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Gaugamela

(3,486 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 05:40 PM 20 hrs ago

Notice how when three or four women accuse Cesar Chavez of rape and

pedophilia the left immediately acknowledges them and multiple municipalities begin the process of removing his name from public sites. But long after Trump is accused by 30 women of rape and sexual misconduct, after a tape of him bragging about molesting women is played repeatedly on national media, after he is adjudicated to be guilty of sexual assault in a court of law, after he is accused in a sworn statement to the FBI for having raped the accuser when she was a thirteen year old girl, after his name appears over a million times in the emails and records of a globally known pedophile and child sex trafficker — the Republicans name an airport after him.

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Notice how when three or four women accuse Cesar Chavez of rape and (Original Post) Gaugamela 20 hrs ago OP
Exactly... Spazito 20 hrs ago #1
I'll say... Roy Rolling 18 hrs ago #22
Yup, noticed that. 2naSalit 19 hrs ago #2
Gold coin Whip-poor-will 19 hrs ago #3
Delores Huerta is an icon and beloved by millions MichMan 19 hrs ago #4
Post removed Post removed 19 hrs ago #6
She is. Sequoia 19 hrs ago #7
They should put her name BaronChocula 18 hrs ago #14
I don't think they should put anyone's name. It was a movement. LisaM 18 hrs ago #17
That's an interesting idea EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #23
I have pondered this a lot the last few election cycles. LisaM 17 hrs ago #24
Agree! Everytime any DEM politician or media person scores a solid point against the GOP, we have a chorus Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #28
Michael Avenatti is a prime example MichMan 17 hrs ago #29
A perfect example. LisaM 17 hrs ago #31
I agree jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #42
The problem is shameless floozy 40 min ago #50
Everything named after him MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #15
Precisely... 110% WarGamer 18 hrs ago #18
I think you deserve ice cream for that post but first maybe some wings and fries. Fine dining. twodogsbarking 19 hrs ago #5
It makes me wonder exactly how many of these republiSCUM politicians have similar crimes MLWR 19 hrs ago #8
Yes, but Chavez had an untarnished reputation for about 65 years longer than he should have. milestogo 19 hrs ago #9
Checking before posting. BidenRocks 19 hrs ago #10
For Pukes, rape and pedophilia are a feature, not a bug. paleotn 19 hrs ago #11
ALL of which demonstrates beyond the remotest shadow of a doubt... GiqueCee 19 hrs ago #12
They have a street in SF they renamed for him and I know they are going to change it back to its original Army kimbutgar 18 hrs ago #13
Allegedly has taken on a new meaning. BidenRocks 18 hrs ago #19
So Dolores Huerta is a liar, right? valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #27
That is quite a leap to "liar". BidenRocks 17 hrs ago #30
What about the "Street of Unacknowledged Women"? RockCreek 11 hrs ago #40
ding. this . AllaN01Bear 18 hrs ago #16
Makes me sick! bfoxmatt 18 hrs ago #20
They put his name on THE John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts!! chowder66 18 hrs ago #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Figarosmom 17 hrs ago #25
She wasn't "paid." Dolores Huerta isn't some "old lady." valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #26
For those who claim the Chavez story has "suspicious timing," valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #32
They have no shame. (nc) GAJMac 16 hrs ago #33
Great point! debsy 16 hrs ago #34
We already know they are hypocrites and we are honest, ethical supporters of the truth. Martin68 16 hrs ago #35
The NY Times did what the FBI failed to do: investigate women's ciaims. Specifically, Liberty Belle 15 hrs ago #36
As hard as it is to watch him plaster his name all over everything, Marie Marie 14 hrs ago #37
Living or dead, red or blue IDGAF Maru Kitteh 14 hrs ago #38
We can only conclude that acceptance of sexual misconduct is part of the Republican agenda thought crime 13 hrs ago #39
I Get Your Main Point, But Your Detail Re: Airport, Cannot Be Found. ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #41
I wondered about that line.nt jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #43
Yes, they did. PBI is being renamed obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #45
yep, the exact opposite of the right. themaguffin 3 hrs ago #44
That's White supremacy for ya... New Breed Leader 3 hrs ago #46
It's disturbing that so many knew this about the con artist yet voted for him anyway Quiet Em 3 hrs ago #47
Cesar Chavez gfarber 1 hr ago #48
Notice also - cab67 53 min ago #49
Isn't it obvious...? regnaD kciN 33 min ago #51
And he is still Traildogbob 26 min ago #52
Yes... BlueWaveNeverEnd 22 min ago #53

Whip-poor-will

(177 posts)
3. Gold coin
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 05:51 PM
19 hrs ago

Let's define the new trump gold plated coin "a raper" like we do with penny, dime, quarter.

There are no alternate facts to rape don't you know.

MichMan

(17,092 posts)
4. Delores Huerta is an icon and beloved by millions
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 05:55 PM
19 hrs ago

It wouldn't have had nearly the impact had it been anyone else leveling the accusations.

Response to MichMan (Reply #4)

Sequoia

(12,751 posts)
7. She is.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:09 PM
19 hrs ago

Especially here in N. California. She was a guest lecturer at our local JC a few years ago.

LisaM

(29,610 posts)
17. I don't think they should put anyone's name. It was a movement.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:00 PM
18 hrs ago

For some reason, we seem to need to attach names to what are really broad grassroots causes. It should be Farm Workers Day or UFW Hall, etc.

I guess there might be some schools and so forth that have a name on them, but it seems to me that part of what's going on is that we have this need to idolize individuals over the cause they represent. And most individuals aren't perfect.

EdmondDantes_

(1,731 posts)
23. That's an interesting idea
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:41 PM
18 hrs ago

Not that anybody doesn't have the ability to cause harm, but the more power in whatever form, the easier it is to abuse that power.

LisaM

(29,610 posts)
24. I have pondered this a lot the last few election cycles.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:48 PM
17 hrs ago

People are so anxious to have a charismatic candidate they often don't even care if they're qualified! In the meantime, the meat and bones of the party or the cause or whatever are rarely discussed. I know I blather on about the Democratic party platform being ignored at the convention, but I really believe this need for rock star candidates is bogging us down.

Attilatheblond

(8,797 posts)
28. Agree! Everytime any DEM politician or media person scores a solid point against the GOP, we have a chorus
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:20 PM
17 hrs ago

of hero-worshipers going on about how that person should be our candidate for POTUS. It is lazy, annoying and pretty naive.

You hit the nail on the head "People are so anxious to have a charismatic candidate they often don't even care if they're qualified!"

Good DEM candidates tend to be well rounded, well versed in the issues facing the nation, and possessed of resumes showing a variety of experiences that build into a career that holds up qualifications and demonstrates temperament, judgement, and common sense. Then have to be team builders, able to draw good people with specialized knowledge and skills to cover ALL the departments of the executive branch, and they have to be comfortable enough to trust the experts they appoint.

Grasping at the latest clever pundit isn't gonna give us that candidate.

Ignoring those necessary qualifications and going for someone who says what people want to hear is how the GOP ended up with the worst president this nation has ever been saddled with.

MichMan

(17,092 posts)
29. Michael Avenatti is a prime example
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:25 PM
17 hrs ago

People here were touting him as a presidential candidate

jfz9580m

(17,111 posts)
42. I agree
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:05 AM
8 hrs ago

It further ends up only promoting these charismatic types who turn out to have the characteristics of cult leaders.

50. The problem is
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:07 PM
40 min ago

there were multiple victims. And I don't think we want to highlight victimhood. I realize that they might be celebrating her achievements but now unfortunately she's on the radar due to a sordid situation.

It kind of pisses me off that we worship human beings in the first place via statues, etc. Humans are all too fallible. Even MLK had an FBI dossier involving orgies and who knows what else. As a minister as well as the times it occurred, it would have surely erased his legacy. But people are complex: capable of good along with a potential dark side.

twodogsbarking

(18,598 posts)
5. I think you deserve ice cream for that post but first maybe some wings and fries. Fine dining.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:01 PM
19 hrs ago

MLWR

(1,000 posts)
8. It makes me wonder exactly how many of these republiSCUM politicians have similar crimes
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:18 PM
19 hrs ago

in their unwritten CVs.

milestogo

(23,042 posts)
9. Yes, but Chavez had an untarnished reputation for about 65 years longer than he should have.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:28 PM
19 hrs ago

BidenRocks

(3,211 posts)
10. Checking before posting.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:28 PM
19 hrs ago

Here you are posting the exact same thing I was going to. There must be millions of us thinking this!
Chump is a convicted sexual felon!
Equal treatment MUST be applied!
Disappear his name and likeness.
Take his voice too!

paleotn

(22,151 posts)
11. For Pukes, rape and pedophilia are a feature, not a bug.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:36 PM
19 hrs ago

We should remember that whenever we see anyone still carrying the Republican brand. Be it my governor, Phil Scott, Susan Collins or Markwayne Mullin, who's apparently the best and brightest Oklahoma has to offer.

GiqueCee

(4,098 posts)
12. ALL of which demonstrates beyond the remotest shadow of a doubt...
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:44 PM
19 hrs ago

... that the Republican Party has, indeed, metastasized into a terrorist organization with the moral compass of a pack of rabid hyenas.
They are filth, and they should be treated the same way that Germany treated the Nazi Party after WWII. Banned from existence for all eternity.
It's worth noting that the Founding Fathers loathed the very thought of political parties existing at all. Sadly, that's one concept that didn't take. And look at us now.

kimbutgar

(27,206 posts)
13. They have a street in SF they renamed for him and I know they are going to change it back to its original Army
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:48 PM
18 hrs ago

St. I was so upset and disgusted when I heard Ms. Huerta confess it!

BidenRocks

(3,211 posts)
19. Allegedly has taken on a new meaning.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:08 PM
18 hrs ago

The news is GLEEFULLY reporting this story!

Allegedly: A term used when something is said to be true but has not been confirmed or substantiated. Used to describe a person who has been charged with a crime, though a final decision has not been reached by a court.

There is more evidence of wrongdoing from chump!

I am defending nothing except the rule of law.
If Chavez were still around, the mob would be getting a rope and tree ready.

valleyrogue

(2,695 posts)
27. So Dolores Huerta is a liar, right?
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:00 PM
17 hrs ago

Were you there? She says she had TWO CHILDREN as a result of rapes by Chavez.

She has absolutely NOTHING to gain by saying this sixty, sixty-five years after the fact.

BidenRocks

(3,211 posts)
30. That is quite a leap to "liar".
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:27 PM
17 hrs ago

I was reading the definition of allegation.
Chavez is not legally convicted of anything.
Chump is.

I am amazed at the speed of this. Statues down and things renamed.
Meanwhile a convicted sexual abuser is president.

I'm too old for this shit.

bfoxmatt

(51 posts)
20. Makes me sick!
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:14 PM
18 hrs ago

What is wrong with people who can't see through our piece-of-shit pervert in chief! I really don't think all Repubs are that evil, but I also hate to think that they are that dumb to believe in Dump!

Response to Gaugamela (Original post)

valleyrogue

(2,695 posts)
26. She wasn't "paid." Dolores Huerta isn't some "old lady."
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 07:59 PM
17 hrs ago

She is a major, major figure in the history of union rights for farm workers. She is as celebrated as it gets.

valleyrogue

(2,695 posts)
32. For those who claim the Chavez story has "suspicious timing,"
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:45 PM
17 hrs ago

the NYT reporters worked on this story for FIVE years. This wasn't something that was concocted by the political right.

Chavez was a piece of shit rapist. His reputation is ruined through his own actions.

Martin68

(27,626 posts)
35. We already know they are hypocrites and we are honest, ethical supporters of the truth.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 09:44 PM
16 hrs ago

Liberty Belle

(9,706 posts)
36. The NY Times did what the FBI failed to do: investigate women's ciaims. Specifically,
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 09:51 PM
15 hrs ago

They spent 5 years investigating claims of sexual abuse by Chavez.
They interviewed 60 people.
They got 3 women to go on record, by name, including the famous and respected Dolores Huerta.
They got family members to confirm that 2 victims told the relatives at the time that they were raped or molested by Chavez around ages 13 to 15.
They pored through emails and other correspondence.
They obtained DNA evidence proving Chavez had fathered several children out of wedlock.

If the FBI had investigated even a fraction of the most serious claims against Trump and had the Justice Dept. been willing to file charges, he would be in prison today, not the White House. Instead, they turned a blind eye and actively covered up evidence, as did Pam Bondi when she was in Florida sweeping Epstein's crimes under the rug. They didn't even go after other men who raped children on Epstein's island. At least Britain and some corporations and schools are making efforts to hold people accountable who cavorted with Epstein, but not the U.S. Justice Dept., which has lost all credibility.

I suppose the only accountability most of those pedophiles will have will happen in hell.

Marie Marie

(11,229 posts)
37. As hard as it is to watch him plaster his name all over everything,
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:20 PM
14 hrs ago

it is going to be so much fun watching them remove it, one by one, as the disgrace of his Presidency becomes apparent and his corruption goes down in the history books as unprecedented and unparalleled.

Maru Kitteh

(31,679 posts)
38. Living or dead, red or blue IDGAF
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:28 PM
14 hrs ago

Whoever they are, wherever they are found, they need to be called out and removed from society.

Quiet Em

(2,897 posts)
47. It's disturbing that so many knew this about the con artist yet voted for him anyway
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 10:24 AM
3 hrs ago

It's disturbing that so many are still willing to turn a blind eye to it. I get your point and your frustration that the condemnation against those who commit these acts is not equally applied and that is a very sad reflection on our society.

The victims, or survivors, all endured the same pain and feelings of isolation.

gfarber

(275 posts)
48. Cesar Chavez
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:36 PM
1 hr ago


There once was Cesar Chavez’s name in the sun,
Till critics said “this guy’s undone,”
The left said “oh hell,
That doesn’t sit well,”
And started scrubbing him, one by one.

But when Donald Trump made the news burn,
With scandals at every damn turn,
His fans yelled “who cares?”
And doubled their dares,
Like outrage was something to spurn.

With tapes and with lawsuits and more,
Enough to make decent folks roar,
Some shouted “disgrace!”
Others shrugged in his place—
And handed him keys to the door.

So what gets erased, what survives,
Depends on whose tribe’s in the hives,
One side says “repent,”
The other? “He’s meant
To win—screw the rest of your lives.”

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cab67

(3,732 posts)
49. Notice also -
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:54 PM
53 min ago

that those of us on the left are willing to accept the complex nature of Chavez's legacy. We know the difference between removing monuments that honor him while still remembering (and, though perhaps to a lesser extent now, honoring) his accomplishments.

That's why history isn't taught with monuments. We're not erasing what Chavez accomplished - only realizing that his entire legacy suggests he shouldn't be treated as the great man we used to think he was.

regnaD kciN

(27,621 posts)
51. Isn't it obvious...?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:14 PM
33 min ago

It’s right out there in, if not black-and-white, certainly brown and white.

Traildogbob

(12,997 posts)
52. And he is still
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 01:20 PM
26 min ago

Pushing for Mt Rushmore.
Sure, right next to Obama. That’ll pink mist some MAGA heads into their red hats.

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