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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething I worry about with our aging and less than aggressive leadership.
If it were to happen that Dems regain power in the near future would Schumer and his accolites then declair "Ahh. Now we can go back to the way we did things before. It'll be just like the old days!" ? And go back to thinking the Repugs are just good people are who a little misguided and just need a few strongly worded letters to get back to bipartisan cooperation and commity.
So far they seem to be missing the fact that those days are gone forever and are completely incapable of mounting an effective defense against an enemy that they have yet recognize the e intense of. If we return the same people to leadership are we risking democracy's future all over again?
BannonsLiver
(20,503 posts)There would be a mass revolt.
3_Limes
(497 posts)And leave ourselves sitting ducks for MAGA ti push over.
BannonsLiver
(20,503 posts)Hes not going to be majority leader again. Period. As for the rest of it, Im not too pro on borrowing trouble from tomorrow for today. Weve got enough to worry about in the present.
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lees1975
(7,009 posts)Along with Mark Kelly, who would be my #1 choice.
msongs
(73,613 posts)KPN
(17,330 posts)Katcat
(571 posts)Just thinking about him being majority leader again.
leftstreet
(40,285 posts)It seems like 10 million progressive leaning Democrats are popping up and swarming local and national races. They're really taking advantage of the Trump/GOP favor-ability meltdown, and also rallying those who've lost faith in govt.
Leaders will have no choice but to make some accommodations to keep their appointments
3_Limes
(497 posts)Ponietz
(4,290 posts)Also, the billionaires always switch sides when their party becomes toxic to voters. They use their money, oops, I meant speech, to drown our voices out, and we end up with a right-leaning candidate. Leadership and the DNC show no real motivation to change.
leftstreet
(40,285 posts)You're absolutely right.
But with a stronger progressive, non-AIPAC showing in seats, maybe maybe maybe we could finally get an actual match
themaguffin
(5,144 posts)dalton99a
(93,836 posts)RockRaven
(19,191 posts)3_Limes
(497 posts)Which might not be guaranteed.
RockRaven
(19,191 posts)GreenWave
(12,598 posts)No more kicking the can down the road or we are moving on past this. It will only get worse.
lees1975
(7,009 posts)They did NOTHING! Schumer, Durbin, even Biden, went right back to the old school way of doing things, as if January 6th and the Trump administration had never happened.
So as a result, a six-MAGA member Supreme Court continued in its gross negligence and incompetence, and immorality, unchecked when we had the power to pack it with judges who would have not only neutralized the incompetence, but who would have undone everything they did.
Seemss to me the Republicans were able, during that time, to block just about everything that would have made real structural changes, and other than the infrastructure bill, and a couple of other left side economic policies, we still have no campaign finance reform, we didn't put anything in place to make Obamacare permanent and untouchable, and somehow our justice department frittered away four years with indictments on the table because of gross incompetence of an attorney general who never sshould have been hired. If we'd have packed the court, Eileen Cannon and the others who delayed for Trump would have been made irrelevant. Trump would have been tried and imprisoned and made ineligible to run again and we would not be here now.
It makes marches and protests look like lemurs falling off a cliff.
leftstreet
(40,285 posts)There wasn't much they could do in terms of influence
If the current crop of progressives are successful electorally, they'll make some of those squaddies look kinda conservative!
3_Limes
(497 posts)Thanks for cheering me up.
lees1975
(7,009 posts)Ponietz
(4,290 posts)Then, they used their money to flood the media with outrageous claims, hysterical criticism, cheap shots, and propaganda tailored to influence the particular recipient. The game has been rigged for almost 50 years, but the scheme metastasized after Citizens United. They engineered this shit show.
Trueblue Texan
(4,403 posts)This is not to disparage--it's just the truth. They are of a generation that respected norms. They simply did not appreciate where we are today--we must codify the norms and ENFORCE the code! We cannot rely on unwritten rules--they have to protect democracy in the law first, WHILE they hold the traitors who tried to destroy our nation accountable.
EverHopeful
(684 posts)with 20th century decorum ISN'T WORKING.
No more pretending we are dealing with responsible, ethical human beings. I'd also advocate for becoming signatories to the ICC since we seem unable or unwilling to hold criminals accountable.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,858 posts)CrispyQ
(40,909 posts)And four years later the country will vote in another republican. Seen on FB: The problem with American politics is that the Republicans & the Democrats are both afraid of the republican base, but neither are afraid of the democratic base. We need to change that.
themaguffin
(5,144 posts)gulliver
(13,931 posts)There are a bunch of people out there who can raise a fuss who are talentless, or only good at putting on a show to impress the gullible. It's really hard to get people with good leadership skills and high intelligence into a career in public service. It's hard work, low pay, and it's unappreciated. Some emoting idiot will always be able to make himself or herself preferred by the gullible.
I happen to think Schumer is very smart and capable leader. He can even be tougher than he has been. You can see that in video, for example, of him in the past. I just think his hands are tied by the people who like drama and think they're in one.
usonian
(24,878 posts)A Revolutionary Democratic Party is needed to win.
PERIOD.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/13244015
A grassroots revolution is needed for the party to win.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=420478
The Democcratic Party needs to be REVOLUTIONARY, not reactionary. That is how we win. PERIOD.
OUR PRINCIPLES ARE SEEN AS WINNERS.

OUR PRINCIPALS ARE SEEN AS COUCH POTATOES.

Found on the Lexington Green.

Please add more.
And P.S. You're as old as you think (and act!)
Quiet Em
(2,871 posts)Are they Democrats? Republicans? What are your Senators doing? Are one of your Senators ready to step up and lead?
Bobstandard
(2,268 posts)PATRICK
(12,378 posts)the GOP should be ruled a non- or un-constitutional party and the so-called center Democrats would electorally disappear- or else that party too. Or the good old days of plutocracy WILL continue on as they have for many many decades howsoever they choose.
betsuni
(29,011 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,811 posts)Didn't work out too well and would be even worse this time.
quakerboy
(14,841 posts)Live and let live, focus on the future not the past, etc. Its coming.