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dalton99a

(94,274 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:12 AM Mar 24

Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html

Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
Prince Mohammed bin Salman sees a “historic opportunity” to remake the region, according to people briefed by U.S. officials on the conversations.
By Julian E. Barnes, Tyler Pager and Eric Schmitt
March 24, 2026, 9:06 a.m. ET

Saudi Arabia’s de facto leader, Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has been pushing President Trump to continue the war against Iran, arguing that the U.S.-Israeli military campaign presents a “historic opportunity” to remake the Middle East, according to people briefed by American officials on the conversations.

In a series of conversations over the last week, Prince Mohammed has conveyed to Mr. Trump that he must press toward the destruction of Iran’s hard-line government, the people familiar with the conversations said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel also views Iran as a long-term threat, but analysts say Israeli officials would probably view a failed Iranian state that is too caught up in internal turmoil to menace Israel as a win, while Saudi Arabia views a failed state in Iran as a grave and direct security threat.

But senior officials in both the Saudi and American governments worry that if the conflict drags on, Iran could deliver ever more punishing attacks on Saudi oil installations and the United States could be stuck in an endless war.

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Bonesaw should pay for his own damn wars

Of the 19 hijackers who carried out 9/11: 15 were Saudi Arabian, two were from UAE and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. None from Iraq. None from Iran.





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Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls (Original Post) dalton99a Mar 24 OP
There's always a replacement beast waiting in the wings UTUSN Mar 24 #1
First thing I read this morning flamingdem Mar 24 #14
In other words, after a couple billion $ paid to assface and his cronies, Buns_of_Fire Mar 24 #2
How many soldiers is Saudi Arabia committing to the effort? Renew Deal Mar 24 #3
As many of ours as it takes durablend Mar 24 #7
Well, now that Iran knows a Saudi prince is pulling Trump's strings, Baitball Blogger Mar 24 #4
Bonesaw should think about his desalination plants dalton99a Mar 24 #6
Somebody here on DU -- in the know unlike me -- displacedvermoter Mar 24 #5
+1 dalton99a Mar 24 #8
This ghoul has got to go! purr-rat beauty Mar 24 #15
Bonesaw is a psychopath. Just like DJ. They don't "moderate" anything. littlemissmartypants Mar 24 #13
And Putin. Remember him high fiving MBS after the murder of Khassogi (apologies for spelling wrong)? Evolve Dammit Mar 24 #29
Putin is definitely a psychopath. But he's not the prince of Saudi Arabia. littlemissmartypants Mar 24 #30
Yes United States Coolgoober Mar 24 #9
I hope that becomes common knowledge all over the Middle East. Solly Mack Mar 24 #10
I wonder if the Saudi's have a copy of the Epstein files? LOL nt Javaman Mar 24 #11
Remember when all those intelligence assets ended up dead? LuvLoogie Mar 24 #12
Trump is a treasonous traitor. I don't care what the law says! KPN Mar 24 #16
So, we're fighting a proxy war for the Saudis????? BurnDoubt Mar 24 #17
Be careful what you wish for Arazi Mar 24 #18
Points 1 and 2, or 2 and 1. taxi Mar 24 #22
The Saudis are about to find out if they will get their money's worth. Marcuse Mar 24 #19
He's gonna wind up like Shah Reza Pahlavi if this keeps up. Crowman2009 Mar 24 #20
Israeli and Saudi foreign policy via American blood. paleotn Mar 24 #21
Yeah, I'll just bet he does Warpy Mar 24 #23
Dear Maga, Nice teenage son you got there... PuraVidaDreamin Mar 24 #24
Actual draft might not be needed, as the economy goes into the dumpster fire Attilatheblond Mar 24 #26
Congress must ABSOLUTELY force Bondi to release the entire, unredacted Epstein file or throw her in jail Attilatheblond Mar 24 #25
More money for Jared's personal business vapor2 Mar 24 #27
The PM of Israel and Prince Mohammed bin Salman ARE pressuring the PedoPrez... Bread and Circuses Mar 24 #28

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
1. There's always a replacement beast waiting in the wings
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:20 AM
Mar 24

************QUOTE*********

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming
The Second Coming
By William Butler Yeats
1919

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Copyright Credit: n/a
Source: The Collected Poems of W. B. Yeats (1989)


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Buns_of_Fire

(19,165 posts)
2. In other words, after a couple billion $ paid to assface and his cronies,
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:24 AM
Mar 24

Mohammed bin Bonesaw expects a return on his investment.

Baitball Blogger

(52,395 posts)
4. Well, now that Iran knows a Saudi prince is pulling Trump's strings,
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:30 AM
Mar 24

I guess you all know what's going to happen next.

displacedvermoter

(4,570 posts)
5. Somebody here on DU -- in the know unlike me --
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:37 AM
Mar 24

explained to me last week how the Saudis were a moderating force in the region, and never mind any alleged role in 911.

Remember anyone when Bush I got found out about showing Saudi officials war planning maps prior to the events in Gulf War I? Big story on 60 Minutes, very shocking at the time.

Nothing much has changed, although the Trump foreign affairs people are certainly far dumber than anyone Papa Bush had to mollify the Saudis.

littlemissmartypants

(33,783 posts)
13. Bonesaw is a psychopath. Just like DJ. They don't "moderate" anything.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 11:42 AM
Mar 24
Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

Evolve Dammit

(21,785 posts)
29. And Putin. Remember him high fiving MBS after the murder of Khassogi (apologies for spelling wrong)?
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:02 PM
Mar 24

littlemissmartypants

(33,783 posts)
30. Putin is definitely a psychopath. But he's not the prince of Saudi Arabia.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 08:38 PM
Mar 24

He probably wishes he was though.


Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

Coolgoober

(353 posts)
9. Yes United States
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:47 AM
Mar 24

Keep using your blood and treasure so we can be safe and keep beheading our own people every now and again.

LuvLoogie

(8,818 posts)
12. Remember when all those intelligence assets ended up dead?
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 11:20 AM
Mar 24

Kushner with no security clearance, overridden by trump, had access to that info. He likely sold it to the prince for the cash. The prince has the receipts.

We'll be there until the prince is satisfied.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
18. Be careful what you wish for
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:24 PM
Mar 24

Riyadh only exists because of their very vulnerable desalination plants …

It’s obvious to me that Traitor’s comments yesterday were designed to 1. prop up the market and 2. stall for time until the Marines get into the region on Friday.

That someone wants the blame for extending this war to fall on the Saudis is just another data point. Same as blaming Netanyahu for instigating this fiasco in the first place.

Don’t be fooled. This is all Traitor (and Hegseth’s) responsibility

Crowman2009

(3,529 posts)
20. He's gonna wind up like Shah Reza Pahlavi if this keeps up.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:43 PM
Mar 24

Especially if the water spigot runs dry.

paleotn

(22,261 posts)
21. Israeli and Saudi foreign policy via American blood.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:44 PM
Mar 24

Who's using who, Donnie.

And for the last damn time, Israel is a rich country. They don't need our military freebees. Not through my tax dollars. If you think differently, feel free to donate individually and leave the rest of us out of it.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
23. Yeah, I'll just bet he does
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 01:44 PM
Mar 24

The Saudis have been pushing this war for decades and they finally got an administration that was both stupid and pig ignorant and willing to do their dirty work for them.

I doubt the Saudis realized how stupidly this war would be fought, the Strait of Hormuz neglected until it was blocked.

Attilatheblond

(8,919 posts)
26. Actual draft might not be needed, as the economy goes into the dumpster fire
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 06:09 PM
Mar 24

Things get bad enough fast enough and the 'economic draft' situation kicks in.

Hey there, young Americans, wanna eat? Tired of sleeping on that park bench? Sign on the line.

Attilatheblond

(8,919 posts)
25. Congress must ABSOLUTELY force Bondi to release the entire, unredacted Epstein file or throw her in jail
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 06:06 PM
Mar 24

Because keeping so much under wraps is giving too much power to a few heads of state in other nations who most likely do have full, unredacted copies and are using blackmail to lead Trump around by his tiny dick.

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