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flashman13

(2,320 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 07:25 PM 4 hrs ago

There are three bits of information I have been able to glean through all of the noise today.

First: There are far more American wounded casualties than the DoD has admitted to. The number could be as high as 150. Of course if they are lying about wounded, they are almost certainly lying about killed as well. They are lying to us again as usual. No surprise there.

Second: Trump's flunky son-in-law negotiator Kushner approached the Iranians about some sort cease fire or deescalation. They told him no (or maybe HELL NO). Why would they agree? They are winning militarily and psychologically. This will end on their terms, not Trump's. This will become the greatest humiliation ever to befall any American President.

Three: The Iranians have announced that they are going to focus their retaliation entirely on Israel. I think for the most part Israeli air defenses have been depleted. The Israelis are doing their best to cover it up, but it looks like Iranian missiles and drones are hitting Tel Aviv and the rest of the country at will. The Israeli people aren't stupid. They do know that Bibi is responsible for this fiasco. I would guess his and his governments days in office are numbered. Unless he makes a run for it he will be in a jail cell soon.

Trump will have to do one of two things. He will have to unilaterally back down or go full scorched earth on the Iranians. If he ops for alternative two, the Iranians will go full scorched earth on the entire middle east. They could essentially shut down oil production for a very extended period of time. The implications for the world economy would be nothing less than a major disaster. We are talking about a world wide super depression. We, U.S.A., will pay an extremely heavy price for electing lunatic President.

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There are three bits of information I have been able to glean through all of the noise today. (Original Post) flashman13 4 hrs ago OP
I botched the send button. My appologies. flashman13 4 hrs ago #1
Imho, snot 4 hrs ago #2
I was trying not to sound too hyperbolic. You could be correct. flashman13 4 hrs ago #3
If that's optimistic... debsy 3 hrs ago #4
Nor do I. flashman13 3 hrs ago #6
1991 Deja Vu ... OldBoss 3 hrs ago #5
Proves the adage correct canetoad 2 hrs ago #7
The Iranians are laying bombs in Strait of Hormuz. babylonsister 2 hrs ago #8
I believe "mine" is the name of the bomb. Dr. T 1 hr ago #20
thy use magnetism rampartd 21 min ago #22
K & R ananda 2 hrs ago #9
IIRC, during the Vietnam 'police action" (and I was in high school and college then) chowmama 2 hrs ago #10
I was actually surprised that he showed up when they unloaded the caskets the other day or that it was televised. llmart 2 hrs ago #12
Yeah, but he schlumped forward like a teenager chowmama 2 hrs ago #13
That's his normal look. llmart 2 hrs ago #14
DURec leftstreet 2 hrs ago #11
only the first one is really bad RussBLib 2 hrs ago #15
Trump ruins everything he touches. This war will be another Trump failure, regrettably. Pepsidog 2 hrs ago #16
Interesting theories. It will be interesting if they are supported by further information. Martin68 2 hrs ago #17
Hard to say Iran is winning based on the information we have EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #18
The combat ability of the Iranians at this point is minimal... WarGamer 1 hr ago #19
This sounds more accurate, yes GusBob 1 hr ago #21

debsy

(893 posts)
4. If that's optimistic...
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:42 PM
3 hrs ago

… I do not want to see where we wind up if the pessimistic road is the one we take.

OldBoss

(77 posts)
5. 1991 Deja Vu ...
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:50 PM
3 hrs ago

Iraq burned down 100’s of Kuwaiti oil drills on the way out.

Kuwait Oil Fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwaiti_oil_fires

And Haliburton made billions in its wake!

babylonsister

(172,719 posts)
8. The Iranians are laying bombs in Strait of Hormuz.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:27 PM
2 hrs ago

I can't remember the name of them but I think they're on the sea floor. And I have no idea who they're trying to dissuade. I tune in in the pm, so am catching up.

Dr. T

(608 posts)
20. I believe "mine" is the name of the bomb.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:26 PM
1 hr ago

And I believe they are put into the water and use magnetism to attach themselves to ships.

rampartd

(4,505 posts)
22. thy use magnetism
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 11:52 PM
21 min ago

or any of several other sensors , acoustic comes to mind, to trigger the explosion.

ananda

(34,948 posts)
9. K & R
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:27 PM
2 hrs ago

Very good summation.. though
also very sad and disturbing for
so many, including us.

chowmama

(1,072 posts)
10. IIRC, during the Vietnam 'police action" (and I was in high school and college then)
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:36 PM
2 hrs ago

You'd be closer if you just moved the decimal point. Upwards for our casualties and downwards for theirs.

I'm betting that's still true.

llmart

(17,547 posts)
12. I was actually surprised that he showed up when they unloaded the caskets the other day or that it was televised.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:49 PM
2 hrs ago

If you remember, Dubya (another cowardly draft dodger) wouldn't allow the caskets to be shown.

chowmama

(1,072 posts)
13. Yeah, but he schlumped forward like a teenager
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:53 PM
2 hrs ago

that had just been informed that he had to go talk to Great-Aunt Martha till dinner.

RussBLib

(10,570 posts)
15. only the first one is really bad
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:58 PM
2 hrs ago

...I just knew there had to be lots of wounded, but they were saying nothing, and I suppose our "press" didn't press very hard for info, if at all. I feel bad for all those well-meaning soldiers who were doing their duty. Unfortunately, their orders were coming from madmen.

As for #2, Trump deserves some intense humiliation, as do his supporters. No doubt some of us well-meaning people will suffer at the same time.

And #3, I will cry no tears for Bibi Netanyahu. He should have been jailed long ago, a lot like Trump. Again, lots of innocent civilians are caught up in the slaughter, and whose fault is that?

Your last point is too dark, and it assumes there will be no one in Trump's circle and no one in Bibi's circle that can talk some sense into them. It might look that way now, but everything is subject to change. No one is invincible.

https://russblib.blogspot.com


Martin68

(27,562 posts)
17. Interesting theories. It will be interesting if they are supported by further information.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:06 PM
2 hrs ago

EdmondDantes_

(1,681 posts)
18. Hard to say Iran is winning based on the information we have
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:13 PM
2 hrs ago

When your leadership gets killed it's hard to say you're winning. And their attempts at retaliation are upsetting their neighbors.

I think like most wars, there aren't any real winners, just dead soldiers and civilians, a lot of damage, and wasted money.

WarGamer

(18,522 posts)
19. The combat ability of the Iranians at this point is minimal...
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:15 PM
1 hr ago

I wouldn't lose sleep worrying about the Iranians.

Their missile supply dwindles daily and most of their launches are lightly armed drones.

GusBob

(8,224 posts)
21. This sounds more accurate, yes
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:43 PM
1 hr ago

They may try to drag the conflict on would be my guess, drag out the cost of munitions and price of oil on us

I don’t see them capitulating to a full surrender

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