us all.

It also made me wonder what it would take for troops to consider an order illegal.

He will use every weapon of war at his disposal.

I think he's on the way out and off the planet in any case.

he'll keep pushing and as consequences close in, he'll drop a nuke to distract and claim that since he's a 'wartime president' everyone should vote for what he wants.

When this government decided to hide threats to our country, first thing that came to my mind was OUR OWN government could do something and blame it on Iran. I honestly believe TSF is the only president that i would even consider a threat to our country. These MONSTERS are capable of anything, and that's a fact!

false machismo. It would be devastating. He is signaling that elections will not happen.

What other experience can possibly compete with the exhilaration of diddling God-knows-how-many adolescent boys and girls over the span of decades? Trump’s become jaded.