about how the Dems are using too much profanity? Just a couple of days ago? I mean, after trump's infamous Easter message with the F-bomb? I thought I saw something about that.

I was related by marriage to one of their executives and posted my story about him some time ago. He was an officious prick.

And THAT was just ONE of his more endearing qualities...

Everywhere I read and listen, every one is saying the word FUCK now.

Is this appropriate now?

I can remember the day I'd be confined to my room if I used this type of language.

I guess it is just AOK these days.

So who am I to contradict that stable genius?

... sorry... I had to

the kind you would see in college level libraries. Not necessarily in more "children" oriented editions.

Ooops… or not. I saved this video on youtube ages ago and it seems it’s now age-restricted. Bullshit! Such a versatile word!

Just FYI

Since I taught in the 70s!

But yeah, just one more example of the degradation and coarseness wrought and "normalized" by Trump upon the United States.

My hatred for him extends beyond the known Universe.

But I know what you mean about how it's being used more and more often these days, not just in casual conversation, but in situations where you wouldn't expect it to pop up.

Appropriate is a subjective term, imo. The way I look at it, words are just words. Humans make them up, humans determine what meanings to ascribe to them, and how much we react to them is also up to us, imo, at least to some extent.

That said, I do agree that the f word seems much more out of place in some contexts (like the president's tweets!) than others, and it can be jarring (even to me) to encounter it unexpectedly in some of those contexts.

At DU, where we're often discussing the latest horrible thing(s) Schlump has done, I often find myself resorting to the f word and its derivatives (f***ing, f***er/y, as f***, etc.) because it's gotten really hard to find other words that are strong enough to express how I'm feeling. I do have a much more extensive vocabulary, but there's nothing else that expresses the full extent of my loathing and contempt for that Orange Hellbeast tne way the f word does. I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it seems to be something I almost can't help doing these days. I know some of my recent posts have been pretty liberally laced with it, but that is a reflection of how distraught I was when I made thise posts.

Unfortunately, Schlump has reached a stage in his dementia where he is losing his impulse control and his ability to filter his thoughts before they come out of his mouth. He's always been a vile, despicable person, but he used to be able to behave in a way that concealed his worst qualities, especially when speaking publicly. He can still do that sometimes, but those times are getting fewer and farther between and will eventually be nonexistent. I'm afraid we're going to see more and more posts that are laced with cuss words from him, more and more disjointed and nonsensical "speeches," and more and more incidents where he calls someone "Piggy" (or worse), until he loses his verbal communication abilities completely. I just hope he's out of office before he gets to that point, because it's not going to be pretty,

Yes. I know.

I am reminded of a joke I read about Arthur Marx. Can't find it right now.

He was asking an uncle for sugar.

"Pass the sugar, you sun of a bitch"

Father Groucho had to remind him of his manners.
After being duly admonished, Arthur asked politely:

"PLEASE pass the sugar, you son of a bitch"



That said, in proper Bostonian: Screw these bastids to hell.

I do miss Boston, but not the weather, as a lightning storm runs through the Sierra Nevada foothills, bouncing electrical power up and down. Three times lately.

I am typing as fast as I can. (POST RIGHT THIS INSTANT)

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“I need a jacket to put on.”
“Don’t end a sentence with a preposition.”
“OK, I need a jacket to put on, asshole.”

When I feel like yelling JE*** CH****.

I remember her saying Gesu Cristo Aiutomi.

Jesus help me!

I am not very religious (It's Monday, The F-Word Lamp is lit. ) but I am respectful.


Besides, everyone knows that a preposition is bad to end a sentence with!

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

it is AMAZING what offends some people and what does not.........

What I do find offensive is racial, religious and ethnic slurs.

I see those as two entirely different things.

It is plain inappropriate.

I'm listening to some woman on MSNBC and every other word is FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

This is indicative of a poorly educated individual that lacks the ability to state what they think they are addressing.

It reeks of stupidity and yes, exactly, the SHOCK value of it has worn off!

It is plain stupid now. STUPID!

...but context is STILL important. Trump lovers like how he smashes boundaries but this really won't work for DEMS... not for journalists, not for Chris Murphy. They will still play a double standard. I get that people are angry and fed up but ultimately the ADULT still has the upper hand and expressing yourself as a mature adult should be the USUAL way to express ourselves .. though alone in front of the TV is a free fire zone!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I do not have cable TV and I do not have a phone.

I find it here: https://usnewson.com/watch/msnbc-live

I've tried 2 or 3 other streaming live but they are stop and start, and cover the screen with ads and stuff. This one goes smoothly!

It comes in great on my Windows 7 desktop that is still chugging along!

Glad you found this to be useful.

In fact, a study by psychologists from Marist College found links between how fluent a person is in the English language and how fluent they are in swearing.

The former - verbal fluency - can be measured by asking volunteers to think of as many words beginning with a certain letter of the alphabet as they can in 1 minute.

People with greater language skills can generally think of more examples in the allotted time. Based on this approach, the researchers created the swearing fluency task. This task requires volunteers to list as many different swear words as they can think of in 1 minute.

By comparing scores from both the verbal and swearing fluency tasks, it was found that the people who scored highest on the verbal fluency test also tended to do best on the swearing fluency task. The weakest in the verbal fluency test also did poorly on the swearing fluency task.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

I am quite educated, thank you very goddamn much, and know exactly what I'm trying to convey. Your point? Is there a point somewhere?

It’s a word that has great power for emphasis. It can be used as every part of speech. Knowing how and when to use profanity appropriately is an art. Not everyone can do that and even on my ears, it can sound vulgar at times. But to make a blanket statement that the use of profanity implies lack of education is complete and utter nonsense.

But then, cursing has never offended me.

In one of the most boring films ever made, fuck and its variations are used 17 times in the first four minutes. If it hadn't been for fuck, there would be almost no dialouge in that movie.

We should take lessons from George Carlin- his use of profanity in his comedy was always well and carefully placed to make a point.

Well, fuck, fuckin' Dick Cheney told Leahy to 'go fuck himself' on the fucking floor of the fucking senate, so I don't know why the fuck we waited so long to add the fuckin' word 'fuck' to our fucking government's fucking vocabulary.

/sarcasm

The MAGAot Voters will not see him saying Fuck, on Fox....... ....but Fox news will broadcast any foul language by Dems for all his Quasi Christian followers.....

But I am glad to see someone get upset, more than the normal "concerned letter" BS......

But we have added 'couch fucker' to the list.

Those who find it offensive should look inward, not at me.

I’ve always been for that.

Calling trump a pedo puto is quite satisfying.

The lawsuit to keep them federally funded is ongoing.

They cut through their soft analysis to state the painfully obvious now.

back on news shows. She doesn't pull punches or F-bombs.

There's just something that makes saying "Fuck" feel so good! It's like when you stump your toe on the coffee table, who really thinks of "oh no" or "ouch". No, I'm way past that and my "Southern Hospitality manners". It's got to be a good ol' FUCK!
I think you got to hit Trump back with what he's giving. He doesn't understand anything else. Oh, hell, he doesn't understand anyway...

But Trump swears like a drunk toddler and our housebroken, obsequious media can't be bothered.

After Mario Savio Liberated Language.
And I’m really disgusted by how these assholes have dragged down my favorite words.

We can excoriate him with powerful statements without emulating his profanity, stooping to his level.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

That worked out real well.

Call a liar a liar, a criminal a criminal, and a traitor a traitor. Do you honestly think saying fucking liar, fucking criminal, and fucking traitor will strengthen our argument among people who don't already agree with us?

It won't. It will exonerate Trump for his use of the F-bomb, and convince many folks on the fence that we are no better.

It may provide some temporary satisfaction in venting our rage, but it will not help one bit in rallying more people to the cause of fighting fascism.

All it will do is lower the national discourse, which is probably what our enemies want.

You have a President who posts photos of himself as if he were Jesus.

Dont you get it? The people you’re talking to only vote Dem when Republicans fuck it all up. Then they vote Republican when it’s all cleaned up by a Democrat . Ask President Gore, President Hillary Clinton , and President Harris how it works.

Not just profanity, but the lies and the jevenile level rhetoric.

The people can't be painted with such a broad brush. Elections are most often won on the margins, motivating souls to the polls and persuading the swing voters. If you think those people don't exist, you are terribly mistaken. I have yet to hear a convincing argument that Democrats in office and pundits on the left dropping F-bombs will help our cause.

Sure, Democratic leaders need to demonstrate more fire in their belly and passion in their speech. They can do that without profanity on their lips, which would turn more people off than on.

But this propensity we have with our mealymouthed sternly worded letters and speechifying is worse than useless. You can’t fight a Trump with politesse.

You have to drop the equivalent of a bunker-buster into the debate.

My point is our leaders can be strong and effective without using profanity, which would turn more people off than on.

engaging in cursing is not emulation of his character any more than drawing a breath is emulation of his biology.

the Latin that I studied 70 yrs. ago, 'fucare' is the Latin term from which we get the word 'fuck' and it means 'to sow seeds',
No matter how we say it, we need to be spreading the 'seeds of democracy' any and everywhere we can.

Still my favorite 'Rocky' movie, when the brawler learned to 'box'





Movie quote:
'OH, THIS is not the 'Rocky' we expected-- --
he's out there looking like Apollo Creed!!!'

Many years ago, I was invited out for lunch to a restaurant now gone, Arthur’s Steakhouse on Walnut Street in Philadelphia. Next to me were three men dressed well, and one of the men was very familiar, but I couldn’t place him. Its not like I was I’m eavesdropping on their conversation but eventually I heard him say “OK I’ll do it, but I can’t have any controversial lines because I’m a well-known pitchman in Philadelphia from the 1940s to today for Acme Markets and cannot cannot afford any controversy.” As soon as he said that, I realized that It was a local personality by the name of Gene Crane, who wound up portraying the mayor of Philadelphia during the Art Museum scene with Clubber Lang verbally assaulting Rocky and Adrienne in Rocky III.

Gene Crane’s son is David Crane who produced some notable tv shows. Gene died I think in his late 90’s.

The following sentence shows off it's amazing linguistic properties:

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

but found MSNBC has been rebranded as MS NOW!

I felt like Rip Van Winkle!