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surfered

(13,265 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 10:45 AM 21 hrs ago

For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran:

The President is now simultaneously claiming that he won the war, is currently wining the war, needs help to win the war, and needs no help to win the war.

All to destroy the nuclear program he claims to have already destroyed last year.

Hope this helps.

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For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran: (Original Post) surfered 21 hrs ago OP
Yep, Jibber...jabber always explains failure. walkingman 21 hrs ago #1
And we need $200 billion to win that war which is already won. nt Shermann 21 hrs ago #2
And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war? peppertree 10 hrs ago #55
Yep, that makes it easy to understand. Emile 21 hrs ago #3
Thank you. I am now knowledgeable. About what, I don't know. NT mahatmakanejeeves 21 hrs ago #4
I feel stupider after COL Mustard 19 hrs ago #22
That makes everything crystal clear... Spazito 20 hrs ago #5
Hims brain wires is crossed and causing a short circus in hims head struggle4progress 20 hrs ago #6
Hahaha Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #17
True. And that malady is widespread in Congress and with MAGAites. FailureToCommunicate 19 hrs ago #21
"And the Strait of Hormuz is a very quick, simple and easy job, but I can't do it" dalton99a 20 hrs ago #7
Damn strait! BattleRow 18 hrs ago #35
Good one. wnylib 18 hrs ago #36
Ha! Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #50
He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law usonian 20 hrs ago #8
Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos, wnylib 18 hrs ago #38
Bernie "KAOS" Kopell inside. usonian 18 hrs ago #42
OT, but I wanted to add area51 9 hrs ago #56
Wow. Didn't know she was still alive. wnylib 9 hrs ago #57
translation TBF 20 hrs ago #9
Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices Buckeyeblue 18 hrs ago #28
You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive. Iggo 18 hrs ago #39
Nailed it malaise 20 hrs ago #10
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Swede 20 hrs ago #11
😁 surfered 19 hrs ago #18
Thank you for illluminating the situation. Amaryllis 20 hrs ago #12
Well, that seems, well, Trump. twodogsbarking 20 hrs ago #13
That was yesterday. Let's see what today brings. 33taw 19 hrs ago #14
Truly surfered 19 hrs ago #19
Trump is an Escher drawing come to life. (n/t) thesquanderer 19 hrs ago #15
That's an insult to Escher! HarryM 18 hrs ago #25
Omg. He's a demented horse's ass. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #16
Thank you for your explanation that makes everything as clear as mud. mwmisses4289 19 hrs ago #20
Thank you for that excellent explanation surfered. It all makes sense now! KPN 18 hrs ago #23
That just makes it confusing for some HarryM 18 hrs ago #24
What else can we expect from this "stable genius"? La Coliniere 18 hrs ago #26
Well,a stable is where most horses asses are,right? BattleRow 14 hrs ago #51
Perfectly clear orangecrush 18 hrs ago #27
And all after he tore up the agreement that Pres. Obama had negotiated with Iran. Nt spooky3 18 hrs ago #29
If only the Japanese would send Godzilla... sop 18 hrs ago #30
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote 18 hrs ago #31
😂😂😂😂😂 underpants 18 hrs ago #32
+1 dalton99a 18 hrs ago #41
Those are great! surfered 10 hrs ago #54
Thanks! That really clears things up! Turbineguy 18 hrs ago #33
He's a fucking mad man ZDU 18 hrs ago #34
...and also that it's not a war. Iggo 18 hrs ago #37
You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices newdeal2 18 hrs ago #40
And it's actually "NOT a war" Pluvious 17 hrs ago #43
Haha. The not-a-war War Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #49
You mean the Epstein war. nt Javaman 16 hrs ago #44
+1 Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #48
Its all Cherokee100 16 hrs ago #45
Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims? Ilikepurple 16 hrs ago #46
Sums it up. The decision-making here is almost as bad as the job market. Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #47
Trump won't be happy Aussie105 11 hrs ago #52
I agree with Professor Snyder LetMyPeopleVote 11 hrs ago #53
Interesting quote jfz9580m 3 hrs ago #58

peppertree

(23,302 posts)
55. And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 09:43 PM
10 hrs ago

All the Epstein files have been already released, don'tchaknow.

COL Mustard

(8,185 posts)
22. I feel stupider after
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 12:37 PM
19 hrs ago

Any event where I listen to him speak. He’s personally removed at least 25 IQ points from my already room temperature intelligence.

usonian

(25,056 posts)
8. He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:11 AM
20 hrs ago

wnylib

(25,869 posts)
38. Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos,
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:45 PM
18 hrs ago

I had a quick mental image memory of Maxwell Smart and his sidekick, Agent 99, fighting against their arch enemy, CHAOS.

Except to them, CHAOS was an enemy, not their friend, even though Smart constantly created chaos in his wake.

TBF

(36,542 posts)
9. translation
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:25 AM
20 hrs ago

orange guy is giving Bibi cover, because it's a great distraction from sinking poll numbers, devastating economy, and epstein/trump files. all orange guy wants to do is make billions and stay out of jail.

Buckeyeblue

(6,345 posts)
28. Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:13 PM
18 hrs ago

Honestly, that was only thing that seemed to be cheaper. And now that's gone. Gas is higher today than it ever was under Biden. $3.99 in my southwest Michigan town.

Iggo

(49,904 posts)
39. You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive.
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
18 hrs ago

HarryM

(461 posts)
24. That just makes it confusing for some
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:04 PM
18 hrs ago

For others, it is quite clear that he hasn’t a clue, and is lying his posterior off.

La Coliniere

(1,912 posts)
26. What else can we expect from this "stable genius"?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:08 PM
18 hrs ago

His ability to appraise a situation is the greatest we’ve ever seen!

newdeal2

(5,354 posts)
40. You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
18 hrs ago

Trump is saving us...from something bad...

Cherokee100

(453 posts)
45. Its all
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 02:58 PM
16 hrs ago

It's all about the Epstein files and how much money, trump is putting in his pocket/off shore bank accounts.

Ilikepurple

(627 posts)
46. Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 03:15 PM
16 hrs ago

Once you accept a contradiction, it’s hard to refute its constituent statements both in logic and practice. We voters generally disfavor flip floppers as being insincere opportunists, but what do we say when someone holds opposite views concurrently? One would hope that our response as a voting population would be even more severe, but alas we unsuccessfully are relegated to arguing against both propositions simultaneously. I think it is rather successful at muddling our minds’ natural and learned logical intuition.

Aussie105

(7,884 posts)
52. Trump won't be happy
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 08:14 PM
11 hrs ago

until the rest of the world is as confused and in as much of a shambles as the inside of his head.

Job only partly done, but he and his flying monkeys are working on it.

The pointless deaths and destruction are his and Bibi's contribution to the world.

You can thank them later.
The WW2 Mussolini 'reward' might be appropriate.
Or the Sadam Hussein 'reward'.
Either one will do.

One thing I have been wondering about though:
The US has declared Iran the 'bad guy who shouldn't have nukes' and it's ok to murder their leadership.
What happens if Iran decides the US is the 'bad guy', and shouldn't have nukes, then repays the leadership murder part of the drama?

jfz9580m

(17,131 posts)
58. Interesting quote
Sun Mar 22, 2026, 04:35 AM
3 hrs ago

Timothy Snyder? I have heard of him. He is a history professor who moved to Canada.

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