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Pope Leo put a Muslim prayer room in the Vatican. People are concerned. (Original Post) Swede Yesterday OP
"without interrupting ... library patrons" .. That kind of courtesy is alien thinking to those "concerned" about this.nt eppur_se_muova Yesterday #1
The complainers probably never go to libraries. yardwork Yesterday #8
In some ways, it might be best that they don't. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #10
Yeah! lastlib Yesterday #13
Isn't it difficult to hyperventilate when your knuckles are dragging on the ground? AZ8theist 18 hrs ago #45
Half of them probably see "Muslim scholars in the Vatican Library" and think it's a Dan-Brown-style plot muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #47
Imagine. . thoughtfulness and consideration. Such "concerning" niyad Yesterday #2
I never know what is worse about these "concerned" assholes, displacedvermoter Yesterday #3
That's It ! dave99 Yesterday #4
Why not both?!?! evolves Yesterday #16
The morons know Allah and God are the same dude, right? stumpysbear Yesterday #5
I highly doubt that they do. Emile Yesterday #7
And I'm sure they think that 4 of the disciples were really named... 3catwoman3 23 hrs ago #26
A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. patphil Yesterday #18
Universal Consciousness. maddiemom 21 hrs ago #35
I call it "Physics" lastlib 19 hrs ago #40
"Allah" Mossfern 23 hrs ago #21
The issues are about prophets and messiahs JoseBalow 23 hrs ago #24
They don't believe swong19104 20 hrs ago #39
Not only that, but Muslim scholars would have wnylib 19 hrs ago #43
historians as well. cab67 19 hrs ago #44
"But we ain't doin' nun a dat book lernin' bullcrap!!!"* AZ8theist 18 hrs ago #46
Very true. wnylib 18 hrs ago #48
Trump has been texting, praise be to Allah. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #6
I really like this guy. Scrivener7 Yesterday #9
I believe it is called eccumentality. That is a sharing of unity and purpose among various flashman13 Yesterday #11
It's that "mentality" part that throws them...... lastlib Yesterday #14
No one was born hating anyone. It's a learned thing very often connected to religious indoctrination. flashman13 Yesterday #15
"You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" niyad 22 hrs ago #30
Hey, lettuce leaves are useful, delicious, and often beautiful. niyad 22 hrs ago #29
Quite true, but..... lastlib 19 hrs ago #42
Sadly, that is not a dificult feat. niyad 17 hrs ago #49
"My god can beat up your god" evolves Yesterday #17
Gotta love Pope Leo! Joinfortmill Yesterday #12
Vatican City is a separate country, not a religious institution FakeNoose Yesterday #19
"How many divisions does the Pope have?" lastlib 14 hrs ago #55
Trump would have banned Islamic scholars from the Vatican Martin Eden Yesterday #20
If his base were majority muslims, he'd pretend to be that JoseBalow 22 hrs ago #27
Maybe FAFO and face-eating leopards will turn the tide Martin Eden 20 hrs ago #37
Wow, respecting another person's religion. Wednesdays 23 hrs ago #22
I wait to see what The Orange Messiah has to say about this. . twodogsbarking 23 hrs ago #23
It is interesting to see... Snackshack 23 hrs ago #25
Good for Pope Leo, he understands how it's supposed to work... wcmagumba 22 hrs ago #28
The morans clutching their pearls are never going to use the Vatican Library ms liberty 22 hrs ago #31
Quite simply for those concerned.. Bluejeans 22 hrs ago #32
Self-proclaimed "Christians" are often profoundly ignorant about Christianity PJMcK 22 hrs ago #33
I can't hear or see the word "concerned" without thinking of Susan Collins ;-) flor-de-jasmim 21 hrs ago #34
Easy way to weed out the extreme fundamentalists who are ruining everything with their hypocritical insanity Blue Owl 21 hrs ago #36
I was at the Vatican in 2018 and saw many Muslim men on the grounds who frequented that library kimbutgar 20 hrs ago #38
Yet another flaw for the Pope, according to Trump Doctrine. Passages 19 hrs ago #41
"But if they're prayin in a special room, how can we scream.... 70sEraVet 17 hrs ago #50
Basic (and no-cost) politeness to guests is an alien concept to RWers/MAGAts RockRaven 17 hrs ago #51
If you've never seen it IbogaProject 15 hrs ago #52
Decency, humanity, good will, civility... debsy 15 hrs ago #53
Perfectly normal... WarGamer 14 hrs ago #54
"NEVER IN THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL TRUMP LIBRARY! NO ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #56
i love your comment "I know who the "concerned people" voted for." - it's perfect! nt orleans 12 hrs ago #57

eppur_se_muova

(42,098 posts)
1. "without interrupting ... library patrons" .. That kind of courtesy is alien thinking to those "concerned" about this.nt
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:46 AM
Yesterday

yardwork

(69,463 posts)
8. The complainers probably never go to libraries.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

They haven't ever been in a public library. They think it's a den of satanic communists forcing them to watch drag queens read gay porn to children.

They hyperventilate when they drive past their town's library.

eppur_se_muova

(42,098 posts)
10. In some ways, it might be best that they don't.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:12 AM
Yesterday
Wouldn't want them to interfere in our drag queen gay porn children's hour ! Satanic communists have some rights, too, you know !

AZ8theist

(7,452 posts)
45. Isn't it difficult to hyperventilate when your knuckles are dragging on the ground?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:33 PM
18 hrs ago

Just wondering....

muriel_volestrangler

(106,350 posts)
47. Half of them probably see "Muslim scholars in the Vatican Library" and think it's a Dan-Brown-style plot
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:49 PM
18 hrs ago

to create One World Religion worshipping Greta Thunberg.

displacedvermoter

(4,720 posts)
3. I never know what is worse about these "concerned" assholes,
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:26 AM
Yesterday

that they are ignorant about everything, or that even when they learn about something, they end up getting angry because facts piss them off?

stumpysbear

(280 posts)
5. The morons know Allah and God are the same dude, right?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:50 AM
Yesterday

At least the catechism of the Catholic Church says so.

3catwoman3

(29,571 posts)
26. And I'm sure they think that 4 of the disciples were really named...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:18 PM
23 hrs ago

...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

patphil

(9,132 posts)
18. A Rose by any other name is still a Rose.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:48 AM
Yesterday

Every culture has it's own name for God.
We're always look for ways to name the creative force that goes far beyond that which can be contained in a name.
Words are simply inadequate.
The Native Americans refer to the "Great Spirit". That's about as good a name as any.

lastlib

(28,387 posts)
40. I call it "Physics"
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:43 PM
19 hrs ago

What others ascribe to a deity, it's usually something the physical world does by virtue of physics. YMMV.

swong19104

(639 posts)
39. They don't believe
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:16 PM
20 hrs ago

that “God”, “Gott”, “Dios”, “Dieu” and “Deus” are the same god.

wnylib

(26,222 posts)
43. Not only that, but Muslim scholars would have
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:53 PM
19 hrs ago

a religious reason for doing research in a Christian library. In Islam, Jesus is a highly regarded prophet.

cab67

(3,795 posts)
44. historians as well.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:58 PM
19 hrs ago

Anyone studying the Crusades, for example, would want to look at documents archived at the Vatican dating back to the period.

AZ8theist

(7,452 posts)
46. "But we ain't doin' nun a dat book lernin' bullcrap!!!"*
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:38 PM
18 hrs ago

* Actual quote from MAGAT land

flashman13

(2,452 posts)
11. I believe it is called eccumentality. That is a sharing of unity and purpose among various
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:18 AM
Yesterday

churches and religions. It is the opposite of my god is bigger, better, badder, and realer than your god.

lastlib

(28,387 posts)
14. It's that "mentality" part that throws them......
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:22 AM
Yesterday

Since they have the alpha waves of a lettuce leaf, they can't handle facts that go against what's already wired in.

flashman13

(2,452 posts)
15. No one was born hating anyone. It's a learned thing very often connected to religious indoctrination.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

lastlib

(28,387 posts)
42. Quite true, but.....
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:47 PM
19 hrs ago

I've never known one to integrate a transcendental fuction, or calculate a thermodynamic field tensor. But they have, I'm sure, outsmarted a few tRumpers in their lives.

evolves

(5,852 posts)
17. "My god can beat up your god"
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

is only a tiny intellectual step away from “My dad can beat up your dad”

These people are emotional and intellectual children.

FakeNoose

(41,933 posts)
19. Vatican City is a separate country, not a religious institution
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

Vatican City makes its own laws, collects its own taxes, maintains its own police department, etc. Yes it is wholly within the country of Italy, and also within the city of Rome. Once you cross the border of Vatican City, (it's a gate really) you are in a separate country.

If Italy suddenly outlawed Muslim worship (not gonna happen, but IF...) then it doesn't affect Vatican City at all. They make their own laws. If the Vatican wants to maintain a Muslim place of worship, they can do it.

Martin Eden

(15,713 posts)
20. Trump would have banned Islamic scholars from the Vatican
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

Petty, vindictive, ignorant, racist, President of the United States of America.

JoseBalow

(9,571 posts)
27. If his base were majority muslims, he'd pretend to be that
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:24 PM
22 hrs ago

He only cares about what he can get out of people for his own benefit; drumpf only believes in himself.

Martin Eden

(15,713 posts)
37. Maybe FAFO and face-eating leopards will turn the tide
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:49 PM
20 hrs ago

After a helluva lotta damage is done.

Snackshack

(2,591 posts)
25. It is interesting to see...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:15 PM
23 hrs ago

The dichotomy corporation / elite have created between a global economy and tribalism. Since the 90's corporations / captains of industry have pushed for a global economy without understanding the ripple effects that the various standards of living from across the world would bring with it.

wcmagumba

(6,379 posts)
28. Good for Pope Leo, he understands how it's supposed to work...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:43 PM
22 hrs ago

Add in a Buddhist prayer room, a Hindi prayer room, a Native American prayer room and others as far as I'm concerned, it's all good...

ms liberty

(11,284 posts)
31. The morans clutching their pearls are never going to use the Vatican Library
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:08 PM
22 hrs ago

At most they would be amongst the crowd of loud, easily identifiable American yahoos milling about outside.
It's really none of their business.

PJMcK

(25,060 posts)
33. Self-proclaimed "Christians" are often profoundly ignorant about Christianity
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:19 PM
22 hrs ago

I don't think I need to write anything more.

Blue Owl

(59,296 posts)
36. Easy way to weed out the extreme fundamentalists who are ruining everything with their hypocritical insanity
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:18 PM
21 hrs ago

kimbutgar

(27,351 posts)
38. I was at the Vatican in 2018 and saw many Muslim men on the grounds who frequented that library
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:52 PM
20 hrs ago

This is not new.

Passages

(4,267 posts)
41. Yet another flaw for the Pope, according to Trump Doctrine.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:46 PM
19 hrs ago

Must be biogted at all times.

70sEraVet

(5,530 posts)
50. "But if they're prayin in a special room, how can we scream....
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:05 PM
17 hrs ago

MERRY CHRISTMAS!! at them?! Trump says we can do that to anybody, now, whether they like it or not!"

RockRaven

(19,537 posts)
51. Basic (and no-cost) politeness to guests is an alien concept to RWers/MAGAts
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:15 PM
17 hrs ago

They literally cannot imagine behaving so themselves. It is wild.

IbogaProject

(5,972 posts)
52. If you've never seen it
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 08:54 PM
15 hrs ago

It is cool to see. They kiss the ground (prayer rug), sing quietly. I've seen it in the basement of my former building that was shared by a resturant. It is also a very scholarly culture, beyond their wealthy and western backed regressives.

debsy

(987 posts)
53. Decency, humanity, good will, civility...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 08:57 PM
15 hrs ago

Everything MAGA dipshits know nothing about.

WarGamer

(18,713 posts)
54. Perfectly normal...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:34 PM
14 hrs ago

And as they claim... praying to the same god so what's the big deal??

ColoringFool

(805 posts)
56. "NEVER IN THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL TRUMP LIBRARY! NO
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:42 PM
12 hrs ago

INFIDELS ALLOWED to assault our ears 10 times a day, maybe more!

Not in the ground-level stores or the replica of Trump Force One or the upper-floor condos with the world's best views to my spect...septic....spackle...big, beautiful BALLROOM! Gold like nobody's ever seen! They call me King Midas, you know that, right?

GOD BLESS AMERICA!"


orleans

(37,027 posts)
57. i love your comment "I know who the "concerned people" voted for." - it's perfect! nt
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:20 AM
12 hrs ago
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