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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan Russia start a 2nd front against the Baltic States?
With what? I see no credible threat that Russia has the ability to move against any of the States. Your thoughts?
CentralMass
(16,992 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Can't happen, conventionally.
surfered
(13,751 posts)cannibalising tank crews for infantry assaults. They still have drones and missiles, but not the manpower for another front.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Instant annihilation. With Ukraine's help.
Chasstev365
(7,929 posts)An attack on any of them by Putin would have all NATO European nations and Canada fighting to defend them Shithead Trump would have the US sit it out.
However, Putin can't even take Ukraine after 3 years of fighting. I doubt he'd try to attack NATO nations.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)can block this option.
Happy Hoosier
(9,558 posts)The Russian Army is essentially destroyed. They manage to keep up pressure on Ukraine with constant human wave attacks, but a modern, well-trained and well-equipped army would grind them to bits.
However, any modern army had better be paying VERY close attention to the drone war in Ukraine. It has changed modern ground war tactics forever.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)From Defense to Offense. Took them 3 years to reinvent themselves as an army. but they have done that. The best tactical, war-proven army in Europe at this moment.
Happy Hoosier
(9,558 posts)I work in the defense aerospace industry, including with our European (former) partners. It's made less news than it servers, but Europe has assisted Ukrain in developing a sophisticated and innovative arms industry, and they have worked closely with Ukraine to develop and modify tactics and strategies. This conflict will be written about for generations.
Many in the US are interested to in partnering with theUkraininas as well. Thecurrent admin is making that difficult Between you, me, and the lampost, a lot of senior defense industry folks are NOT happy with the current admin's approach to international partnerships.
And despite the facing of some of ensenior leadershp of companies trying to make nice, many of them had feared this would happen.
The US risks between several steps behind the innovation curve. Smaller companies like mine are trying to remain agile, but the big lumbering companies will need to find a way to move faster. The deployment cycle is now months, not years or decades.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Moscow and St, Pete;s. Let's see what happens.
Happy Hoosier
(9,558 posts)Ukraine is hurting too, but rather than doubling down, like Moscow, they are actively seeking different approaches.
sarisataka
(22,710 posts)A second front is used to dilute an enemy's strength; it would dilute Russia's efforts.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)I don't expect a direct military assault.....more like an intense war based on heritage, lies, and propaganda,
WarGamer
(18,713 posts)And Ivangorod on the Russian side.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Or maybe used to be.
WarGamer
(18,713 posts)But the other 500 years, they've always been opposing each other.
There have been MASSIVE battles fought near there multiple times... last one in WW2 where most of Narva was destroyed.
mr715
(3,718 posts)WarGamer
(18,713 posts)Efilroft Sul
(4,428 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Why will Russia allow more of their future to die?
The Madcap
(1,944 posts)or so he believes.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
LudwigPastorius
(14,836 posts)However, Putin will annex Belarus in the near future, and continue to try to politically destabilize Moldova.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,331 posts)Sorry Vlad.
he has no reason to do that because Belarus is a puppet state already. Unless they look to truely be ready to move out of the Russian sphere there will be no reason to annex them.
LudwigPastorius
(14,836 posts)Boo1
(394 posts)And references a possible document that is even older. And none of it has happened...
J_William_Ryan
(3,520 posts)That theres no credible threat goes to the fact that NATO is both important and vital.
Absent NATO, the Baltic states could easily be attacked by Putin even in Russias depleted state.
LetMyPeopleVote
(180,625 posts)
CanonRay
(16,200 posts)while Russia is more depleted. They're using 60 year old equipment, plus horses and mules. No time for training anyone. The officer corp is corrupt and depleted. As a conventional military power they are done. They could still cause problems with cyber and political infiltration, but there will be no 2nd front.