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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's Iran Blunders Suddenly Look Darker after Damning New Leaks Hit (Greg Sargent, The New Republic)
https://newrepublic.com/article/207666/trump-iran-blunders-suddenly-look-darker-damning-new-leaks-hitThis page has audio of Greg Sargent's latest podcast. Part of the intro:
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https://newrepublic.com/article/207670/transcript-trump-war-suddenly-looks-darker-damning-new-leaks-hit
This page has the transcript of the podcast. Excerpt:
As he said in that clip, he said theyve destroyed all their mining ships. Thats absolutely not true. They may have distributed some of the mines around Iran so that they couldnt be targeted directly in one go. They may have already laid some mines. We dont fully know, but I would say that is not something we can just take on Trumps say-so.
This is not something the world, and in particular the financial world that insures these ships, and the companies that run these ships, and the pilots and captains, you know, the people who crew these ships, can unsee. Iran struck these tankersat least three, at last count, that I saw today, and I may already be out of date. And if you look at these images of tankers on fire, what captain, what company in their right mind would send a tanker laden with fuel through the Strait of Hormuz? Its really dangerous.
And so theres been talk of a naval escort by the U.S., and the Navy is simply not equipped to do that. And even if it were, it really does not want to, because it makes the U.S. naval ships a target as well, right? These ballistic missiles that Iran has could hit these shipsthey can attack them from the shore and they can also mine the Strait. And this is a problem that U.S. military planners and analysts, national security analysts, and presidential administrations have been thinking about for 20 years. And every president until Trump has been deterred from doing it, precisely because this is such a mess.
Picturelady
(13 posts)How many of you remember 2017 when Rex Tillerson, his Sec. of State quit. Told a friend, He is a f@$#ing moron! Well he's more moronic than ever. Congress needs to pull the plug on him. Our country is in danger.
HarryM
(464 posts)would stop calling him a moron. It is an insult to morons. He has an IQ about the same as his shoe size.
reACTIONary
(7,170 posts)debsy
(956 posts)There is no reasoning with any of them. They are cultists through and through.
️If any reasonable, moderate republicans existed, they would have left the party or their seat in Congress by now
Martin68
(27,767 posts)Be Leave On
(430 posts)Operation Epstein Fury is rapidly turning into Operation Epic Failure.
AZ8theist
(7,407 posts)


ForeGoneLegsBirne
(48 posts)Emblazoned With That Quote on the DC Mall Is Now 70-30 Over the 300 Ft Statue of Trump the Conqueror of the Persians... and EXXON is Gonna Pay to BUILD THAT STATUE!!!
mountain grammy
(29,050 posts)are they actually, really afraid of him? Physically? Mentally? Economically?.. ahhh, I think it's the last. Greed always win.
TheRickles
(3,401 posts)HarryM
(464 posts)at IKEA!
ITAL
(1,329 posts)And he has no problem turning on them, which means they'll lose their voters. Basically everyone who has ever seriously crossed him has lost.
mountain grammy
(29,050 posts)But I dont think so. He was on the news during the 70s when I still lived in the NY area. An obnoxious blowhard, but I didnt really follow him. Who lost, besides Epstein and his first wife and the contractors he stiffed?
ITAL
(1,329 posts)Well, I'm also including some who retired because they knew they'd lose, but just some include-
Liz Cheney, Jeff Flake, Tom Rice, Adam Kinzinger, Jaime Herrera Beutler, and Will Hurd.
Those are just the national folks. Then you have some of the state level people like Russell Bowers who undoubtedly lost because their refusal to overturn the 2020 election results.
wnylib
(26,067 posts)about Hitler's staff when Germany was losing the war. They could not tell him that they were losing or risk defying him when he ordered that they could not retreat. He ordered children from Hitler Youth to defend Berlin. If they refused, they were shot for cowardice. If they obeyed, they were killed by Allied fighting.
mountain grammy
(29,050 posts)Ponietz
(4,343 posts)Take him away in a straight jacket. MF WILL drop nukes if he doesnt get his way.
SamuelTheThird
(1,171 posts)He will get supremely frustrated with the worsening economic situation. Will the military do it? If not, we will need a coup. This is fucked
GiqueCee
(4,302 posts)... through which to view this clusterfuck. Never lose sight of the irrefutable fact that Trump is a Russian asset. Putin doesn't always have to give Trump instructions; his staggering stupidity and narcissistic arrogance virtually assures that anything he does will ultimately serve Putin's interests. Strangling the standard delivery routes of oil tankers cripples the West's fuel dependency, and hamstrings the US economy. A win-win for Vlad The Impaler. It may also force Europe to reconsider its position on Russian oil and natural gas, reopening a critical revenue stream for Russia.
Nothing Trump says or does is ever in the best interests of this country. Everything has to serve his malicious intentions and his fragile ego at the moment. Forethought is not now, nor has it ever been, part of his makeup.
Lonestarblue
(13,488 posts)Just what they needed to continue fueling their war on Ukraine. Coincidence? Probably not.
Wednesdays
(22,639 posts)No matter how bad things are in the Hormuz Strait, the ports on the Black Sea and Baltic Sea are still fully operational.
yellow dahlia
(5,948 posts)IbogaProject
(5,923 posts)Since it is an active war crews can say no way are we moving through hostilities. I read an account in the Wall Street Journal comments, Japanese Capitain, ship built in Korea, owned by a Panama Corp, flagged in Cameroon with mostly Filipeno (his spelling) crew. He said he'd support them saying No and they would take sippy cups from China to Europe the long way instead.
Buckeyeblue
(6,357 posts)It's obvious the Trump is incapable of leading any longer. If his advisors can't tell him the truth, it's time to go.
Again, this is on Republicans and everyone running against an incumbent Senator or House member should make this an issue. And the message is simple: They represent Donald Trump, not you. It's time that you have representation.
popsdenver
(2,318 posts)For the Republican House Members, The Republican Senators, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justices,
Trump wouldn't have made it past his first week, in his first term.....
THEY ALL ARE TO SHOULDER 100% OF THE BLAME..........
The Senators that voted not to impeach him, should be the first arrested, and Given Life Sentences, without Parole.
Or better yet, send them to that horrific Prison down in El Salvador?
1WorldHope
(2,059 posts)I don't know about you but I'm losing hope. I'm starting to think I should bury my head in the sand and enjoy the time we have left.
modrepub
(4,117 posts)A play on Trumps NK bestie Dear Leader.
And by the way, I saw something saying Iranian missiles borrowed NK technology. Another bit of sad evidence that Trumps choice of people he admires endangers us all.
Exp
(961 posts)peggysue2
(12,534 posts)Because this is what you get when you're dealing with an incompetent 'president' who surrounds himself with incompetent lackeys. They're too afraid to bust his balls with the truth while he destroys the last shred of global respect for the United States and is willing to burn the world down due to ignorance and arrogance.
Agent Orange is NOT a decider. Agent Orange IS a demented destroyer.
yellow dahlia
(5,948 posts)Cha
(319,178 posts)Bombed and invaded Iran.
And Fetterman's on board.
vapor2
(4,539 posts)Bev54
(13,438 posts)while they run the straight and he can die a martyr.
BidenRocks
(3,281 posts)In America!
jmowreader
(53,213 posts)Iran's Qader missile is an antiship, sea-skimming cruise missile weapon (that means it flies really low and has sensors in it that allow it to follow the contours of the earth) that can be launched from a truck on land. This means the Iranians don't have to hope the Other Side doesn't just...I don't know, maybe just give the lowest man on the ship's totem pole a pair of binoculars and a bazooka and have him shoot any floating mines he sees...or bring a minesweeper in to clear any mines that might be in the Strait of Hormuz.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,180 posts)The FO stage is here!
Saying they had any forethought to anything is a stretch.
We are being governed by five year olds.