"There's a bad motorcycle with the devil in the seat / Going ninety miles an hour down a dead end street" I keep thinking this is our situation now

and guess who's going to pay the price...us. President I'm Not Responsible for Anything will blame Biden, Hillary, Hegseth and anyone else he feels like throwing under the bus.

Your comment:


“It is a form of mass murder or genocide if you like. It is the very thing that we tried, convicted and hanged Nazi leaders for 80 years ago.“

History shows that it is usually only the losers in a conflict that get tried for war crimes.

This CF marks the end of the American Empire. It appears that has been Trump's plan from the beginning. That will be the one and only success in his entire life.

Excusing shit like the former Navy SEAL who targeted children and desecrated corpses.

It was always; "well, some of the veterans in WWII, Korea and Vietnam did some atrocious, inhumane shit during those wars."

It's the worst form of "whataboutism" in the history of what about isms.

It's like excusing slavery by saying; "people used to own slaves".

My comment is; "fuck that shit, because we, as a civilized society are supposed to be better".

We are supposed to have evolved and grown as human fucking beings since the days we were walking on all fours, courting the opposite sex with a rock to the head.

That's my fucking comment.

Lose your humanity if you wish, I'll keep mine, especially since NONE OF THIS WAS NECESSARY OR IMINENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Iran was in a fucking box. Sure, they were fucking insane religious nutjobs, but they were no more a threat to the United States than Venezuelan fishing boats are.

If this were truly about threats to the world, we'd be bombing the fuck out of the Russian forces attacking and murdering civilians in Ukraine.

That will NEVER happen, because unlike Iran, Russia might have the ability to shoot back.

Do you not agree that it is usually only the losers in a conflict that get tried for war crimes?

When this is over there will be no doubt who the losers were. It will be us. It won't be Iran.

So no, there were no Nuremberg Trials, and quite a great deal of incidents were prosecuted, but not convicted.

Many atrocities were excused and NOT prosecuted, but in my 29 years in the Navy, it was drilled into us what was and was not expected of us. Just because some drunk Christofascist, or orange piece of amphibian shit has no honor, it doesn't mean I have no honor.

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140 US soldiers were convicted and executed by court martial for murder and rape. 18 or 19 were for crimes committed in Britain so presumably not war crimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_by_the_United_States_military

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0011128796042004001

UK records for the period have not been digitized so there’s no easily confirmed number.

Members of the USSR armed forces were convicted in the post Soviet era of WW2 era war crimes by courts in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

Two French soldiers were executed for participation in a massacre of prisoners in 1942.

Vance would be no better. After him is Johnson, who can't even run the House effectively, let alone a nation. Nobody in the cabinet would be an improvement.

BTW, I read here or at another website, that Iran's president has said that Iran will kill Trump as retaliation for the death of the Ayatollah. I have a hunch that that is why Trump made a public show of himself happily playing golf, like saying. "I am not afraid."

Iran will kill ordinary Americans at the most.

the economy crashes into a full blown depression.

Vance has been mysteriously quiet recently. Possibly he wants plausible deniability for being a part of Trump's war. That would make it easier for him to back down.

Trump will simply have the Republican House impeach Vance, the Senate convict him, and then Trump (per 2025 group) will be instructed to install Stephen Miller as VP............Then the Repubs will do the same to Trump and install Miller as President who will appoint another 2025 asshole as VP??????????????????????

and go play golf this weekend. Must have needed that respite after having to show up (in Biden's state) and pretend to care about the deaths that he caused.

Aka gassing people

Polar vortex diminished by CO2, jet stream reaching further south. Reduced, in any, FEMA. The fascist right is way in over their horned heads unless the plan is to destroy the country.

https://time.com/7383099/iran-news-oil-strikes-tehran/

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/iran-war-israel-us-tehran-oil-refineries-acid-rain-global-markets-rcna262390

https://theconversation.com/what-international-law-says-about-the-israeli-strikes-on-iranian-oil-facilities-277875

Remember, this is a war that Israel started. Iran may be run by evil people, but the Israeli government isn't that far behind. Iran killed tens of thousands of their own people, and Israel killed tens of thousands of Palestinians.
There is an evil in the middle east that seems to infect all the governments in the area.

And Trump, most obligingly, gave Israel a helping hand with some bullshit "justification" and a lot of bombs and missiles.
It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and we helped get it going.

the oil facilities would have been taken out of production. The Ukrainians are shutting down Russian facilities without causing industrial holocausts.

The Israelis killed 70,000 plus people and razed a city of 2 million inhabitants. Now, with our help, they intend to destroy a city of 10 million. The difference is that Iran has the ability to defend itself. The implications are nothing less than horrific.