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4bonhoffer

(199 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 07:47 AM Wednesday

FINALLY, Thank you Nancy Pelosi

Finally a top democratic politician is talking about what a lot of us have been saying for years. Greg Palast has done a lot of great investigatory work on republicans repressing the vote for years. Using the government’s own figures he showed that if the amount of legitimate voters who were removed from the voting rolls had been allowed to vote that Kamala would have won. The leadership ignored this . Quite as mice.

Scott Leiendecker, a trump supporter, buys dominion voting machines and not a peep from our side. Most people are not even aware of this.

So to read that Pelosi is stating that we need to be aware that republicans may hack voting machines is a good thing. We absolutely have to show up in huge numbers to overcome anything that a trapped rat ( republicans ) will do. This alarm needs to be repeated loud and often by our leaders to get as many as possible to vote.

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FINALLY, Thank you Nancy Pelosi (Original Post) 4bonhoffer Wednesday OP
This thread is wrong gab13by13 Wednesday #1
Agreed bamagal62 Wednesday #2
If you mean they already cheat I agree. 58Sunliner Wednesday #4
So did Clinton. And FoxNewsSucks Wednesday #6
She is the right person to raise the issue, and to raise it in this way RockCreek Wednesday #3
They're going to cheat their asses off..... SergeStorms Wednesday #5
NO!!! Voting in massive numbers is NOT a remedy for PROGRAMMED voting machines! BComplex Wednesday #7
REC a thousand times. Amaryllis Wednesday #9
The more people who vote,... SpankMe Wednesday #11
Did they try it in 2020? Qutzupalotl Wednesday #12
No, for two reasons. BComplex Wednesday #13
There's hand counting paper ballots in full public view questionseverything Wednesday #15
Can white hat hackers detect this kind of malevolent intent? electric_blue68 Thursday #17
I have no doubt that it could be detected. The algorithm that was used, however, BComplex Yesterday #20
Uh, oh. I guess constantly monitoring? electric_blue68 Yesterday #23
Where is she talking about this? I want to read it. Been following Palast since the 2004 election was stolen. Amaryllis Wednesday #8
That's what I want to know. littlemissmartypants Thursday #16
Pointing this out is not enough. Even if every elected official points this out, it is not enough. The missing PatrickforB Wednesday #10
My understanding of the way hacking works... returnee Wednesday #14
the Dem 'leadership' didn't ignore attempts to manipulate the vote. They fucking impeached Trump for it bigtree Thursday #18
Sad part is, NOBODY here can say 100% if anything happened the last election. Everybody here has their own thoughts bluestarone Thursday #19
Except when all the evidence points to the election being accurate EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #21
But, see, they didn't "like" Hillary. And Kamala wasn't the best choice. MineralMan Yesterday #22

FoxNewsSucks

(11,729 posts)
6. So did Clinton. And
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:14 AM
Wednesday

Biden's margin was higher than the "official" result.

Republicons lie, cheat and steal. They've been doing it a long time

RockCreek

(1,473 posts)
3. She is the right person to raise the issue, and to raise it in this way
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:17 AM
Wednesday

Now I want to see hundreds more elected officials - Democrats and Independents - also address this situation.

SergeStorms

(20,599 posts)
5. They're going to cheat their asses off.....
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:41 AM
Wednesday

so we damned well better be prepared.

Forewarned is forearmed.

BComplex

(9,919 posts)
7. NO!!! Voting in massive numbers is NOT a remedy for PROGRAMMED voting machines!
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:16 AM
Wednesday

All the people that keep trotting this out ARE PART of the problem! You don't understand what "programming" does! YOU are likely programmed to actually believe that somehow this problem can be "overcome" with numbers.

It. can. NOT.

All a simple program has to do inside the computer is say, for instance:

Every vote cast for candidate A will instantly take that vote and send it and other votes over to candidate B, until enough votes give B the majority. This generally happens at the central tabulators where the precinct ballots are sent to the government agency in charge of the election in that area, but it can also happen to actual voting machines at the precinct level.

Russia's algorithm is the template used for all of this. It has been shown that the Russian algorithm is what elon and his billionaire silicon valley oligarchs had their teams do to install this program into the machines in 2024. It also happened in 2016.

There is no remedy for this algorithm besides taking control of the voting machines and tabulators.

SpankMe

(3,721 posts)
11. The more people who vote,...
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:48 AM
Wednesday

...the harder it will be to hide the hacked programming.

Analysis of the post electioin data - to include party affiliation numbers, exit polling, prior election results, etc. - would go a long way to proving that hacking/re-programming took place. Well-executed data science can reveal the web of lies.

If we vote in large numbers, it would be harder for them to claim that it was just an error within the margins of the backgroiund noise. The more who vote, the more amplified the effects of the hacking will appear.

Elections must be kept under local control. It must be bedrock law that both parties get to witness all vote counting and auditing of machines and software used to register votes. Total transparency of vote-collecting and vote-counting apparatus should be the rule of the day. By law, there should be no firewalls against inspections of these systems for "proprietary" reasons. It should all be open source.

BComplex

(9,919 posts)
13. No, for two reasons.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 05:14 PM
Wednesday

One: Trump really drank his own kool-aid and believed he would beat Joe Biden.

Two: The guy who was put in charge of elections security, Chris Krebs, was there to insure a completely safe vote. He should have also been in charge when Kamala Harris ran, too, but he wasn't. Trump fired him between the election and when Joe Biden took office in January.

Joe and Kamala failed to make sure the election was unhackable. We should focus on that from now on out. ALL of us!

BComplex

(9,919 posts)
20. I have no doubt that it could be detected. The algorithm that was used, however,
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

in 2024 was designed to erase all trace as soon as the execution was completed. Tricky, huh?

Amaryllis

(11,306 posts)
8. Where is she talking about this? I want to read it. Been following Palast since the 2004 election was stolen.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:36 AM
Wednesday

PatrickforB

(15,427 posts)
10. Pointing this out is not enough. Even if every elected official points this out, it is not enough. The missing
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:43 AM
Wednesday

part is us. We the people.

Over 8 million people showed up for No Kings 3/28. The organizers KNOW the Republicans plan to hack the voting machines JUST LIKE THE CRIMINAL THIEL DID WITH HIS PALANTIR. He created phantom counties to inflate the Trump/Vance ticket in return for a nice tax cut and massive government contracts. How else do you think there were so many so-called 'bullet ballots' (just marked Trump/Vance, nothing else) came through in PA? There is NO way Trump carried all six swing states. And we need to start talking about this ALL THE TIME. And acting on it.

Because of this the No Kings people are calling for a national strike on May 1.

See, we cannot just sit back and allow Congress and the Judicial system to continue to be ineffective in the face of this kakistocracy. These people are wreckers who went in the cabinet to destroy this republic.

So I plan to participate in the national strike on May 1 because I know we will have to stand up and go on a LONGER NATIONAL STRIKE after the Republicans try to fuck us by cheating this coming Nov. Will you?

Because the only thing these vile, immoral elites understand is money. They have been underestimating the power of the people for too long and my faith does not allow me to continue to cooperate with this evil regime.

returnee

(930 posts)
14. My understanding of the way hacking works...
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 07:35 PM
Wednesday

….it cannot be overcome by increasing our turnout. The algorithm will not allow it.

bigtree

(94,293 posts)
18. the Dem 'leadership' didn't ignore attempts to manipulate the vote. They fucking impeached Trump for it
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:38 AM
Thursday

...and were the only ones ACTING on it.

This post pushes off of those efforts and elevates the Dem who stepped down from the leadership, not bothering to take a minute to look to not only find and highlight what Democrats have done to secure the vote, but what the party is doing right NOW.

Such an unproductive and worthless effort that demagogues the party, as it does nothing but generate cynicism and apathy about the vote and ONE party's efforts to secure it.

The clue here for folks should be that STATES have primary responsibility for securing their votes, and the federal government has no authority or dominion over their 'voting machines,' states do, not the Dem leadership in Congress, no matter what Palast has written.

Do yourself a favor, if 'voter purges' really concern you, then take the time to look at what Democrats are doing to address them.

January 12, 2026
DNC Moves To Intervene in RNC vs. DeMarinis To Ensure Eligible Maryland Voters Aren’t Illegally Purged from the Voter Rolls
https://democrats.org/news/dnc-moves-to-intervene-in-rnc-vs-demarinis-to-ensure-eligible-maryland-voters-arent-illegally-purged-from-the-voter-rolls/

Dems move to defend Maryland voters in Republican purge lawsuit
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/dems-move-to-defend-maryland-voters-in-republican-purge-lawsuit/

October 10, 2025
Dems introduce bill to halt mass voter roll purges
The bill likely won’t get far in a GOP-controlled Congress, but proponents described it as part of a broader effort to push back through constitutional institutions.
https://cyberscoop.com/dems-introduce-bill-to-halt-mass-voter-roll-purges/

...NOT 'quite' as mice.


Lawsuit filed on behalf of DSCC, DNC, DCCC, DGA, and Schumer and Jeffries, to block Trump latest EO targeting voting
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221141349



...90 DUers recced this without a link or a hint when, where, or in what context she said this. Essentially gossip and projection.

bluestarone

(22,199 posts)
19. Sad part is, NOBODY here can say 100% if anything happened the last election. Everybody here has their own thoughts
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:54 AM
Thursday

about it though. We all heard that if there was cheating, they would have been discovered. Marc Elias was the named used most here on election cheating.I feel He IS one of our best Democracy protectors, BUT i cannot get out of my head that these BASTARDS cheated somehow. I was one that, ok we can't do anything about it, BUT back then we needed a recount especially in toss up states where WE have full control. That's how i felt then, and feel that way now. Sorry but that's how i feel. Now i fully expect them to do something that we've NEVER witnessed before in our country. Something that will stop counting or something.

EdmondDantes_

(1,808 posts)
21. Except when all the evidence points to the election being accurate
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

And the side claiming it wasn't has feelings and easily disproven claims such as those from Election Truth Alliance and the This Will Hold substack, saying nobody can say 100% is a lot like saying nobody can prove 100% that Bigfoot doesn't exist. I mean sure, maybe he's just really fast because humanity hasn't seen every inch of earth at the exact same time so maybe he's just never where we're looking, but that's just not probable given all of the context like no fossil remains, no confirmed sightings, etc. But you can't prove a negative.

If Republicans have a magic cheat button did they forget to give themselves bigger majorities in the House and Senate? Did they forget to use it in all the elections since?

Why did audits match up including in areas with paper ballots

Why did the Harris campaign and Democrats involved in the election process all get fooled?

Why do groups like the Brennan Center say the vote was fair?

MineralMan

(151,287 posts)
22. But, see, they didn't "like" Hillary. And Kamala wasn't the best choice.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:18 AM
Yesterday

Finally, Biden was too old and feeble. I saw all three things said multiple times right here and very often elswhere.

The naysayers will always come out when someone stresses GOTV for an election. Like clockwork, they come out of the woodwork to tell us why GOTV is a waste of time. And then...and then...the Republican cheating works to put terrible people in office.

GOTV is essential. Vigilance is also essential. Both things need to happen.

Oh, BTW, they don't "like" Nancy Pelosi, either.

Feh!

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