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3_Limes

(497 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:14 PM 15 hrs ago

Something I worry about with our aging and less than aggressive leadership.

If it were to happen that Dems regain power in the near future would Schumer and his accolites then declair "Ahh. Now we can go back to the way we did things before. It'll be just like the old days!" ? And go back to thinking the Repugs are just good people are who a little misguided and just need a few strongly worded letters to get back to bipartisan cooperation and commity.

So far they seem to be missing the fact that those days are gone forever and are completely incapable of mounting an effective defense against an enemy that they have yet recognize the e intense of. If we return the same people to leadership are we risking democracy's future all over again?

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Something I worry about with our aging and less than aggressive leadership. (Original Post) 3_Limes 15 hrs ago OP
Schumer won't be majority leader if we get the senate back. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #1
That's probably true. But I worry that we'll take the safe, vanilla, "moderate" choice for his replacement 3_Limes 14 hrs ago #5
It's not "probably" true. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #12
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #13
I haven't heard a lot of talk, but I've heard that Tammy Duckworth and Amy Klobuchar are in the running. lees1975 9 hrs ago #36
one hears amy klobuchar is running for governor of MN nt msongs 9 hrs ago #37
I'll believe that when I see it. KPN 12 hrs ago #29
I'm revolted Katcat 12 hrs ago #33
The leaders will start following the people leftstreet 14 hrs ago #2
From you lips to dog's ear! 3_Limes 14 hrs ago #6
It'll be a grudge match between AIPAC dollars and real progressivism Ponietz 14 hrs ago #18
Well, at least it might finally be a match leftstreet 13 hrs ago #27
I hope so. themaguffin 14 hrs ago #22
In times of existential crisis it is good to have leaders who are prayerful and full of inertia dalton99a 14 hrs ago #3
The losing will continue until that lesson is learned. RockRaven 14 hrs ago #4
If democracy lasts that long, 3_Limes 14 hrs ago #8
I would count loss of democracy as a perpetual losing. RockRaven 14 hrs ago #9
Take aggressive action against those who sought to bring our democracy down. GreenWave 14 hrs ago #7
That is exactly what happened when we got control of the White House and both houses of Congress in 2020. lees1975 14 hrs ago #10
Well back then "The Squad" had like 4 members leftstreet 14 hrs ago #14
Well. Uh. . . 3_Limes 14 hrs ago #17
Sorry. lees1975 14 hrs ago #20
The billionaires switched sides and their money assured a right leaning candidate Ponietz 14 hrs ago #21
They went back to the old school because they ARE old school. Trueblue Texan 12 hrs ago #30
Opposing 21st century evil EverHopeful 14 hrs ago #11
A LOT of people are going to act that way. WhiskeyGrinder 14 hrs ago #15
If the young gen hasn't grasped the reins of leadership by then, the old guard will let bygones be bygones. CrispyQ 14 hrs ago #16
That is one of, if not my biggest concern outside of the logistics of cleaning up this mess & rebuilding themaguffin 14 hrs ago #19
Aggressiveness without high intellect is worthless gulliver 14 hrs ago #23
Don't worry about it! usonian 14 hrs ago #24
I'm curious. Who are your Senators? Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #25
Padilla and Schiff. Shit disturbers both. Bobstandard 12 hrs ago #31
Otherwsie PATRICK 13 hrs ago #26
The Democratic caucus votes for leadership. No need for character attacks, negative insinuations about age, motivations. betsuni 13 hrs ago #28
That's basically what they did when Biden won after trump's first term senseandsensibility 12 hrs ago #32
That is the plan. Guaranteed thats what will be attempted quakerboy 11 hrs ago #34
I would love to participate in this conversation...but I can't. Iggo 11 hrs ago #35

BannonsLiver

(20,503 posts)
1. Schumer won't be majority leader if we get the senate back.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:17 PM
14 hrs ago

There would be a mass revolt.

3_Limes

(497 posts)
5. That's probably true. But I worry that we'll take the safe, vanilla, "moderate" choice for his replacement
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:25 PM
14 hrs ago

And leave ourselves sitting ducks for MAGA ti push over.

BannonsLiver

(20,503 posts)
12. It's not "probably" true.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:41 PM
14 hrs ago

He’s not going to be majority leader again. Period. As for the rest of it, I’m not too pro on borrowing trouble from tomorrow for today. We’ve got enough to worry about in the present.

Response to 3_Limes (Reply #5)

lees1975

(7,009 posts)
36. I haven't heard a lot of talk, but I've heard that Tammy Duckworth and Amy Klobuchar are in the running.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:23 PM
9 hrs ago

Along with Mark Kelly, who would be my #1 choice.

leftstreet

(40,285 posts)
2. The leaders will start following the people
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:21 PM
14 hrs ago

It seems like 10 million progressive leaning Democrats are popping up and swarming local and national races. They're really taking advantage of the Trump/GOP favor-ability meltdown, and also rallying those who've lost faith in govt.

Leaders will have no choice but to make some accommodations to keep their appointments

Ponietz

(4,290 posts)
18. It'll be a grudge match between AIPAC dollars and real progressivism
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:52 PM
14 hrs ago

Also, the billionaires always switch sides when their party becomes toxic to voters. They use their money, oops, I meant speech, to drown our voices out, and we end up with a right-leaning candidate. Leadership and the DNC show no real motivation to change.

leftstreet

(40,285 posts)
27. Well, at least it might finally be a match
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:21 PM
13 hrs ago

You're absolutely right.

But with a stronger progressive, non-AIPAC showing in seats, maybe maybe maybe we could finally get an actual match

dalton99a

(93,836 posts)
3. In times of existential crisis it is good to have leaders who are prayerful and full of inertia
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:25 PM
14 hrs ago

GreenWave

(12,598 posts)
7. Take aggressive action against those who sought to bring our democracy down.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:27 PM
14 hrs ago

No more kicking the can down the road or we are moving on past this. It will only get worse.

lees1975

(7,009 posts)
10. That is exactly what happened when we got control of the White House and both houses of Congress in 2020.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:37 PM
14 hrs ago

They did NOTHING! Schumer, Durbin, even Biden, went right back to the old school way of doing things, as if January 6th and the Trump administration had never happened.

So as a result, a six-MAGA member Supreme Court continued in its gross negligence and incompetence, and immorality, unchecked when we had the power to pack it with judges who would have not only neutralized the incompetence, but who would have undone everything they did.

Seemss to me the Republicans were able, during that time, to block just about everything that would have made real structural changes, and other than the infrastructure bill, and a couple of other left side economic policies, we still have no campaign finance reform, we didn't put anything in place to make Obamacare permanent and untouchable, and somehow our justice department frittered away four years with indictments on the table because of gross incompetence of an attorney general who never sshould have been hired. If we'd have packed the court, Eileen Cannon and the others who delayed for Trump would have been made irrelevant. Trump would have been tried and imprisoned and made ineligible to run again and we would not be here now.

It makes marches and protests look like lemurs falling off a cliff.

leftstreet

(40,285 posts)
14. Well back then "The Squad" had like 4 members
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:41 PM
14 hrs ago

There wasn't much they could do in terms of influence

If the current crop of progressives are successful electorally, they'll make some of those squaddies look kinda conservative!

Ponietz

(4,290 posts)
21. The billionaires switched sides and their money assured a right leaning candidate
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:59 PM
14 hrs ago

Then, they used their money to flood the media with outrageous claims, hysterical criticism, cheap shots, and propaganda tailored to influence the particular recipient. The game has been rigged for almost 50 years, but the scheme metastasized after Citizen’s United. They engineered this shit show.

Trueblue Texan

(4,403 posts)
30. They went back to the old school because they ARE old school.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 02:26 PM
12 hrs ago

This is not to disparage--it's just the truth. They are of a generation that respected norms. They simply did not appreciate where we are today--we must codify the norms and ENFORCE the code! We cannot rely on unwritten rules--they have to protect democracy in the law first, WHILE they hold the traitors who tried to destroy our nation accountable.

EverHopeful

(684 posts)
11. Opposing 21st century evil
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:40 PM
14 hrs ago

with 20th century decorum ISN'T WORKING.

No more pretending we are dealing with responsible, ethical human beings. I'd also advocate for becoming signatories to the ICC since we seem unable or unwilling to hold criminals accountable.

CrispyQ

(40,909 posts)
16. If the young gen hasn't grasped the reins of leadership by then, the old guard will let bygones be bygones.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:43 PM
14 hrs ago

And four years later the country will vote in another republican. Seen on FB: The problem with American politics is that the Republicans & the Democrats are both afraid of the republican base, but neither are afraid of the democratic base. We need to change that.

themaguffin

(5,144 posts)
19. That is one of, if not my biggest concern outside of the logistics of cleaning up this mess & rebuilding
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:52 PM
14 hrs ago

gulliver

(13,931 posts)
23. Aggressiveness without high intellect is worthless
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:04 PM
14 hrs ago

There are a bunch of people out there who can raise a fuss who are talentless, or only good at putting on a show to impress the gullible. It's really hard to get people with good leadership skills and high intelligence into a career in public service. It's hard work, low pay, and it's unappreciated. Some emoting idiot will always be able to make himself or herself preferred by the gullible.

I happen to think Schumer is very smart and capable leader. He can even be tougher than he has been. You can see that in video, for example, of him in the past. I just think his hands are tied by the people who like drama and think they're in one.

usonian

(24,878 posts)
24. Don't worry about it!
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:12 PM
14 hrs ago
If we present weak leadership to the voters, we'll never win.
A Revolutionary Democratic Party is needed to win.

PERIOD.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13244015
A grassroots revolution is needed for the party to win.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=420478
The Democcratic Party needs to be REVOLUTIONARY, not reactionary. That is how we win. PERIOD.

OUR PRINCIPLES ARE SEEN AS WINNERS.


OUR PRINCIPALS ARE SEEN AS COUCH POTATOES.


Found on the Lexington Green.



Please add more.
And P.S. You're as old as you think (and act!)

Quiet Em

(2,871 posts)
25. I'm curious. Who are your Senators?
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:15 PM
14 hrs ago

Are they Democrats? Republicans? What are your Senators doing? Are one of your Senators ready to step up and lead?

PATRICK

(12,378 posts)
26. Otherwsie
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:20 PM
13 hrs ago

the GOP should be ruled a non- or un-constitutional party and the so-called center Democrats would electorally disappear- or else that party too. Or the good old days of plutocracy WILL continue on as they have for many many decades howsoever they choose.

betsuni

(29,011 posts)
28. The Democratic caucus votes for leadership. No need for character attacks, negative insinuations about age, motivations.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:26 PM
13 hrs ago

senseandsensibility

(24,811 posts)
32. That's basically what they did when Biden won after trump's first term
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 02:56 PM
12 hrs ago

Didn't work out too well and would be even worse this time.

quakerboy

(14,841 posts)
34. That is the plan. Guaranteed thats what will be attempted
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 03:16 PM
11 hrs ago

Live and let live, focus on the future not the past, etc. Its coming.

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